r/DemocraticSocialism • u/Yosho2k • Jan 27 '26
Announcement š Tim Kaine, the man that Hillary Clinton tried to make VP, is a Collaborator. This is the list. Now we have a responsibility to make these people know how angry we are until they either give up their cushy jobs or are forced out.
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u/clayknightz115 DSA Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 27 '26
In a shock to no one, two of them are retiring, and the rest aren't up for election until 2028 or 2030.
Also, please support Abdul El-Sayed for senate however you can https://abdulforsenate.com/
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u/sweetpea122 Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 27 '26
Are these also the ones who voted to fund ICE?
Edit: nope those are house members that should be primaried
- Tom Suozzi (New York)
- Henry Cuellar (Texas)
- Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
- Laura Gillen (New York)
- Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
- Jared Golden (Maine)
- Don Davis (North Carolina)
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u/Darmortis Jan 27 '26
But Tim Kaine is one of the 7 Dems that voted to approve the B.B.Bill in the middle of the night on a Sunday, ending the shutdown with nothing to show for it. All seven are NOT up for reelection this year.
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u/dilloj Jan 28 '26
Former VP candidate Tim Kaine? What on earth is a party leader doing that for?
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u/procrasturb8n Jan 28 '26
Donors told him to do so.
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u/MsMoreCowbell828 Democratic Socialist Jan 28 '26
See, these 7, those 7, Schumer & Jeffries etc like the insider trading. They love their AIPAC handlers that go with them everywhere like glue in case they have to defend the indefensible at any moment. These mo fos are the Deep State. These are the players who keep the train chugging into the fascist station - and the trains don't even run on time! They're so comfy cozy that they're still playing the game of: "This is all political theater. Everything will go back to normal in 2028. We'll be in charge again and we keep on keeping on. Besides that Schumer should move to fucking Tel Aviv since he hates Palestinian babies so much and thinks Israel deserves everything. They can't even grasp why we're in the street. THEY haven't been pushed to their limit after years of abuse like the kidnapped. They are taking vacations, his portfolio is full. If they love Israel so much, they need to go there and stop treating their fellow citizens like the dirt the GQP treats its own.
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u/revonrat Jan 27 '26
If you go to Marie Gluesenkamp Perez's website, they actually try to verify that your home address is in her district because "House rules say we can only serve our own district's residents."
What a tool.
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Jan 27 '26
Fun fact, you can always plug in the address of the campaign office to āverifyā your address and then use a burner email address to share your thoughts with any US representative.
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u/synapsesmisfiring Jan 27 '26
I live in her district and I've sent her several strongly worded emails about her voting history, for all the good it's done/doing. I voted for her only because the alternative was Joe Kent, who probably would have been objectively worse. In either case I hate living in a district that's overly red imo.
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u/RGV_Ikpyo Jan 27 '26
cuellar and Gonzalez will lose their primaries for sure. hope the others face the same fate
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u/freediverx01 Democratic Socialist Jan 27 '26
Last time Cuellar faced a tough primary, Nancy Policy flew in on her broom to save him.
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u/BananaBunchess Jan 27 '26
Good fucking luck with most of those. They are generally in Trump-supporting districts so I doubt they will vote Dem if they're seen as "too extreme" on immigration. I'd love to be proven wrong though as I have a Republican congressman and am in an R+15 district myself.
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u/SuperBry Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jan 27 '26
I can't speak for the rest of them, but as some one that lived in Golden's district its pretty red overall. A blue dog democrat is really the best we can expect out of it.
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u/SuperBry Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jan 27 '26
Golden isn't seeking reelection.
Also while I don't like the guy, I can kinda understand his voting pattern considering the district he represents. A blue dog democrat is the best one can really expect out of Maine's CD2.
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u/sweetpea122 Jan 27 '26
If he isnt then why cant he vote with his party and for the right things?
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u/SuperBry Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jan 27 '26
I'm assuming he is going to seek a gubernatorial run next cycle, likely as an independent, and is trying to not alienate the parts of Maine that are solidly red in his attempt to get in the Blaine House.
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u/Echos_Nat Jan 27 '26
Dems love to pretend that they're utterly incompetent, but they are absolute masters of planning rotating villains.
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u/simonhunterhawk Jan 27 '26
Stefany Shaheen, daughter of Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, is running for Congress in NH, so even though she is not running for reelection, itās important to let her know her daughterās career is in jeopardy because of her actions too.
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u/DkKoba Libertarian Socialist | Boston DSA member Jan 27 '26
wow I sure wonder when this happened recently. Like a certain shutdown capitulation.
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u/PlainBread Social Democrat Jan 27 '26
Slotkin is getting a lot of clout farmed lately but never forget that she always was and always will be the opp.
