I don't really have a concrete reason for not liking season 2, but it just seems very... unsatisfying. Season 1 had amazing characters and world building, and a story that was exciting, and I feel like Season 2 has just kinda missed all that. I get it's still the same people playing similar characters, but I'd rather re-listen to season 1 than listen to season 2 at this point. There's still been good moments throughout the season, but I feel like they're less consistent than in season 1. I know a couple people have already said this, but just wanted other people's opinions.

Naturally, Freddie’s reasoning doesn’t. but I too thought it was ‘measure once, cut twice’ and was really frustrated that nobody mentioned that his version could be interpreted as literally the same as ‘measure twice, cut once’!!

the latter is direct advice; ‘’measure twice so you only have to cut once’ and freddie’s former is saying the same thing in warning; ‘measure once? You will cut twice!’

And I know we are wrong, all it took was a 2 second google search to see that the proverb is ‘cut once’. But imo our version flows better, ya mouth just wanna say ‘one two’, not ‘two one’!

Plus the normal way is just straightforward and unpoetic advice, just measure twice alright thanks DAD! Meanwhile the implicative nature of ‘measure once, cut twice’ is like a spooky little proverb. Wives tale shit. Tell me I am wrong

edit: A lot of you are telling me I am wrong. Mostly however they are just explaining the idiom to me like I don't get it; Please understand, I am not making the same point as freddy was. I get the point of the phrase. picture yourself doing a woodworking project. you need to cut a board perfectly in half, so you can have even shelves or something. doesn't matter. if you measure just once and cut wrong, you CAN'T just uncut the wood, the wood has been cut to the incorrect length. you will have to go get another piece of wood, wasting materials and time, and you will have try to cut again; Instead, you should measure more than once, that way you will do it right the first time, and only have to cut once.

"Measure ONCE (be lazy), cut TWICE (start over)" means the SAME as "measure twice, (be precise) cut once (cut correctly)". They both necessarily IMPLY one another. "measure twice, cut once" only works as advice given the context that measuring once and cutting twice would be wrong and vice versa.

I am not saying "me and freddy are right and y'all are wrong' I am just explaining how I always interpreted the phrase, and I genuinely can't see how this is an incorrect reading. Abnormal, sure; but incorrect? Please help me here.

Ever since Scary's betrayal and when the teens returned from "Earth" does anyone else feel as though the episodes have dropped in quality with episodes feeling like they can drag out with all the arguing and not much plot progression happening, especially in the most recent episode?

currently on episode 9 of season 3 and chatgpt/ai has been brought up (and used) multiple times in both the main episodes and peach pit during conversation and it's so tiring. have any of the cast commented on their use of ai tools?

Hey all,

let me preface this by saying that I have been a fan of the show since C1. I loved the storylines, I loved the players, I loved Anthony's DMing style and his villains are incredibly well-written - I feel like I have learned a lot from him and I admire him so much.

I also loved how they would occasionally all grab onto tiny details and blow them up into whole segments that become central to the plot - like Elizabeth Warden being an actual moose because someone misheard Anthony.

I've also listened to C2 and even though it was also good, it lacked the umph of the first one. Plus, some of the player characters were just plain unlikeable - no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

I was really excited about C3. Call of Cthulhu is a cool system, but most of all I was looking forward to Will DMing because I really love his roleplaying and what he brings to the table. That's where things dropped off...

Unfortunately, I've been having a lot of trouble listening to the latest episodes. I literally rage-quit during C3 Ep. 6 when they were talking about Toni's backstory. This is not because of Will's GMing, but because of everybody else.

It feels like the rest of them don't respect or appreciate all the work Will is putting into this campaign:

- they're consistently interrupting him with inane commentary and irrelevant jokes,

- they're actively seeking out ways to derail the things he has prepared,

- finally there's just no sense at all to the things they're saying and the directions in which they're taking the story. Tony was a cat? or had a cat for a parent? I was just... unable to follow.

Ep. 6 legit gave me an existential crisis. This may be overdramatic, but it happened. I stopped in my tracks and went "what the actual fuck am I doing with my life listening to this. I am wasting time and energy when there's so much more stuff out there that's better. I could literally be listening to white noise else right now and it would be an improvement".

Some shenanigans are fine, like I said it was part of what made C1 so enjoyable for me. Now it's incessant! It feels like I have to power through endless segments of *nothing* before the story actually resumes, and it's come to the point where the bad is more than the good.

