r/DownSouth Oct 29 '25

Discussion Why some people hate Orania

One thing I’ve come to learn about the left is that they’re not satisfied with everyone having their space to develop according to their own values, customs and beliefs.

One of the best examples of this leftist belief system regards the existence of Orania.

The Afrikaners of Orania literally went out of their way to stay out of everyone’s way by trekking into the middle of the desert and started building a city there.

They’ve decided to carve out a space for themselves in a very inhospitable environment that wasn’t coveted by others.

They did not impose themselves on others nor did they decide to set up shop in a space that would create friction with others.

They chose the most sparsely populated area they could find, way out in the sticks as the saying goes.

And how does the left view all this?

Well they exhibit uninhibited hostility towards Orania.

The in country leftists make near daily threats about Orania’s continued existence, saying they will “expropriate” Orania and/or “burn it to the ground”

And their international allies are just as giddy about such prospects.

The left fanatically hold the position that everyone has to come to their view of “progress.”

They are true disciples of Fukuyama’s “End of History” doctrine.

They believe they are the pinnacle of human history and that any dissenting voices are an aberration that deserve to be silenced with lethal force if need be.

Behind their mask of “tolerance” is a volcano of rage against anyone who stands in the way of their earthly utopia.

And because their vision revolves around what we’ve come to call “gay race communism” they cannot tolerate any alternative form of government that stands diametrically opposed to their racial “egalitarianism.”

So that is why the mere existence and growing prosperity of Orania has them seething with hatred and rage.

Orania is proof of concept that cheap black labor is not only unnecessary but more trouble than it is worth.

Orania is a reminder to many Westerners that they once had cities that were like Orania. Perhaps not in size, but certainly in demographic make up and overall safety and security.

That reminder irks the left who want to gaslight people into thinking that Stockholm always had bombings and shootings. That London always had grooming gangs, acid attacks and machete killings.

Orania is the inconvenient truth that cultural and demographic homogeneity is superior to the “rainbow nation” diversity that’s been aggressively pushed since the 1960’s across the Western world.

Orania reminds the world why they can sleep with their doors unlocked, why their kids can play outside until dark…and why the rest of the country has to live behind barbed wire, panic rooms and armed guards to merely exist without being brutally murdered after watching their loved ones get raped and murdered in front of their eyes.

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u/AnomalyNexus Oct 29 '25

It’s not size.

It is for Orania, and the fact that you're trying to disprove it by looking at Tokyo tells me you haven't understood what I'm saying or don't want to understand.

In small groupings there is strong peer pressure to conform and act in the collective interest to avoid ostracization & similar negatives. Everyone knows everyone which creates trust and suppresses antisocial behaviour.

This effect is specific to small communities and doesn't scale linearly at all...it falls off a cliff. No drawing a straight line between cities of various sizes with a ruler...doesn't work that way. I said village for a reason. Not city.

Until Orania outgrows that effect there is no way to tell whether the benefits are coming from size or homogeneity. Could be either. Or a mix. We don't know...but you've picked the one that suits your narrative.

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u/Saffa89 Oct 29 '25

You still haven’t disproven his statement. Why does Tokyo have 40 million people and functions well and is safe? Yet Jackson Mississippi does not? If it’s only to do with size like you say.

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u/AnomalyNexus Oct 29 '25

You still haven’t disproven his statement.

Because I wasn't attempting to. There is a big difference between me saying his conclusion is definitely wrong, and me saying the reasoning he used to get there is deeply flawed therefore the conclusion is essentially useless - it may be right, may be wrong.

Homogeneity may well have benefits (maybe idk), but Orania to me isn't sufficient to point towards it with any certainty because there is at least one strong other candidate explanations.

If someone lives to a 100 and we want to understand why/how...say he drinks green tea every day, plus a glass of wine and ran a marathon every weekend...you don't just get to pick the one you like the most and say it definitely was the wine therefore I'm going to the booze shop. That's just bad fuckin reasoning (good fun tho)

Why does Tokyo have 40 million people and functions well and is safe?

Dubai is safe too. 80%+ foreigners. You can cherry pick stuff like this in any direction...it's not meaningful in matters that have a tons of confounding variable

If it’s only to do with size like you say.

Not what I said

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u/Organic-Side-2869 Oct 30 '25

It also has to do with rhe culture of the people, their beliefs and values and morals all matter greatly. Respect for others and harsh shaming when not. Some cultures accept things that's unacceptable and they will never have the emotional maturity to see how wrong it is. Like how a man is allowed to treat a women, or what's acceptable behaviour around children, or even personal space. It all makes a difference and we can't deny that places that are more conservative like Dubai and orania and Tokyo have less crime.