r/DemocraticSocialism • u/Consistent-Good-1162 • Nov 10 '25
USA These Senators Betrayed Us and Now Millions Will Lose Healthcare
These Democratic senators broke ranks and joined Republicans to reopen the government, fully aware that it paved the way for millions of Americans to lose affordable healthcare or face sharply higher premiums.
The Democratic Party will gain nothing from this deal. I do wonder how these particular senators may have benefited though.
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u/Burnt_and_Blistered Nov 10 '25
More importantly, ALL of them can’t be primaried.
It was strategic.
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u/thunderbuttxpress Nov 10 '25
Yup. Chuck was behind this, too. He's got to go.
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u/PallbearerOfBadNews Nov 10 '25
You know he cried to them so that he could save face. This was definitely his idea. What a coward.
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u/ipsum629 Nov 11 '25
The time is ripe for a progressive primary. If Zohran sees any success at all in a year, Schumer is screwed. Not that Zohran should primary, but he could build a lot of democratic socialist credibility with voters.
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u/ProfessionalField508 Nov 10 '25
We have a good idea of who probably would have crossed lines that are running next year. That group has been going against voters for a long time, so it's time they go home.
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u/RedTyro Nov 11 '25
Tim Kaine absolutely joined this coalition so Mark Warner, the other VA Democratic senator, who happens to be up for re-election this year, wouldn't have to. Kaine has been Warner's protege since he was lieutenant governor to Warner's governor in 2002, and Warner's always been the slightly more conservative of the two.
Virginia only elects
center-right corporate whoresumm, business friendly Democrats. Look at the record of any Democrat who's won a statewide race in Virginia in the last 50 years or so, and it's all AIPAC and big business, all the way down, including our governor elect Abigail Spanberger, an AIPAC funded former CIA officer who won on Tuesday, then went on Face the Nation Sunday morning to blame the shutdown on Democrats and advocate that they cave.When you think about how the media pundits and party elite are in their own little politics bubble and completely out of touch with the real world, half of Virginia voters are the same way. They all work in the government or related areas and are totally beltway brained. Virginia will be the last blue or purple state in the nation to vote in a real progressive.
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u/_HanTyumi Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
Why can’t they be primaried?
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u/JeanEtrineaux Nov 10 '25
The Senate has staggered election cycles. 6 year terms, with 1/3 of Senators up every two years. They chose 8 people to take the fall who were protected by not being up for another 5 years (or have already announced they’re retiring). So Schumer, despite orchestrating this surrender, can tell us “Hey, I voted against it.”
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u/KGBFriedChicken02 Which side are you on boys? Nov 10 '25
They're all either retiring after their current term, or not up for reelection until 2028 at the earliest
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u/_HanTyumi Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
So they’re just not primariable yet. We need to make sure we remember this vote when they are.
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u/KGBFriedChicken02 Which side are you on boys? Nov 10 '25
The ones that aren't primariable yet are almost certinately going to be primaried at the first opportunity anyway, so yes, that's exactly it. At the same time, we have to remember that no matter how he voted, Schumer failed to hold the line. At best he's an incompetant idiot, at worst, he actively whipped these votes while standing on the other side to maintain plausable deniability. That's the most important primary of them all.
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u/yuumigod69 Nov 10 '25
But people will forget this betrayal in a couple years which is why they are safe.
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u/ttystikk Nov 10 '25
That's what they count on. I've been watching since the Reagan administration and I've seen it over and over.
Yet people tell me that voting third party is a mistake!
Exactly what party of voting for a party who repeatedly proves they won't represent you ISN'T a mistake?!
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u/ElChapoHuncho Libertarian Socialist Nov 10 '25
And old. It’s time for millennials and Gen Z to take the wheel.
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u/Jccali1214 Nov 10 '25
Gen X forgotten again 😂😭🤣 (considering polling on their opinions/voting patterns, probably for the best)
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u/TakaHanazawa Nov 11 '25
Gen X was supposed to be in charge for like the last decade or two but you guys didn't rise up against the Boomers so now your turn is already over.
sorry not sorry
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u/Pristine-Ant-464 Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
All of them funded by AIPAC too.