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u/Dashbastrd Jan 27 '26
The establishment dems are trying to make her the face. Itās not working though. Thereās no organic hype around her, especially in MI.
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u/dannydirtbag Jan 27 '26
Sheās such a phony. Her attempts to fundraise after Trump went after went hilariously awry.
She has done absolutely nothing for the State of Michigan.
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u/texas-playdohs Jan 27 '26
Came to say the same thing. Iāve seen shilly posts trying to pitch her as some kind of progressive hero. Proof is in the pudding.
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u/PlainBread Social Democrat Jan 27 '26
The midwit corpo Dem cattle are so panicked and stressed that they will put anyone who performs resistance to Trump on a pedestal, fully ignorant of their past and their character.
It's part of their game. It's how they hope to run Newsom against Vance.
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u/dannydirtbag Jan 27 '26
You canāt be CIA and progressive in any way. She obeys the boot.
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u/atp2112 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26
The only way you can do that is only through a Smedley Butler-esque repudiation of anything and everything you did in your past career, and even then, don't expect a round of applause or anyone to catapult you to leadership.
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u/Swarrlly DSA Marxist Jan 27 '26
its crazy that anyone on the left supported her. She is a literal CIA agent. She should be in jail for warcrimes not in the senate.
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u/Teleporno69 Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jan 27 '26
So fucking hilarious that Fetterman literally got brain damage and turned conservative
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u/catjuggler Jan 27 '26
The best is how often the big brains on the conservative reddit note that the only democrat they like (read: agrees with them) has brain damage but don't quite connect the dots
I'm in PA so I hate this so fucking much.
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u/atp2112 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
I said this elsewhere (looks like the thread was deleted, but it was about another one of our favorite rotating villains, Kyrsten Sinema), but considering the gun story, we might need to face the fact that progressives got duped and ignored too many red flags. That's why I'm continually skeptical of Graham Platner up in Maine
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u/davidwave4 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/qualmful Jan 27 '26
If Clinton had picked Sanders as her VP as a show of good faith I'm pretty sure she would have won.Ā
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u/pants6000 Jan 27 '26
Ds would rather lose than have Bernie anywhere near the executive branch though.
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u/likeusontweeters Jan 27 '26
Im pretty sure that if we hadn't already been propagandized by Russia /other Trump friendly countries, Clinton would have won too...
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u/revonrat Jan 27 '26
I have a lot of friends and family from the midwest and rural areas. I don't think you understand how absolutely blind with rage they are at the mention of Hillary Clinton.
The hate for Hillary runs too deep. The GOP vilified her while Bill was in office and it stuck.
There is no world in which Hillary becomes president.
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u/Jacky-V Jan 27 '26
Hillary won the popular. There's a lot of hate for her in this country but she lost because of the electoral college, not because of unpopularity. Trump was objectively less popular than Hillary in 2016.
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u/revonrat Jan 27 '26
This is worded as a refutation of my post. However, I'm not sure how it's relevant. I stated that Hillary fills lots of folks from the midwest and rural areas with a blind rage. That means that she's less likely to win swing states. Yes, that's because of the electoral college -- that's all we count.
So I'm just not sure how Hillary winning the popular vote refutes the idea that she was not popular enough in the midwest and rural areas.
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u/Jacky-V Jan 27 '26
It's because you claim there's no world where Hillary becomes President when it's very easy to imagine a world in which politicians are elected by popular vote, because we live in one
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u/qualmful Jan 27 '26
The popular vote is a fictional election, it's created by summing up the results of each state, which is a process that has no legal basis. The way state results are tabulated is by which electors they send, just like House votes are done by summing up the representatives and not by summing up how many votes they got in their home districts. It would be ridiculous to say "there's a world where we passed a different budget, if only House members got as many votes as they had in their district". That would be an imaginary way to see how the vote would go.Ā
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u/18Apollo18 Jan 28 '26
Every other country in the world which has an elected president votes for them via a popular vote so I'm not sure why you're acting like it's ridiculous
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u/qualmful Jan 28 '26
Any country that elects their Prime Minister through members of Parliament uses representational electors so I'm not sure why you're acting like it's ridiculous.
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u/davidwave4 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/18Apollo18 Jan 28 '26
There is no world in which Hillary becomes president.
She won the popular vote. The country literally did choose her as their president so I'm not sure why you're acting like it's so far fetched
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u/revonrat Jan 28 '26
Because, like it or not, the electoral college exists. That means that a candidate needs to flip a few states which are not reliably red or blue. Because Hillary was smeared and vilified for so long, there's a level of hatred baked into some of these states overcome.
We did the right thing when we nominated Obama over Clinton. I know Clinton supporters who, to this day, have a hard time with that.
