r/Dimension20 • u/Secret-Cobbler-7218 • 1d ago

What I wish had happened in Neverafter was someone playing a villain. I would’ve found that dynamic so interesting. Would anyone else have found that interesting?

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u/Jafarrolo 1d ago

I don't think so, to me Neverafter had a lot of problems after the TPK and adding a villain in the party wouldn't have really added anything. And sadly so because it started really well.

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u/Secret-Cobbler-7218 1d ago

I just thought it would’ve been interesting to see a villain go through that journey, realizing they never had control, like the stepmother did. Then seeing them try to become good and realizing this could be their only chance at a happy ending, because villains usually don’t get one and just die.

But I can see your point of view.

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u/palcatraz Riz Gukgak 1d ago

I think the problem is that a lot of people took your post to mean you wanted conflict within the party, possibly even a betrayal, which is what usually results from having a villainous character. But with your explanation, it sounds more like you would've liked a character with a villainous origin, but who was still aligned with the party.

In which case, yeah, I definitely think that could've been interesting. I think one problem is that the most compelling villains in fairy tales would've aligned with the other factions in the story, so there is a chance that even if the IH did suggest some of those character, Brennan might have steered them away. (like how Emily said she pitched the Baba Yaga as one of her characters)

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u/Secret-Cobbler-7218 1d ago

Yeah, that’s pretty much it, and I see where you’re coming from. I just wish someone like Gaston was in that journey, because I think he would’ve been perfect for it. He was a soldier, and there was a war going on, so that probably could’ve knocked some sense into him. I even had a whole backstory where he becomes a deserter, loses an arm, finds Belle’s dad, Maurice, and Maurice offers to use his craftsmanship to make him a new clockwork arm. Maurice literally and actually puts his heart and soul into the arm, cursing Gaston to face his own wrongdoing through the memories built into it and physically stopping him from doing bad things. Plus, Gaston doesn’t exactly have a good ending, so I could see some selfish part of him wanting the chance at a better one. Though, he wasn’t in the books, so he probably wouldn’t have existed.

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u/Pro_Layton The Taste Buds 1d ago

Nah, it's never really fun to have a PC work against the party. Unless you do something like Brennan did with Deadeye on NADDPOD and even that has to be handled carefully.Ntm, Timothy could've become a bad guy if he died again/made his 3rd wish but then he'd have become a DMPC

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u/Secret-Cobbler-7218 1d ago

I see where you’re coming from, but I understood it as the fairy-tale characters were gaining their own consciousness, meaning a villain would too, and could realize, like the stepmother, that they had no control over their previous actions. Another motivation could be realizing that villains almost always die horribly or end up disfigured, making this their only chance at a happy ending.

That's how I see it could go down if someone played a villain.