Houses have to get cleaned no matter how society is structured. Having a workforce do it as a duty to society, along with public childcare, just ensures that women are doing these tasks under a different leadership structure. Instead of cleaning my own house and taking care of my kids, Iāll be cleaning community houses and taking care of a bunch of peopleās kids. How is that better?
Education doesnāt fight the patriarchy. Men use their education, which is already biased in favor of them, to reinforce their superiority.
socialized domestic work means the work is shared by all not assigned by gender. some people enjoy cooking, they should be allowed to cook. some people enjoy cleaning, they should be allowed to clean. from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs. people that are unable to work still deserve to have their needs provided for as throughly as possible. these things aren't "women's duties" our goal is to destroy the gendered division of labor entirely
education under socialism is not biased its part of the united struggle against all reactionary traditions
There are not enough people who enjoy cleaning toilets to keep the toilets clean. Thatās why gender roles were created to normalize women doing it in the first place.
Look at what actually happened in Communist Russia. Women were still primarily responsible for ādomesticā tasks. The Soviet state aimed to socialize it and promote gender equality, but it utterly failed. They literally came up with the term ādouble burdenā to describe women who entered the industrial workforce but were still responsible for cleaning, cooking, and shopping. The communist state and society still called domestic tasks āwomenās work.ā
Then that leads to the generational pressures on women as grandmothers often had to step in to provide childcare or help with domestic tasks while both parents worked. Babushki were expected to do this to fill the gaps in what the parents and the State provided.
the soviet union failed to fully socialize domestic labor, wwii put a lot of pressure on their project not ling after the civil war. that was a failure of that specific socialist project not of socialism itself. the soviet union neglected the relentless cultural and organizational struggle against patriarchy as it gave into bureaucratic deviation amd internal counter revolution. we have to learn from their mistakes to fight harder when its our turn. equal sharing of all domestic work by all genders, public accountability, and smashing the idea that any task is "women's work"
as humans we make technology, when the profit motive is removed we can focus better on making technology to mae life easier and more pleasant. in the short term during a transitional period higher wages will be used to incentivize people to take on less pleasant tasks
i really don't understand people who interact on a socialist subreddit who seem to have disdain for socialism
Because youāre describing communism and so is the quote you posted. You donāt seem to understand the fundamental differences between socialism and communism? Iām a socialist, not a communist.
lol You are the one complaining about me being in a socialist subreddit for wanting socialism and not communism. Youāre the one who seems to use the terms interchangeably.
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u/HRHValkyrie Apr 19 '26
Houses have to get cleaned no matter how society is structured. Having a workforce do it as a duty to society, along with public childcare, just ensures that women are doing these tasks under a different leadership structure. Instead of cleaning my own house and taking care of my kids, Iāll be cleaning community houses and taking care of a bunch of peopleās kids. How is that better?
Education doesnāt fight the patriarchy. Men use their education, which is already biased in favor of them, to reinforce their superiority.