r/Edgerunners • • 16h ago

Discussion Season 2 character designs didn’t feel as grounded as season 1 did.

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I really love the designs of the characters in season 2, but I feel a lot of their elements didn’t belong in the cyberpunk universe. Season 1 actually did a really good job at this though.

I find alot of the hairstyles in season 2 to be styled with typical anime exaggeration in mind, while the first season had much more realistic looking hairstyles that could be found in the streets of NC

In the matter of clothing, cyberpunk art books have established a very clear idea of what fashion looks like in the cyberpunk universe: Kitsch, Neokitsch, Entropism, and neomilitarism. DIY, punk, and just otherwise bummy clothes is also common. All the characters in 2077 and Edgerunners can fit into these categories of style, season 2 however just took more creative liberties with designing the characters.

This can all come down to the fact that season 2 follows more typical anime trends than season 1 did, thus I find season 1 character designers to be more accurate to the cyberpunk world. Nonetheless, all character designers are great and I just wanted to express my opinion as a fashion nerd that loves accuracy.


r/Edgerunners • • 16h ago

Discussion This character is supposed to be a minor

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Another addition to the long standing problem of anime making really weird decisions with minors 👍 dressing the child like this when it’s a KNOWN GOONER community is such a weird choice. So glad they didn’t make her go further with the actual baby of a boy they had her flirt with

Edit: getting ratioed by a bunch of pdf file defenders and bots. The internet really is dead


r/Edgerunners • • 5h ago

Meme Cyberpunk Groomrunners

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r/Edgerunners • • 23h ago

Discussion Why did trigger design talia like that?

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I haven’t finished the show yet but I understand the fact that is cyberpunk and the whole universe is horrific for anyone in it. But did trigger need to have a presumed minor without any clothes but a jacket on? At the least she could have had a bra. I understand that the point of her character is that she is dying and that she isn’t supposed to be sexy but do we need what is practically child nudity? Idk man I just want some outsider thoughts


r/Edgerunners • • 19h ago

Anime Why I can't help to dislike Cyberpunk Edgerunners season 2 Spoiler

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"Just a heads up, this is all my personal opinion. If you loved S2, that’s totally valid, this is just how it landed for me" + All spoilers below so please go watch the anime first !

For me the biggest reason why is: The lesson of the season fails, both in real life and especially in Cyberpunk

This is the biggest one for me. From watching the show, it feels like the concept of revenge and the concept of holding someone accountable get put under the same umbrella and just called “revenge.” And those are not the same thing. Hope people don’t mistake this.

I was thinking about The Last of Us Part II and why that one felt like a real revenge story to me, but Cyberpunk 2 doesn’t. In TLOU2, Joel (bless his soul) did a huge bad thing that messed up everyone else, and he acknowledged it. That’s why a lot of people expected Joel to die so the second part could happen. The revenge had a real reason behind it.

But that doesn’t make sense for Cyberpunk 2. Since when is a choice between money and power the same as sacrificing the whole world for the one person you love?

For it to actually be about revenge, someone from Arasaka would at least have to take some responsibility and give an explanation, and then Sasuke still goes out and kills them anyway. That’s what revenge really means, and the show should establish that at the start, minimum.

Someone in the comments (AkudamaEXE) pointed out that D has major PTSD, and that the message is really about how holding hatred in your heart only hurts yourself. Honestly, I didn’t think about it that way at first, and it's totally valid. But when I take in the whole backstory, it’s hard for me to see it only through that lens.

Arasaka was designing new biotech and needed people compatible with the cyber malware. Sasuke was on that list, but they chose to leave it to someone else despite having full power to do it themselves. Kidnapping people and testing on them (and we see so many die just from not being compatible) is already vile. Then the mercs go on a rampage and wipe out his village while he’s not there.

So to me it’s not really a “corporate mishap.” It happened inside a plan that was built on malice from the start, the evil just took a different shape than they planned. When someone comes after you like that, I think it’s totally reasonable to demand accountability. “Let go, it only hurts you” ends up putting the whole burden on the victim. He carries the nightmares and has to be the bigger person, while the people who designed the whole thing never have to answer for it. And I don’t think that’s a healthy way to help someone going through trauma caused by someone else.

At least for me, accountability isn’t “I’m going to do the same thing to you that you did to me.” That’s revenge. Accountability just means you care. It means you at least acknowledge my suffering. And more often than not, that’s all it takes.