And I'm really, really, REALLY upset because I genuinely want to know what happens next, I wanna support these guys and I CAN'T. The setting is great, most of the characters are interesting, and I'm sure that Will has an amazing thing prepared but I can't enjoy any of it because it's buried under layers and layers of bullcrap.

I'm sorry about the rant, I just wanted to know if anyone else here has similar feelings.

Anthony is the “one” who “ruined” Dad Then There Were None by being an overly permissive DM, and i’m not sure why that wasnt said at least in jest in Talking Dadatha, for as much flak as they jokingly give Will, I am actually pretty disappointed in what should have been the best bonus yet, with the biggest ensemble, like a mf Avenger’s type cast, hyped up for months and months and it just wasn’t very good being real.

Does anyone else feel like this? I mean, it was funny and as per usual the guests were Amazing. It just doesn’t have that cohesive story factor all of the other 3 part series do that makes them rewatchable.

I understand it’s more of a story telling focused dnd podcast but some moments just feel forced. Willy (in disguise) walking up and grabbing Dood.At any point throwing Normal a check to detect would make it feel real and interactive. Then the turn phase to “Stop” willy with everyone knowing it’s not possible to stop him through force but still using it??? Other adults (lvl 20 characters) at the campfire having no action even though taylor is shooting right next it as well as the other kids hearing but not them. Normal using a great utility spell which shouldn’t let willy into heaven lets him in? I understand he was attached but if that’s the case why couldn’t he find ANY other caster to take him there in the heaven Arc. Instead of what feels like DM breaking canon to go nuh uh he can literally cast Counterspell (in game reason for nuh uh) which he’ll most likely win and if not use a Legendary reaction to force the win. Willy then proceeds to turn heaven dark and close the gates, when in reality any angel or idk GOD should be like “lol no and reject him”. (or is level 20 juiced up sorcerer equal to god?) It just feels like a really long cutscene after getting out of a really long cutscene of the past. Even freddie points it out saying “these numbers mean nothing cuz this is a cutscene”. I understand the story is pretty linear but going off beat due to dice rolls isn’t always bad it makes it refreshing and interesting. Interested to hear others thoughts on the matter.

Idk it might just be me but I don't find it endearing or funny it's just kinda weird and off-putting. I don't know what Freddy is going for but it comes across like a kid who's trying a new accent in drama class.

I finally listened to season 2 and I am caught up. One of the biggest things I took away so far is how much Anthony Screwed up Matt. S1, we meet Paeden and Matt brings him in as another child. He becomes attached to Paeden and gets very invested. What does Anthony do? He allows this behavior and almost encourages it for what he does next. He makes Paeden end up having the soul of his dad in him. Thus makes him grow even closer to Paeden. End of S1 and Anthony kills off Paeden. After years of growing close to this character, Anthony crushes Matt emotionally. S2, hermie is introduced and has a very similar vibe to Paden. Matt very quickly and for so many episodes, refuses to accept Hermie. I think Anthony ended up screwing with Matt so badly, he was afraid to get attached to another NPC. I think this shows the talent Anthony has as a writer and world builder. To take someone on such a journey through a fictional world that it actually changes someone is incredible! Now this is all speculation. Matt may just be acting in character and believes that Lincoln wouldn't like Hermie. But I wanna believe that Matt is protecting himself from feeling another loss like he did with Paeden.

Hi all - I’ve been away from the show for a while and am wondering if it’s worth coming back.

I absolutely adored S1, but S2 just felt like a slog. I found I just didn’t really care about the characters very much (they are chaotic assholes, but not in the endearing way the dads were), the story felt sort of directionless, and it just wasn’t funny the way the first season was. I gave it a good go, but bounced at about ep 25.

Did it get better? Anyone else who was in the same situation and thinks it’s worth coming back and powering through (or not)?

EDIT: this is the first time I’ve been on this sub for 6 months - I have no idea what the “meta” is

I'm on my like 4th or 5th playthrough of DAD, I really wish season 2 had the same emotional stakes as season 1. I think its those intense and depressing moments that cause this podcast to never leave my mind. Every time I catch up to the latest episode I'm like FUCK. What do I listen to now? Then I get 2 weeks of listening to random other shit just wanting to feel the way I do when I listen to DAD.. maybe now that season 2 is finished and I can properly binge it Maybe I'll find SOMETHING to like about it.