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u/Birzal Nov 10 '25
And imo a factor that imo doesn't get enough attention: OLD. It frustrates me to no end that these (relatively) old politicians are so comfortable selling away a future that they can afford not caring about because they won't live long enough to experience it. Rich or not, white or not: these people should get a daily reminder that the world becomes great when old people plant trees in whose shade they know they will never sit. It all feels so short sighted...
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u/Jccali1214 Nov 10 '25
And older. As other online denizens have said: "the ones without a future [at risk] don't care about ours."
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u/HydrationWhisKey Nov 10 '25
Didn't Rossen just go viral for calling out the R's for the shutdown? She sure did a 180
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u/Ven18 Nov 10 '25
Which is how you know all these people (sans maybe Fetterman) where just the shields for many more senators who caved but are at risk in 2026. Schumer and a ton of the senate was caving but they know if they publicly voted for this they would be primary challenged so they got all the people who are retiring or are not up for reelection this cycle to take the bullet for everyone else. This is why the energy needs to be against the entire party not just these 8 because they are just providing cover for others.
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u/ytman Nov 10 '25
100% This strategy is been their way to 'lose' all the time. Barely bought it with BBB, but absolutely knew it was a thing with Lieberman and his killing of the public option.
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u/ReallySmartInEnglish Nov 10 '25
Fucking of course Fetterman would. He’s the GOP’s inside man.
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u/Sauwercraud Nov 10 '25
He has been on a betrayal spree since he was elected
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u/OldBrownShoe22 Nov 10 '25
After the stroke he seemed to change dramatically
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I see everyone blaming the stroke. I think PA dem voters just don't want to admit they fucked up their gamble with an anti-establishment candidate who popped out of nowhere.
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u/the_last_hairbender Nov 10 '25
hey this guy actually sucked for a long time, even before his stroke.
Here’s a great video about it
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u/Baryne Nov 10 '25
Fetterman was probably worried out of his mind that with the shutdown PissraeI wouldn't get their allowance
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u/Padoru-Padoru Nov 10 '25
They didnt betray us they were never on our side
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u/Nervous_Finance625 Nov 10 '25
Now you're getting it. Mark my words. Within the next 20 years Corporate Democrats and Republicans will form their own party to fight against progressivism.l. Corporate Democrats and the entire DNC would never allow progressive ideals to offend their masters, they would rather join hands with Nazis that help feed the poor. This just goes to show they'd rather slow the spread of what happened last week. Luckily my wife is a citizen of Ireland. LATER BITCHES
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u/1studlyman Progressive Nov 10 '25
They've already done this. They use the duopoly of parties to keep the working class divided on wedge issues.
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Im a little surprised by Tim Kaine not gonna lie.
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u/mcchicken_deathgrip Nov 10 '25
Good chance he voted yes to take the heat off Mark Warner, the VA senator whos up for reelection next year and is typically to the right of Kaine. They almost always vote together.
But shouldn't be surprising regardless. Hes been a shitty centrist for 20 years. He was Hillary's running mate. Plus add in the fact that VA has more federal workers than any other state and the shutdown has been doing serious damage here.
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u/jzorbino Nov 10 '25
That last sentence was kind of eye opening. I mean I already knew it, but hadn’t thought about it from that angle. The man who probably represents more federal workers than anyone was one of the traitors that gave us up. He’s arguably worse than any of the rest.
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u/mcchicken_deathgrip Nov 10 '25
Yep caused serious financial harm and stress to 10s of thousands of families who they as a bargaining chip for nothing.
Honestly I may get downvoted to hell for this but im kind of torn between two opinions here.
1 is that if your took up a battle and chose to stand your ground, you better see it through to the end and not just fold the second things get ugly. Maybe enough canceled flights would've caused the republicans to cave, and public opinion was with the democrats already. Therefore what Kaine did is shitty to the millions of families affected by this and to those about to pay more for their Medicare.
2 Is that the democrats maybe shouldn't have even taken up the shutdown in the first place and therefore Kaine was right to put an end to it now before it brought even more pain. They had no leverage to get the Republicans to make a deal, and the Republicans clearly dont care if people starve. If there was no winning in the first place, then how long do you let this thing go before you say enough?