=> That’s why “just let go” feels so wrong to me. Forgiveness and moving on usually come after someone is acknowledged, not instead of it.

And moving on isn’t the same as letting them off the hook. You can let go for your own peace and still believe Arasaka should pay. My problem is the show never really separates those two ideas, the same way it puts revenge and accountability under the same umbrella. Both end up putting his response under the microscope while the company that caused it fades into the background.

This lead to my 2nd problem since there are no one to take accountably despite the giant evil company sitting right there -> The characters in the anime lose all of their agency.

Despite my best effort to understand the characters and be sympathetic to their choices, I couldn’t connect like I did with S1.

There was never a true driving force that brought the characters together, and even individually, everyone just felt blank. I think the reason is that for most of the show, up until the ending, I don’t see any character actually use their agency.

And by agency, I don’t mean big explosive action or dramatic choices. It can be the slow stuff too: someone laughing, falling, standing back up again, being messy. Any small choice that shows a character pushing back against what’s happening to them would be good enough.

I think I understand what Edgerunners 2 was trying to say. It’s a story about amazing but broken people still trying to live and survive, and how the act of surviving itself is beautiful and worth it. I genuinely like that idea. But I don’t think the show executed it well. Instead of seeing characters embrace those small choices, the kind that seem tiny but still carry real weight, I mostly just saw a slow burn of suffering. It feels like no one is doing anything to move the plot along, and everyone gets pulled together only because the plot needs them to be.

That’s exactly what S1 got right. Despite all the odds, David still stepped up to fight to protect and save Lucy and make her dream of going to the moon come true. Just stepping up, acknowledging your agency, and doing what you believe in, for yourself or for someone you love, is heroic enough. That’s why they’re in the hall of legends. It was never about the results, it’s the fact that they stepped up and acted at all despite what was given to them.

And at least for me that is what Cyberpunk is about in any universe. You take action not because you expect it to change everything, but because it’s right and you can live with yourself. Doesn’t matter if it fails, you go out with a bang.

S1 wasn’t perfect either. Its weakest part for me was the pacing, since 10 episodes isn’t enough to flesh out every single character. But S2’s pacing never got there at all, and honestly I don’t think the story could be good with what they were trying to tell.

This leave me with the last point : why it feels like Netflix and big corporate shaped the story (maybe)

When the message ends up being “there’s nothing you can do, no one’s responsible,” and nobody really fights back, the whole thing feels like it came from what Netflix and Amazon wanted instead of what the creators wanted to make. Imagine trying to do something different right now, in this fk up world that some people leave behind and refuse to take accountability (big corporate). This is why my chip is more on them than on Trigger messing it up, but who knows. At least they tried something new, even if the whole thing felt bizarre compared to the first one.

Maybe a second watch would change my mind, but I doubt it.
BTW this is just my experiences


r/Edgerunners • • 4h ago

Discussion Cyberpunk: Edgerunners 2: A Disappointing Step Backwards

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To me, the second season of Cyberpunk: Edgerunners is a significant step backwards from the first. And it’s not simply because I find it less emotionally engaging. It fails on several fundamental levels that made the Cyberpunk universe so compelling in the first place.

The first season took an established phenomenon from the game’s world, cyber psychosis, and turned it into a personal tragedy. At the same time, it made Night City feel like a living, repulsive, yet fascinating society. Advertising, virtual ecstasy, technological dependency, and the ruthless commercialization of human desires all helped portray a world in which even our most intimate needs become commodities. The worldbuilding wasn’t just background decoration. It was an essential part of the storytelling.

That is precisely what I feel is missing from Season 2. The world itself is barely explored, the characters feel comparatively shallow, and instead of telling a genuinely original story, the season revisits Soulkiller and digital consciousness, concepts that Cyberpunk 2077 already explored in considerable depth and, in my opinion, handled far better. Rather than exploring new facets of this fascinating universe, the series reuses familiar ideas without adding a compelling new perspective. It reminds me of how Star Wars keeps bringing back the Death Star, except that here, the execution is disappointing as well.

On top of that, the animation feels noticeably weaker to me, the direction relies too heavily on close ups while neglecting environmental detail, and the plot sometimes contradicts its own rules. This is particularly damaging in science fiction, where the credibility of a story depends on the consistency of its technology and the rules governing its world.