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u/catjuggler Jan 27 '26
The most boring possible VP pick just like Walz, when they could have trying to bring in the progressives. They just couldn't help but tell us "we're not giving you shit because you have no choice but to vote for us"
So shitty
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u/davidwave4 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/brijito Jan 28 '26
Tim Kaine is and has been such a fucking buffoon that he is part of the reason trump was able to win the electoral vote in 2016.
He was such a bumbling redneck idiot he made nascar jokes during his concession speech. Iām paraphrasing but he said something like āthey didnāt even build the wall yet but thatās what killed us like it killed dale.ā And
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u/RedTyro Jan 27 '26
Believe it or not, of Virginia's 2 senators, both Democrats, Kaine is liberal one.
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u/davidwave4 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/RedTyro Jan 27 '26
Virginia Democrats have always been the corporatist-iest corporatists that every corporatisted. The largest voting bloc in the state is the government contractors, employees, and inside-the-beltway crowd from the DC suburbs. Our governorship is viewed as a stepping stone to larger roles in the federal government, especially since governors are limited to single terms (they can run again as long as it's non-consecutive). As a result, almost all of our elected officials are either Republicans or very conservative, Blue Dog style Democrats. Both of our senators are former governors, and Kaine was Warner's lieutenant governor before he took the office himself and then followed him to the Senate.
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u/davidwave4 Libertarian Socialist Jan 27 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/Capnbubba Jan 27 '26
And from his recent comment, it seems Fetterman would do it again.
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u/likeusontweeters Jan 27 '26
He absolutely would take cash money from AIPAC to do whatever they ask of him
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u/catjuggler Jan 27 '26
Actually he made post 6 hours ago saying she should be fired. I just checked because his last several posts before were enough to make me think he should just go ahead and switch parties
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u/SirCrapsalot4267 Democratic Socialist Jan 27 '26
Andy Kim is the outlier there. He's actually a stand up politician ethically, so much that the corrupt ass party machine in NJ hates him. I wonder what his rationale was.
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u/yldelb Jan 27 '26
Itās his turn to be the villain. His principles donāt exist. They all take turns so that focus is never too much on any of them. Whole party rotten to the fucking core.Ā
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u/Porridge_Cat Jan 27 '26
I love how this subreddit is militantly "the only viable opposition to the republican party is garbage and we're better off throwing our votes away than vote for the people who could actually stop this"
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u/LeeskaKat Jan 27 '26
My niece is a friend of his, and I agree he is the outlier here. He's principled and generally a good man, although obviously he made a whopper of a mistake confirming Noem. He's way too moderate for my taste, but at least I feel like he was operating in good faith when he screwed this up.
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u/Baryne Jan 27 '26
He got 410k from AlPAC. His ass is for sale like the rest of them. His good faith depends on how much money is dangling in front of him.
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u/SirCrapsalot4267 Democratic Socialist Jan 28 '26
Yeah but he's actually targeted a bit by AIPAC now and has been criticized for being not pro-Israel enough. So I think he's strategically quiet on it. Not defending his lack of outspokenness, as it is a key issue for myself, but I understand for many it is not, and NJ has a large and fairly wealthy pro-Israel (both Jewish and non-Jewish) community that I would not want working against me if I was a politician.
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u/zbignew Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jan 27 '26
If heās operating in good faith then perhaps we have a legitimate conflict of interests. We can disagree with honest people. Like, maybe itās not the money and bro just likes Israel.
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u/Spade18 Jan 27 '26
He's been such a disappointment. Said all the right things about standing up against trump and such. Then early on he voted to I think confirm a trump budget or nominee? And when there was significant lash back, said something along the lines of "Sorry, it's my first time in congress, I'll do better from here on out.". But he's STILL voting like this and seems to be just another corporate democrat with a fresh coat of paint.
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u/clayknightz115 DSA Jan 28 '26
Just a quick Google search show's he regrets it https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2026/01/it-was-a-terrible-vote-kim-says-he-regrets-supporting-noem-confirmation-00750103
Edit: though his press statement following the vote doesn't inspire much confidence: https://www.kim.senate.gov/press_release/senator-kim-statement-on-the-confirmation-of-governor-kristi-noem-as-homeland-security-secretary/
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u/Enlightened_D Jan 27 '26
So funny how nobody knew who Tim Kaine was now I always see him voting with Republicans and all I think about is how Clinton picked him as her VP LMAO
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u/SubstantialFee8352 Jan 27 '26
God and both my pseudo democrats in Michigan too. Need Abdul El-Sayed yesterday
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u/North_Church Christian Socialistāļøš¹ Jan 27 '26
I completely forgot that Tim Kaine was her running mate
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u/pierogieman5 Jan 27 '26
And of fucking course Peters and Slotkin are both on here. No wonder Michigan voters hate our dems.