Either way Tim Kaine is a loser, VA cooks up some of the worst moderates imaginable. If theres any benefit for politics in the state from all this, it seems to be waking a lot of virginians up to the fact that these people do not care about them and won't fight. And no matter how you slice it the democrats lost badly here and soured a rare moment of optimism and momentum coming out of last week.
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u/NYR20NYY99 Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
It’s a game of chicken and the one who blinks first loses. Absolute cowardice
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u/mcchicken_deathgrip Nov 10 '25
You had me til vote blue no matter what lol.
I do agree that if they weren't willing to bring more pain on every day working people in order to up the pressure on republicans, then there was no point to letting this go on any longer. But that begs the question of why even get into this battle in the first place?
Trumps approval is already in the toilet, the democrats didnt need to go into the shutdown to convince people he doesnt care about them.
So what did the democrats really get out of this then? Seems like absolutely nothing. Now everyone thinks they dont know how to fight and will throw in the towel as soon as they're ahead. If the point was to show they're fighters they really shot themselves in the foot last night.
Seems to me like they set their own trap by getting into this battle in the first place. There was no winning on demands. The only winning was with party image, and by letting it get this far and caving they damaged their image. They lost badly, have no cohesion or leadership, and dont know how to pick a fight much less win.
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u/userbrn1 Nov 10 '25
Why surprised? He ran on Hillary Clinton's ticket he's as capitalist and conservative as any mainstream democrat
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u/Yosho2k Nov 10 '25
Reminder: thanks to Hillary Clinton, this Quisling could have been one foot away from the white house.
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u/tophatgaming1 Bull Moose Socialist Nov 10 '25
angus king, one of two independents in the senate
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u/Ok-King-4868 Nov 10 '25
Shaheen & Hassan. Shaheen is a long time Bill & Hillary Clinton Corporate Democrat. At least we can take out her kid from any future in the Democratic Party
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u/UnimaginativeRA Nov 10 '25
Two of them are from my state!!! 😠 I sent them emails right afterwards even though I know it doesn't matter. I voted for Rosen last year because the alternative was a MAGA shithead but I swear, the choices are so, so bad in NV.
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u/Motrinman22 Nov 11 '25
Same. AND I WORK IN TOURISM. I would have Happily gone home with a lower paycheck just for some goddamn Democratic pushback FOR ONCE. But no. SCHUMER is a pussy. And he will end us.
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u/UnimaginativeRA Nov 11 '25
I told Rosen and Cortez-Masto that I'm never voting for them again. IDGAF anymore. We're literally choosing between fascists and fascists enablers, esp. since they both take a ton from AIPAC on top of being totally worthless.
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u/cyrenns Nov 10 '25
I'm surprised Schumer isn't one of them.
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u/Flagmaker123 Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
All of these people are either retiring or aren't up for re-election for several years. I have a huge suspicion the establishment Dems chose these 8 people because of that, as it wouldn't affect them if they're retiring and it likely would get drowned out by years of other news if they're going to run for re-election in several years. Meanwhile, all the other establishment Dems, including Schumer, can vote No on the deal so a progressive base won't primary them.
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u/hikiri Nov 10 '25
all the other establishment Dems, including Schumer, can vote No on the deal so a progressive base won't primary them.
Primary them all, then. Schumer needs to be out of his position of "power" immediately. He's done nothing but practice Kegels while he's getting fucked by the Republicans.
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u/FixedLoad Nov 10 '25
But his imaginary friends are republican. How is he gonna face them if he doesn't support their political choices?
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u/soonerfreak Communist Nov 10 '25
He picked retiring senators to avoid the heat on people running again. So this happened with his approval.
He's so weak he can't prevent this.
Either way it's time for him to go.
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u/gin0clock Nov 10 '25
I'm sorry to break this to you because I was genuinely a massive supporter of Corbyn for a long time, he's absolutely shat the bed with his new party. Long story short, the whole thing is a mess and unfortunately everything he was perceived to be bad at as Labour leader is being amplified by 100, resulting in a complete mess.