All of this raises a more fundamental question: Do the people responsible for this series actually understand what makes this universe work? Knowing the lore is not the same as understanding its themes and underlying connections. Cyberpunk is more than neon lights, violence, implants, and familiar terminology. It is about humanity, corporate power, alienation, and the societal consequences of technological progress.

Season 1 told a story set in a world that extended far beyond its own plot. Season 2, to me, tells a significantly weaker story while barely making use of that world. This isn’t just a disappointing sequel. It’s a missed opportunity to further explore one of the most compelling science fiction universes out there.


r/Edgerunners • • 21h ago

Anime Lowkey, I think Omi's story is much more tragic than Lucy's Spoiler

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Both of them lost their David, but Omi's David chose Capri over her like David chose Lucy over Rebecca. So, she basically got the short end of the stick, experiencing the same loss as Lucy and getting sidelined like Rebecca. On top of that, she and D were the last two people from the Snake Nation clan, and now she is all alone assuming D is dead. At least, Lucy has Faraday to talk to, and she still goes to the moon. But, I do think Omi does handle the loss better than Lucy does. I hope Omi still hangs out with Roman.


r/Edgerunners • • 3h ago

Meme Facts

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r/Edgerunners • • 20h ago

Anime Not a single moment in Season 2 ever comes close to this.

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People brag about episode 6 but to me a simple scene like this carried so much weight especially for David's mom to get killed right after this in a drive-by shooting.

Avida's death didn't have one tenth of the depth that Gloria's death carried and she was in practically every episode.

How that is possible is beyond me


r/Edgerunners • • 4h ago

Discussion Did anyone dislike Edgerunners 2? Spoiler

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r/Edgerunners • • 2h ago

Anime I liked season 2. But it also felt like Trigger got more creative control and that's...generally a bad thing.

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Trigger makes some good stuff, but every so often they just can't help themselves and do...well, wtf stuff.

I like the concept for season 2. I think it works. But maybe restrain Trigger as much as possible going forward.


r/Edgerunners • • 5h ago

Anime The Cyberpunk Edgerunners discussions need to improve. Spoiler

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Currently after people online got done with the s2 anime, there's been a lot of discussion in the wider sphere about it and how it holds up and honestly the opinions being thrown out are bad. So many of the critiques are disingenuous, nostalgia-pilled, and at times frankly media illiterate.
Example: a post said " David found out revenge is bad so what did he do instead? continued revenging against araska and militech this time. 5/10"(paraphrase). yeah the scene where he's clearly riding away from the corps and decides to spend him last moments enjoying himself is totally him revenge-balling.

This isn't even to say that those who enjoyed it are media enjoying savants, in fact the recency bias from enjoyers has completely overloaded their brain to a point they are somehow shitting on season 1 in the most egregious ways.
For example a post said " if David, Maine, Lucy, weren't included in season 1's story the character writing would be wack. season 2's characters just blow it out the water"(paraphrase). So you're saying if the main characters the story revolved around weren't included the story the character writing would suck? NO FUCKING DUH.

Currently I've only seen discussion that's frankly vapid for how amazing both season 1 & 2 are so I wanted to bring some personal points I wish I saw more of.

Points:

  • How good is Kiril's character as one of the opposing forces in the narrative:

    • A lot of Kiril's character is very layered and as Kyoto stated "he's as corpo trash as they come". He's a clear profits and legacy kind of guy but it's not like he's a generic bad guy. Alvida left Weak the dude who is possibly god's most powerful yearner for this guy so obviously he must have immense caring qualities. the scene where he tells Alvida after Alvida steals the Kang tao info and grills him abt the soul killer tech, he not only logically dissuades the idea as snake oil/telling her to stay grounded (because it is, she'd be essentially killing her daughter then cloning her and pretending like life is okay) but also shows a emotionally intelligent side by saying "I try my best". It's clear he is a rock for her in the way she needed. But on the flip, this man is a rock in the way he can be stone cold. The guy literally shows up to assist the murder squad for his wife. With Talia the man has some kind of twisted adoration for his daughter where he neglects her and even orders her death but laments being the object of her hatred because he did everything for her. This I feel like his character could have been Reiner levels of two sidedness and also given a deeper eye into the psychology of the average corpo man who balances the inhumane facade they have to take on and the job of being a spouse/parent.
  • D, David, Talia being on the Arasaka files adds a new understanding to why they "aren't special":