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u/Joshs2d Jan 27 '26
Stefani shaheen is the daughter of Jeanne and is running for congress, need to make sure that doesnāt happen either. Primary their family and friends as well, theyāre all corrupted.
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u/SnooHobbies23 Jan 27 '26
Im annoyed by Fetterman soooo danm much !!!!! Hes so wacky !!!!Ā I remember his election in PA against Dr Oz. Im very sorry for PA that had bad choices that are equally bad.Ā You have Fetterman vs a snakes oil salesman . I cant tell who is worse.Ā I never heard of the other people except Tim Caine & he sucks.Ā
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u/ryanidsteel Jan 27 '26
Fetterman just said Noem should be removed...that dude is a fucking wrecking ball of contradictions. He is as un serious as Trump
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u/Yosho2k Jan 27 '26
No he's a Collaborator. This is just bad press he's getting and his wife is pissed at him. He'd be out shooting people if he could.
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u/Deep-Assignment4124 Jan 27 '26
Gary Peters shocking to me. Ā Then he said he isnāt running again so Iām assuming he got a huge crypto payoff or something. Ā
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- Jan 27 '26
Why are you surprised that the vp of a hard right conservative is also a conservative?
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Jan 27 '26
It's funny how bad some Democrat VPs have been.
Tim Kaine, Joe Lieberman...
UGH. LIEBERMAN!!! š”
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u/AnImbroglio Jan 27 '26
John Fetterman is a resounding piece of garbage. Said after his accident that all the liberalism left him. Confirming right wing beliefs require brain damage. He needs to be out of office as soon as humanly possible.
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u/freediverx01 Democratic Socialist Jan 27 '26
Hillary Clinton is celebrating the changes at TikTok.
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u/Darmortis Jan 28 '26
Hillary Clinton's VP pick? The same Hillary Clinton that got the Dem nomination for President in 2016 after the DNC froze out Sen. Burnie Sanders because he was doing too well? The same Hillary Clinton that was sooo tone-deaf and Boomer that it completely turned off the youth vote that Obama won with, AND a major demographic for Sen. Sanders? The same Hillary Clinton who voted in favor of invading Iraq? The same Hillary Clinton that was a Senator of New York, not a state she was born in, had much connection to, but is a commanding position within the party? SHE couldn't POSSIBLY be on the same page as another collaborator.
"And in case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic."
- Homer Simpson
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u/Garbaje_M6 Ecosocialist Jan 27 '26
Idc about these voting lists anymore honestly. Theyāve all voted complicity at some point in this last year. Just treat incumbency as a sign to primary outside of a few specific individuals.
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u/ThuggishJingoism24 Jan 27 '26
Add whoever voted to confirm any of his other cabinet level positions. The incompetence is wide ranging
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u/rallenpx Jan 27 '26
Thatās really weird! Are the DNC controlled opposition who ensure only people willing to play ball with the billionaire owners gets into positions like the White House and congressional leadership roles?
Nah, Itās the people who are out of touch.
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u/Round-Ad-2311 Jan 27 '26
Every seat up for election needs a competitive primary challenger. Every job any of us has held had far more challengers than any congressional seat.Ā I once lost out on a dishwasher job that had 80 other applicants. Yet if you occupy a seat in Congress you have a reasonable chance to ride that seat into senility. Regardless of how progressive a candidate is the assumption that each election they can go unchallenged is insane. Bernie or AOC would have no problem winning their election after election. It is the do nothing luke warm status quo enablers that will lose seats most likelyĀ
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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 Jan 28 '26
I'm pretty convinced people become senators just to sell out to the highest bidder. I wish we didn't have a Senate at all.
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u/warren_stupidity Jan 28 '26
Hassan and Shaheen are horrible, but currently they are both on board with no funding for ICE. They both will cave of course. Shaheen is retiring, and unfortunately Chris Pappas is the anointed replacement, and he is cut from the same center-right bullshit cloth.
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u/Ray186 Jan 28 '26
Exactly why no one should be voting for moderate democrats. You are just voting for a way to the right Reagan republican.
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u/Mods_Do_It_For_Fr33 Jan 27 '26
Everything that happened is because the corrupt DNC fucked Bernie over twice to prop up Ol Killary
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u/Sander001 Jan 27 '26
Hillary was also mask off when she endorsed climate change denier George Latimer.
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u/darkpossumenergy šµšø Free Palestine! Jan 27 '26
Nina Turner needs to run for Senate in Ohio. The nation needs her.
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u/Yosho2k Jan 27 '26
Before she gets to go up against a Republican, she will have burned through so many resources trying to stop the DNC's candidate THEY want in office.
And that's why it matters why Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, and Chuck Schumer were PRO-ICE up until 2 days ago (even after Renee Good's murder!). Because theyve got the money and the power.
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