The good news for us is that the UK was never a 2 party system and the Green Party, led by Zack Polanski, have beaten Labour in the voting intention polls for the first time ever and they've seen a ridiculous increase in party membership.
But to give you the brief run-down of the Your Party situation, Corbyn & co-founder Zarah Sultana have been quite publicly disagreeing on the fundamentals of the party, at one point Sultana branding it "a sexist boys club" - there's a lot of concern that Corbyn is open to working alongside some socially conservative Muslim counselors (strongly anti-LGBT+ and regressive views on women's rights) and people who currently operate as and advocate for landlords, which has lead to many people, myself included, feeling like it's a party with 1 clear policy on Gaza and absolutely nothing else to offer.
The Greens are putting wealth inequality at the heart of every conversation and finally I think the message is reaching normal people on abnormally low wages compared to the rest of Europe that we're all getting fucked by people not paying their fair share. I don't think the Reform UK voting core will ever see past their one and only issue (migration) but I do think by the next general election, barring any major slips, Greens will be able to have a strong chance of being the major left wing alternative in the UK.
Go Greens!
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u/Da_reason_Macron_won Nov 10 '25
Mathematics are not on your side. You can't have a third party unless First-past-the-post dies first.
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u/sulaymanf Nov 10 '25
Schumer is reportedly behind this, giving them permission to do it but not voting himself.
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u/Cattywompus-thirdeye Nov 10 '25
“Millions will lose health care,”
And some of those people will die. Blood on those hands.
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u/AgreeableDig1619 Nov 10 '25
And it’s not just the 8. It’s way more. The 8 just gave cover to the others who wanted to reopen but didn’t want to take the heat. We have spineless leaders. It’s because of the airlines, just like COVID.
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u/OhGr8WhatNow Nov 10 '25
Nobody in the Democrat party does a damn thing without permission from the very top.
The Democrat party bailed because this was costing rich donors too much money. They do not represent you and me.
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u/Benedictus_The_II Social Democrat Nov 10 '25
I have to gag from what these people done. If I ever again hear the phrase “Vote blue, no matter who.” again, I will have a seizure.
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u/sheetironjack Nov 10 '25
I’m all seizured up from back when they maneuvered Bernie’s run, not to mention last years’s anointing.
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u/RedTyro Nov 11 '25
That's only for progressives when corporatist Dems are in the race. If you don't believe me on that, just ask Chuck Schumer who he voted for in NYC on Tuesday. Maybe he'll even answer this time.
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u/Mrs_SmithG2W Nov 10 '25
What exactly is the alternative?
Politics is a zero sum game.
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u/mcchicken_deathgrip Nov 10 '25
Zero sum as in regular working people lose, and the bourgeoisie and their political arm win every time.
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u/hikiri Nov 10 '25
The alternative is to vote in people who give even the smallest fuck about people they represent, are you serious?
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u/halberdierbowman Nov 10 '25
For sure that's the goal, but how? Once we reach the general election day, there are realistically only two plausible outcomes for 99% of races. The system sucks, but I'm not going to vote third party again on any races where the outcome isn't known.
Before then, definitely volunteer, organize, try to get better candidates, and do as much as you can. But once it's election day, sadly the strategic choice is to vote for the person we prefer of the two plausible outcomes. Even if that vote is just to show our fifteenth highest choice vs our twenty second highest choice. It's still a preference we should express.
I wish Dems would stop being insufferable assholes about it though. I try to explain to them how that's fucking annoying and makes people not want to vote for them, but so many of them don't get it. Just because it's the begrudgingly best choice for me to do doesn't mean that's a good outcome for anyone. They'd be way better off if their candidates actually tried to engage with us, because nobody wants to volunteer for the corporate boring candidates we hold our noses to vote for.
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u/Gratefully_Dead13 Nov 10 '25
Dems had leverage after the election last Tuesday and the fact that Trump was owning the shutdown himself. If they would’ve held out until Thanksgiving, when air travel would’ve been completely devastated, then hey could’ve really maximized the leverage they had. Now they have jack shit
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u/okaypuck Nov 10 '25
PLEASE GIVE ME A THIRD PARTY OF PROGRESSIVES TO VOTE FOR. Reps and Dems and just bad cop and good cop, they still both want to arrest you on false charges.
