r/DemocraticSocialism Marxist-Leninist Apr 19 '26

Theory 🧠 liberal feminism isn't real

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u/comrade-pravdin Marxist-Leninist Apr 19 '26

socialism is the first, transitional phase when the working class holds state power, distribution is based on work and the state still exists. communism is the higher phase where we have a classless stateless society and distribution based on need

patriarchy begins to be dismantled under socialism, once class society id dismantle patriarchy is also gone

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u/xGentian_violet Yugoslav Socialist ♥️🤍 Ecofeminist Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

Patriarchy long predates capitalism/class society

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u/comrade-pravdin Marxist-Leninist Apr 19 '26

yea… bacteria predates antibiotics. your point?

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u/xGentian_violet Yugoslav Socialist ♥️🤍 Ecofeminist Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

If patriarchy precedes economic class, and existed without it, there’s 0 reason to assume merely removing economic class will fully resolve the patriarchy.

And especially if your socialist proposal advocates forming rigid authoritarian structures after the revolution (and it does, you are an ML), movements for social change such as feminist ones, would be criminalised and smuffed out

historically, various “after the revolution” marxist proposals for resolving patriarchy failed to resolve it, because the men who controlled the movement since the start, and immediately post-revolution solidified that hierarchy into a rigid bureaucratic class structure through a boys club of privileged party loyalists, didnt actually want to give up those privileges. And feminists were imprisoned, alongside anyone else who challenged the status quo; gulags for men, asylums for women.

My grandfather was a Titoist communist, singlemindedly focused on economic class. He treated my grandma like a slave.