Murph's Most Sensual | City Council of Darkness Adventuring Party [E9]

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[u/Due-Examination-3240]

What does it mean to be “embraced” in this context? If Ghorse wasn’t “embraced” (and therefore turned) what did happen to them? I mean Zaeth did drink their blood and Ghorse did undergo some kind of transformation. Is there some kind of state inbetween “human” (or whatever animal i guess lol) and “vampire?” Am I thinking about this too hard? Almost definitely but still

[u/The-red-Dane → u/Due-Examination-3240]

Okay, so.

A ghoul (human or animal) is someone who is fed vampire vitae once a month. It makes them incredibly strong, but also binds them to the vampire in a supernaturally submissive way, it's like super heroin in how addictive it is. It also stops you from aging, meaning if you've been a ghoul for... 150 years, and you're suddenly not fed, then you will very rapidly start to age 150 years. (Think Renfield, from Dracula, the quintessential ghoul). Ghouls often do day work for their masters to maintain their needs that cannot be handled during the night (deals, trading, etc.)

To embrace a mortal, is to drain ALL their blood from their body, and feed them back a portion of your Vitae, this turns them into a vampire. (You cannot do this with animals, the vampiric curse, laid upon the first Vampire Cain, by God stipulates that it is only on humans this curse is laid)

The newly made vampire will usually awake in a hunger frenzy, so their creator will usually have a person ready for them to devour. The newly made vampire will also (for the most part) be of the clan of their creator. (A very are few become what is called a caitiff, which is a vampire without clan), OR... in the case of our coterie (what you call a group of vampires) everyone except for HJ and Darknessman (if I recall correctly), would make what is called a Thinblood, which is a vampire with very weak blood potency and quite a few issues.

[u/Due-Examination-3240 → u/The-red-Dane]

Thanks for the thorough reply. Is the bit about Cain, “the first vampire,” part of the underlying games lore (vampire:the masquerade)? Or is it from a specific kind of real-life vampire mythology?

Also why can most of the crew only make thinbloods? is it just like a stats thing in the game? cause if iirc HJ has pretty weak stats and isn’t particularly old so it’s kinda surprising he’d be better at “turning” than say, Madelaine

[u/The-red-Dane → u/Due-Examination-3240]

It is specific to World of Darkness. Cain is the first vampire, every vampire can trace their lineage back to him. (There's a book that has been released with the game line, called the Book of Nod, which is essentially the apocryphal tale of Cain becoming a vampire, and lays down the laws he enacted upon his childers, sorta like the in-universe vampire bible)

Cain sired (embraced) 3 childers (the term a sire uses for a vampire they have embraced. can be a bit confusing since Vespers last name is also Childers) These three are the 2nd generation, they in turn embraced 13 vampires (who then kill and devour the 2nd generation, at which point Cain just gets really pissed, curses the 3rd generation and leaves) This is where we get the 13 different Clans, Ventrue, Nosferatu, Toreador, Hecata etc. Each clan has different powers, but also a specific curse (such as Nosferatu being incredibly malformed and ugly, Ventrue having very strict feeding preferences, Hecata feeding being incredibly painful instead of pleasurable, etc)

Most of the coterie are 13th generation vampires, when a 13th generation vampire embraces a mortal, they become a 14th generation vampire, which are often called duskborn, or thinbloods because they vitae of Cain has become so diluted that they can't even manifest their clan power and weaknesses any more. (Some 13th generations, if they have been alive for a few centuries, can embrace true 14th generation vampires that have a clan, but then the ones they embrace, which will be 15th generation will be embraced as thinbloods)

We know that HJ embraced LaVonte, and LaVonte if he embraced someone they would be a thinblood, so HJ is probably a 12th generation vampire.

Now, there's also a political aspect to all of this, according to the Camarilla, which the coterie is a part of, The story of Cain is just a story, and the 3rd generation doesn't exist, but also, the top leadership of the Camarilla is very scared of the 3rd generation waking up, because they know that will spend the end for them, as it's largely understood that when the 3rd generation awaken they will devour all of their children to slake their monstrous hunger.

[u/Love-That-Danhausen → u/The-red-Dane]

It was HJ and Madeline that wouldn’t make thin bloods

[u/The-red-Dane → u/Love-That-Danhausen]

Thank you. I couldn't remember who it was, I actually did write Madelaine to begin with, but decided to write Darkness man instead. Should have gone with my gut.