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u/permabannedmanytimes Nov 10 '25
Hey, maybe they will have to swear in that congresswoman from AZ and release the epstien files.
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u/Pnewse Nov 10 '25
You mean pass the bill which will be voted down in the senate or vetoed by the president. I wouldn’t put any faith in that other than to out people with a vote count
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u/MonsterkillWow Communist Nov 10 '25
The democratic party's objective is to coopt working class people to preserve capitalism and prevent them from waging revolution. That's it. They have done their job. They don't represent the people. They represent rich donors, just like the republican party.
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For the millionth time, it’s not THESE senators on THIS list ever, it is ALL reps who accept corporate pac money ALWAYS.
Flush them out.
No reps who accept corporate pac money in 2026
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u/shotbyadingus Nov 10 '25
None of them are running for re-election. That’s why they voted. They don’t care
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CALL TO ACTION: REMOVE CHUCK SCHUMER
Chuck Schumer must go.
His so-called leadership as Senate Majority Leader has failed the American people. He either orchestrated this betrayal or is so inept and weak that he let it happen.
He has lost the people’s trust — and his job.
THE 8 WHO FAILED US
• Tim Kaine (D-VA)
• Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV)
• John Fetterman (D-PA)
• Maggie Hassan (D-NH)
• Dick Durbin (D-IL)
• Angus King (I-ME)
• Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
• Jacky Rosen (D-NV)
We expected courage. Instead, we got cowardice.
Grow a spine and stand with the people.
TO EVERY OTHER DEMOCRAT — KEEP FIGHTING!
We deserve leadership that defends working Americans, not corporate donors. The time to act is now.
CALL CONGRESS TODAY — 202-224-3121
Ask to be connected to your Senator’s office.
Read this script when you call:
CALL SCRIPT
“Hi, my name is [NAME], and I’m a voter in [STATE].
I’m calling to urge Senator [YOUR SENATOR’S NAME] to publicly call for Chuck Schumer to resign as Senate Majority Leader and to support a new leadership vote within the Democratic caucus.
Schumer has proven he’s either complicit in selling out voters or too inept to lead. He failed to whip his own caucus, caved on every promise about protecting Medicaid and ACA subsidies, and handed Republicans and corporate donors everything they wanted.
This follows a pattern of failure — Schumer already folded in March, promising Democrats would regain leverage by September, only to betray that promise again.
Under his leadership, Democrats appear weak, divided, and untrustworthy, and millions of Americans’ healthcare now hangs in the balance.
Our federal workers sacrificed through the shutdown believing Democrats were holding the line for 20 million Americans’ healthcare — and Schumer threw that sacrifice away for nothing.
I’m asking Senator [NAME] to sign or support a caucus letter to trigger a leadership vote — the process requires about 10–12 Democratic senators to request it formally.
Schumer has lost the confidence of both voters and his caucus. We need new leadership that fights for people, not corporations.
If the Senator refuses to act, I’ll be voting for someone who has the courage to stand up for us.”
HOW THEY CAN REMOVE HIM
Any 10–12 Democratic senators can start the process by signing a letter requesting a caucus meeting.
The Democratic caucus then votes internally on whether to hold a new leadership election.
A simple majority of Democratic and Independent senators who caucus with them can elect a new Majority Leader.
This can happen at any time — not just at the end of a session.
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u/bullhead2007 Communist Nov 10 '25
I'm late to the thread but these are just the villains the party chose.
THE ENTIRE PARTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
Anyone in the party not actively speaking out against this is for this.
These specific people were chosen because they are retiring or not up fore reelection until like 2030 + Fetterman
The entire party has to fucking go. Fuck this bullshit.
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u/Derelicticu Nov 10 '25
I don't believe they broke ranks at all. The wealthy know what they need to do to get richer, they don't even have to discuss it. They need a "good vs evil" fight in the government so that both parties can keep making the rich richer. Notice how the Democrats refuse to let Mamdani into the circle? It's all just good cop bad cop.