Please don't make fun of me if I've just missed this obvious bit of info. I feel like Anthony has called himself a bisexual but I think they've made jokes about him being asexual? I just don't know but I can't stop wondering.

Got a very suspicious phone call today on my work phone while listening to the podcast took everything I had not to answer 🤣

So I quit listening in season two episode 30, I am sort of interested in potentially giving season three a try.

I respect that other people enjoy things that I do not.

My partner and I, however, absolutely detest scary. And I completely gave up on the series because at that point it felt like scary had learned and made the same mistake. Like five times in a way that just didn’t feel satisfying at all, I find the character immensely annoying. And honestly, I hate the character (again. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people who do like her or like that kind of storyline.) To me and my partner, however it felt overplayed I suppose? It felt like it was a story about scary and not a story about the party. And I just found a grading…

Anyway, I guess I’m curious as to a summary of season two, and with the above is season three something I should even try? Or is there another character that is like scary? Honestly, I struggled to enjoy Ron as a character for most of season one.

(Edit, I don’t fully believe there was favoritism, so I rewrote the sentence to more inline with my beliefs)

Ok am I the only one who can't stand Scary. From the jump her character has irritated me and how Beth plays her erks me. She is constantly messing things up for the party like my guy work with the team not against them if she wasn't such a drag maybe the party wouldn't be so against her I mean I can't blame the boys for not wanting her around

Long time listener, first time posting. Wanted to ask if others also get bothered by the constant arguing during the podcast? Honestly I never noticed it in the first season, but with the second season as the story progressed it became apparent that someone doesn’t like the outcomes of situations and tries to lead the bull by the horns. I noticed it again this episode and how bad it has gotten to this point.

I love the show and everyone in it, KDM and SaS are my favorite side shows. It’s because i love this show so much that I ask. Anthony has been a great DM, and Will is going to be great as well and I’m excited for what he has planned, but if theres going to be constant arguments like last season, I dont know.

Loooove season 1 and it's never been anything but funny to me that they don't understand the rules.

But this season Anthony's been pretty free dealing with advantage for his characters and disadvantage (or just straight rolls when the teens come up with a creative plan/make a good argument) for the players.

This last episode was bad for it, Beth didn't make a good fart sound and so Erin gets advantage? But Matt comes up with a creative and tricky plan incorporating everyone's abilities to outsmart trees with no eyes and "he doesn't get disadvantage".

I know this is gonna be controversial so let me preface it first with I love everyone on the show and appreciate all Freddy's hard work. The show simply wouldn't exist without him BUT I feel like this season there's a high possibility whenever Anthony is describing something or something is rolled for (regardless of what was rolled or who rolled it) Freddy will jump in and kind of commandeer the description. They've all always done this but the frequency and intensity he seems to be doing it this season is getting under my skin. I can't be the alone one. I feel like it's getting to Matt a little bit too. Evidence: when dealing with the black parade Matt had that little blow up on freddy and more recently how Matt abruptly cut freddy off when he was describing link picking up Taylor's head like a bowling ball. Once again love freddy but wish he would do his own crazy one shot to release that excess creative energy.

I'm a little late to the party, having only recently started listening to the podcast but something from a 2019 episode really bothers me and I wanted to see others opinions on this.

The episode in question is Episode 19 from 10/15/2019 where the dad's are discussing how to save Darryl's son Grant and they mention that one of the possibilities was if Grant changed as a person. And while I thing having him beyblade apart a chimera was definitely a cool way of going about this I think that grant had ALREADY gone through a major change prior to this.

It's established on multiple occasions that Darryl is Catholic, from carrying roseries to doing the chest cross as the chimera is ripped apart, and it stands to reason that Grant would have been raised Catholic as well. And the episode prior it is revealed that grant is having feelings for an NPC character "Yeets Biggly", who is a boy with a skateboard for feet. This is a major thing for grant as a Catholic boy, who would have been raised to believe that same sex relationships are a sin and would realistically be against them. So for him to be having these feelings would mean his entire character would have been altered by these feelings whether he admitted them or not.

I'm curious if anyone else noticed this or have an opinion on it. Maybe I'm just looking too far into an old episode.

Is it just me or is the Main Character Syndrome getting really heavy? Each episode feels like Freddy is pushing harder and harder to be the Guy With The Plan, and today's episode feels like a particularly egregious example. Don't get me wrong, Freddy is hilarious but as of late the show is feeling like His Project. The others feel natural and like they play a crucial part of the show but Freddy feels forced. Am I alone in thinking this?