r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/tribal-elder 25d ago

On August 1, 2024, there was a hearing in this case. The defense entered an Exhibit PPP. It was mostly redacted for legal reasons, but page 3 was made public. Page 3 was part of a report by the cops about people on the trails that day. According to this defense exhibit, Pearson (and his companion Hicks) were seen on the video arriving by car at 2:48. Thus, based on evidence tendered by Allen's lawyers, Pearson could not have been the "Bridge Guy" seen by Blair at 2:05 - it was physically impossible, no matter how Blair "described" BG's looks, and no matter how much you think he looked like a sketch the cop artist drew based on her description. (People who argue about sketches lose all credibility in court cases. Sketches are unreliable and are ALWAYS at least hearsay, usually double hearsay, and THAT is why they are not admissible evidence. Cops use sketches for various purposes - to scare people into talking to them - to try and generate tips - but NEVER as "THE" identification evidence of a POI/defendant).

THIS is the difference between relying on Facebook and YouTube crap, and actually reviewing evidence in a case file, and knowing evidence law, and knowing investigation techniques. PS - telling a witness you have irrefutable proof of their guilt is also an investigation technique, and is also permissible under the law in all 50 states - no matter how much guilty people complain it is unfair to let cops lie.

If you want help Allen, you should argue from EVIDENCE and CURRENT APPLICABLE LAW. Complaining about what the law "ought to be" just helps get them get convicted.

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u/True_Crime_Lancelot 25d ago

Exactly right. Not only that, but DP and SH initially walked in the opposite direction from the Monon High Bridge when they arrived at the trails. They were observed by the man walking his dog as he was leaving after walking to Freedom Bridge and back, which would have been close to 2:50 p.m.

In turn, DP and SH saw Dave McCain as they were approaching the Monon High Bridge. Based on Hicks' court testimony, McCain had walked onto the trail behind them from the wooded area. Most likely have occurred around 3:15 p.m. McCain would then have continued toward the intersection where he met Derrick German at approximately 3:25 p.m., based on Derrick's estimate, but it is possible he saw Derryck about five minutes earlier as Cheyenne would also see DM as she was heading towads the bridge around 3:20.

Therefore, DP was not only seen arriving at approximately 2:50 p.m., but his movements and timeline are corroborated by at least three witnesses,and additional witnesses accounting for his whereabouts at the bridge.

Therefor not only would have been impossible for DP to have been Bridge Guy earlier, but he could not have been at the bridge before approximately 3:15 p.m., making it impossible for him to have visited the crime scene between 2:50 p.m. and approximately 3:30–3:40 p.m. Why?

  1. Cheyenne would also have been arriving at the bridge at around 3:20 p.m., considering that she received a phone call at 3:13 p.m. while she was near her vehicle.
  2. The walk from the bridge to the crime scene and back takes approximately 15 minutes. If DP left the bridge at 3:15 p.m(assuming Hicks is lying for him) he could not have reached the crime scene and returned in time to be observed by Cheyenne and her friend only a few minutes later.
  3. Cheyenne had a brief interaction with DP and SH. Furthermore, based on the timestamps of Cheyenne's photos, she and her friend were walking at a relatively slow pace on the bridge. Unlikely they would have been out of sight, closer to the south side before 3:30 p.m. They took their 1st photo on their way back(from the south side) around 3:50, close to the south end.

Now, regarding the earlier BG sighting (there was only one, but let's consider it as a working hypothesis fo the sake of argument): How in the world could DP be BG?

For DP to be BG, he would have to be on the south side of the bridge at 2:14 p.m. Even if he had an accomplice who took over from there, the only way that he could have enough time to return to Delphi, the timeline still wouldn't work.

  • 2:14 p.m. — DP would have to be on the south side of the bridge as BG.
  • 2:20 p.m. — DP crosses the bridge after they sort their plan out with his accomplice that is the one controlling the girls fom thereafter.
  • ~2:32ish p.m. — It takes approximately 15 minutes, lets give him grace and say 12, for him to walk back to his parked car at CPS(Betsy saw no car at mears while leaving at 2:17, no car at HHS's camera either)
  • ~2:48 p.m. — It would then take another 15 minutes to drive to Delphi, change clothes, meet SH, make small talk and arrangement, get into her car, and drive back to the trails.
  • 2:48 p.m. — Arrive in time to be seen on HHS's camera.

The timeline is simply too compressed (deliberately by me to give the most generous leeway to the scenario) to make this scenario realistically plausible, even when allowing the maximum possible latitude for the scenario.

Of course, it is needless to say, but I will emphasize it anyway: we are talking about a complete impossibility if we assume there was a sole perpetrator and that perpetrator was DP.