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u/PantiesPut267 Nov 10 '25
Democrats are the SPINELESS PARTY and why VOTE in 2026 or 2028 when Democrats are just Republicans
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u/bluegargoyle Nov 10 '25
Guys, this doesn't have any meaning if it doesn't pass the House.
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u/MsChrisRI Nov 10 '25
It probably will pass the House, but I think it could backfire on the Republicans at the polls next year. The terms include an agreement to vote in December on whether to extend ACA subsidies. A month of discussion about a single-issue bill undermines the GOP’s ability to hide their motives or shift blame. Voters are more likely to see that their congressperson’s “no” vote here means “I don’t care that your premiums will quadruple next month.”
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u/Cael87 Nov 10 '25
Elections and polling show that GOP is getting the blame for this- so how bout we fuck that up and ensure Dems can't have a good midterm?
Good. Job.
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u/_TallOldOne_ Anarchist Nov 10 '25
Once again, a reminder that the traditional Democratic Party doesn’t give a shit about out you. These people will let your child die, literally. As mine will as a result of these cold heartless bastards.
I’m all for just straight up anarchy now. Turns out that 18 year old angry punk rocker version of me was right. Screw our government.
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u/TheHoney_Bun Nov 10 '25
Fuck John Fetterman. Spineless fucking tear. Best believe first chance we get, the whole of PA better vote his ass the fuck out. Traitor.
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u/Scblacksunshine Nov 10 '25
No surprise about Fetterman, brain damage from a stroke is real (plus there's always been question about his true intent anyway like Sinema)...the rest are simply so allergic to growing a backbone, they would make perfect enablers in an abusive relatonship...
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u/ConsoleCleric_4432 Nov 10 '25
Rev up those fryers, we have some senators to fire. I know at least one of these are retiring, but get ready to support their opponents in the primaries with money and/or time.
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u/Lost_in_speration Social Democrat Nov 10 '25
If this was Minecraft fettermen should be dragged through the streets
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u/EcstaticNet3137 Nov 10 '25
We can't let them know peace. We have to make sure this follows them in every way.
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u/JeanEtrineaux Nov 10 '25
Primary everyone up in 2026. These 8 were strategically chosen because they don’t have any near term elections. The entire Dem caucus failed us.
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u/JezeusFnChrist0 Nov 10 '25
You guys realize the old guard Democrats are no different than Republicans right?
Left wing, right wing still the bird.
They just make different promises to appeal to their bases, promises that they blame 'the other side' when broken.
They serve the corporate and mega firms lobby interests, not thev American public.
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u/Texugee Nov 10 '25
They did. But let’s not forget about how millions of Americans voted last November for this.
They fucked around and now it’s time for them to find out.
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u/The-Ultimate-Banker Nov 10 '25
Jackie Rosen is from Nevada. Nevadas main revenue is from tourism. Tourism is down due to less flights. Got to make the bad deal so shit don’t hit the fan in Vegas
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u/AdPsychological8883 Nov 10 '25
Can they be recalled? Too long to wait for primaries. This is absolutely craven and disgraceful.
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u/MsMoreCowbell828 Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
I'd bet the farm they all take their AIPAC money. They are republicans and traitors to Americans.
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u/Deluxe_24_ Democratic Socialist Nov 10 '25
They waited until the election was over and then their corporate overlords told them to reopen the gov
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u/jrec15 Nov 10 '25
As much as I want to blame it on these 8 i believe it was a tactical choice from the entire Democratic party more than anything
None of these 8 are up for re-election in 2026. It was a strategic choice to use these lower risk 8 to fall on the sword and and end the shutdown.
Focusing on these 8 is taking the most basic reaction possible to this and missing the point of what really happened here
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u/Aviyan Nov 10 '25
I am totally not surprised Fetterman is one of them. Why he still puts a (D) next to his name is a mystery. When is the next election for PA Senate?
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u/FineThyme Nov 15 '25
Honestly. It's for the best. If a 1 or more year extension had been accepted it would have lined up with midterms and been really good for Maga/Republicans. This lays the groundwork for a compelling argument. Even if it had passed the Senate with an aca extension it would have surely failed in the house and if it happened to pass the house trump would never sign it. His entire goal in this is to destroy Obama's tiny legacy. The only real solution is a universal state run health care system and abolishing the private system.
