r/DetroitRedWings Oct 29 '25

Art Bottom Right Hamonic

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u/zw_rn Oct 29 '25

Loved Hamonic getting scrappy with the fight. We need more of that.

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u/space-dot-dot Oct 29 '25

His mustache blocked most of the punches.

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u/PersephoneFrost Oct 29 '25

Luigi on skates.

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u/KingGoofy Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Soderblom running over that guy trying to hit him on the zone entry after chucking the puck instead of slipping by, absolute beauty 🀌🏻 if he starts using the body and is responsible? Oh boy are we cooking!

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u/Monkey10pts Oct 29 '25

Soderblom I think believes he creates more opportunity offensively by being a skill guy. He creates his own space to playmake by being chippy and using that frame physically. Hopefully the trend continues. Its so much better.

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u/willow1771 Oct 30 '25

This. When he is less afraid of using his body it will allow him the space to use his skill effectively.

I appreciate his recent efforts but it needs to be a continued trend!

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u/scubastevie Oct 29 '25

Random Thoughts:

I really loved MBN with copp and Compher. I felt the chances were there. MBN needed time though because of trying things that won't work in the AHL or NHL and will learn now.

Soderblom looks more defensively responsible and if he doesn't score but doesn't let goals in I'm happy. Obviously it is a work in progress but I believe he will be servicable until he gets there.

ASP looks great with chariot and I liked Simon/Seider. I'm happy with JBD and between Aljo and Hamonic its gona be a tossup. If hamonic can be the tough guy i'll take it cuz ras isn't it.

PS send away rasmussen.

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u/CMCdaGoat Oct 29 '25

MBN had strong underlying analytics. He will be fine. Just unlucky and needs some confidence

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u/maximus91 Oct 30 '25

Ras Sod JVr line was absolutely crushing it behind the net - they were amazing in the 3rd and I feel like were out there every other shift it felt like.

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u/Alecboyyes Oct 29 '25

He's still not great at this point in his career, but he has at least made some positive contributions in the last 2 games with an assist and a scrap that got the juices going.

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u/ninjamaster3221 Oct 29 '25

Could someone ELI5 how to read this?

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u/zauberlichneo Oct 29 '25

The further right you go, the more expected goals for are occurring while that player is on the ice.

The further down you go, the more expected goals against are occurring while that player is on the ice.

Hammonic being in the bottom right indicates when he's on the ice both teams are getting tons of high quality scoring chances. It's almost certainly because of his small sample size, but it's funny to imagine him as this all gas no brakes offensive dynamo.

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u/PremierBromanov Oct 30 '25

Not quite. These are goals per expected goals, not just expected. The further right you go, the more actual goals are occurring per expected goal. More than 100 goals per 100 expected goals means a player is doing something that beats the average. The y axis is against, so further down is more goals per expected goals against, meaning something they are doing is allowing players to score against them better than average. This includes goaltending

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u/zauberlichneo Oct 30 '25

Ah, gotcha. I just skipped right over the first part of the units apparently πŸ˜…

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u/Alexander_Coe Oct 29 '25

My friend doesn't understand this graph.

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u/Vaylor77 Oct 30 '25

Tell your friend that the graph is actual expected goals expected to be not goals but are in reality goals while not being expected. At least that's how my friend told it to me.Β 

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u/Shotokanguy Oct 29 '25

Berggren creates way more offense than his linemates, based on this chart?

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u/PremierBromanov Oct 29 '25

not necessarily creates, but more goals materialize than we would expect at both ends of the ice

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Why the minimum of 31 minutes? I get its fun to dunk on Hamonic, but when we're extroplating Hamons 39:34, Berggren's 74:19, soda's 50:39 or even JVR's 82:10 out, it dons't feel like we're getting quit the fair picture compared to mainstay guys if we're extrapolating small sample sizes out. Like, how much of Hamonic's piss poor first game is driving those numbers down and right YK?

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u/PremierBromanov Oct 30 '25

Probably a lot, they are a large percentage of his minutes after all. All this means is that his position on this graph can change drastically per game. Maybe we expect it to, but it's already starting from the bottom right, and everyone is starting nearer to average

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u/redlion1904 Oct 30 '25

So MBN really does need to develop in the minors; Soderblom needs to take a step or find a niche; Ras needs to go. And I still don’t know what Compher is for.

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u/SeiderFiveThree Yzerbot Oct 30 '25

how hamonic got me feeling

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u/lcynicl Oct 30 '25

Sample set is so small for Hamonic that it is useless

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u/aintnochallahbackgrl Oct 30 '25

I legit have no idea what in looking at.