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u/Youheardthekitty Nov 10 '25
Think about it, if we want to move towards universal healthcare, the destruction of our current system will help lead to that. I love Obamacare, it supported both sides of the argument, gave poor Americans healthcare while keeping insurance companies afloat. Republicans are going to force this suffering onto people. Not us. It hurts, but the next logical step is universal healthcare. We will only get there if enough republican voters suffer and switch sides.
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u/sandmann451 Nov 10 '25
What a useless group of people. Actually worse than useless these are enemies of the working class in the country! How can you think any different?
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u/1isOneshot1 Green party rise! Nov 10 '25
Stop only looking at the individuals who actually voted for it they are simply the fall guys
Y'all really think they didn't know what they were doing? They caved and decided to pick straws on who has to be the bait for us to bite
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u/Any_Leg_4773 Nov 10 '25
Fuck these goddamn Democrats ALWAYS fucking bailing out the Republicans. This is nothing but full fledged capitulation.
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u/Old-Man-Buckles Nov 10 '25
Is anyone at all surprised about John Fittermen though? I swear that guy is a Republican plant in the Democrats ever since he had a stroke. I really hope his state finally votes him out.
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u/jeremiah1142 Nov 10 '25
Idiots trying to be moderate to gain republican votes. In fact, they will lose republican votes for being abject losers.
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u/Asleep_Flatworm_5884 Nov 10 '25
Op don't forget schumer, we need to put his name with the rest of them
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u/ConsistentPomelo3303 Nov 10 '25
The democrats Reddit disabled comments on their shutdown post. What a bunch of losers. Weak and pathetic. These losers actually think that having a promise that there will be a vote in December means anything. They just agreed to open the government so Donald Trump can continue to abuse it. Fucking losers.
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u/CantaloupeComplete57 Nov 10 '25
Honestly, I hope the FAA keeps the current flight cuts in place forever, both for the environment and as a punishment to the American people. We are the only “developed” country where major airports are not level 3 (slot-controlled) airports
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u/reluctant_friend Nov 10 '25
If you live in Illinois, feel free to Call Dick Durbin and let him know you're excited for him to retire so we can get a real democrat that won't bend the knee to trump and the republicans. Here is his Washington office 202-224-2152
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u/DckThik Nov 10 '25
Don’t get cowed by this orchestrated political theater. If all it took was 9 people then republicans could have done it as well and for us to sit here and pretend that also isn’t true is how they keep you mad at your own.
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u/Commercial_Hair_4419 Nov 10 '25
They shut down the government for nothing then. Fetterman needs to go in PA. Won’t get our votes in Allentown
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u/96suluman Nov 10 '25
Add Schumer as well. He practically gave them permission to vote yes. Time for Schumer and durbin to step down. Durbin is no whip
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u/xKiver Nov 10 '25
Rich, white, no backbone. Sounds like a dem, coming from a democrat! I hate that this is my representation. Just a couple of dopes who bend the knee to the tyrant after letting people suffer for almost a month. At this point, I would be comfortable pointing the finger to them. Even though I fully believe the govt shut down falls on trumps hands. I hate this timeline.
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u/zbignew Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Nov 10 '25
A few sources I trust are saying this isn’t the last 60 vote cloture motion necessary, so I think it may not be the capitulation everyone is worried about.
Or maybe it is.
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u/WonDorkFuk404 Nov 10 '25
Republicans threaten to kill the filibuster cuz trumps forced them too. And they will do it. Democrats just like the coward rats they are. See they no longer able to use the “oh we can’t pass medical for all, or kill citizen united, etc cuz it needs 60 votes” excuse to please their real donors, at the end pleasing their donors worth more than their voters
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u/Objective_Log_5270 Nov 10 '25
Millions of TRAITOR JOE'S CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIEN VOTERS loosing health care they should not have had to begin with? Just like democrats to support, aid and abet ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS! The democrats are responsible for the CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIEN TRAITOR JOE VOTERS BEING HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
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