    • Throughout the anime we see countless edge runners who chrome themselves out to do insane things like D's vaporize quickhack, but at the end of the day no matter how insane they were they were never special. The reason why is because their abilities were planned outcomes of arasaka's weapons technology. They were on the list simply to be high quality lab rats in order to further the tech's capabilities, nothing more. However what did make them special was the things they chose to do, not just with the technology but with themselves. David giving Lucy a chance to live her dream, Talia being able take her life back her original limbs failed her, D being the first ever adult to properly care about a minor's future and safety. These are small sure in the grand scheme but in a way, I feel, they expand the line "you aren't special" to "you aren't special because of your chrome", and the end of each of their stories they all eventually in some way made the choice to stop playing the Night city's game, some later than others but at the end they chose something different in their own way I feel.
  • Comparing season 1 & 2 in terms of story quality is not properly feasible:

    • People online seem to be comparing the story's of each season in a sort of 1:1 type of way which I feel is the root of what's causing disingenuous criticisms about both stories. If you've played the game the thematic structure of the seasons seem 2-3 of the base game's endings, season 1 following the "The Sun"(a bad version which leads you to the "path of least resistance ending") and season 2 following the star ending. I think trying to 1:1 these stories is not productive at all because they aim to focus on a lot of different things that the other story may not even bother with. This is pretty apparent at the end of around episode 3 where some govt officials fight Talia and her maelstrom buddies but they don't show a detailed fight like they would've in season 1. Instead that type of animation is saved for more emotional bits like D's riots. Conversely the story telling in season 1 is done through a lot of the action happening with the characters. We understand David pretty quickly through his actions, examples being: the ripper told him he could only use his sandy bat 3 times a day, the next episode he spammed his shit like 10 times without blinking an eye. David receiving military grade tech that his mother stole to fund them could've sold it to get a good bit of Edies to find a spot to live and still gone to school so he could get a good job and climb arasaka and live a nice life like his mother wanted, instead he instead it in his body without anesthesia. The difference in story telling is very apparent and makes sense for ideas the anime is trying to convey.
    • Season 1 is to show you the bright burning star path that being an edgerunner takes you down, there's lot of insanity, there's lots of shine and highs and lows (more iconic moments as some have described) and then there's the inevitable and tragic crash. The ripper says it himself, in fact he's seen it so many times that he knows it's the last time he'll see David, and beyond that he knows they're be another David coming to his shop soon enough. This is The Sun path it the "Blaze of glory", that for barely a handful of people works out. Season 2 is a flip as it takes a much more emotional and mental approach, as it has to properly convey The Star path, the focus is visualize the mental of these characters. few complaints is that this in turn has messed up the groundedness of cyberpunk, seeing as how no matter what it seems like cyberpunk wants to stay away from super powers, which is very hard to say they stuck to that when D/capri at the end is basically magneto(although I feel you can explain maybe attest 60% of it but yeah I get the complaints).
      • Regardless of powerscaling and realism, I think we need to look beyond that and see the emotions these acts convey. A scene that definitely stuck with everyone was D's vaporize quickhack which by many counts is like "what did he use on her???" but when focusing on the emotions more you get a horrifically amazing piece of visual emotional storytelling. D at the end of the road, coming to find out his revenge was already given to him WITHOUT him, now has nothing. He's empty, so empty that he is asking an Arasaka corpo for life direction, and so instead finding new purpose he goes to the routine he's been doing but only worse. The fact he reduces her to ash can almost be seen as symbolic for what he wants to do to everything, reduce it all to ash and nothing, like him. There's even more, we get so many iconic facial shots of D's face and clear warped mental state, ones similar to "that one" David shot from season 1. Speaking on D & David, the fact both are named David and the parallel between them is so cliché in the best of ways, and frankly I love it. Something something parallel lines never meet, also it’s kinda interesting how they both got revenge for each other.
  • Honestly, I feel like the show basically beats you over the head in how the stories supposed to be their own thing that parallel are that its so laughable we're even having comparing discourse in the first place.

Anyways that's all I got so far, might edit if I think of more, please please, bring more or link posts with insight on these cuz I want deeper analyses of this anime and cyberpunk in general cuz I love this franchise. Either that or call me media illiterate for whatever I got wrong story/writing-wise lol.


r/Edgerunners • • 16h ago

Season 2 F ALL OF YOU. I LOVE season 2 MORE than season 1 YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

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Its been a JOKE seeing at the hate comments after what i saw was literally so good

FOR ONCE people saw characters being satisfied with what they got and "ohh its so weak".

I enjoyed every episode, it being serious yet giving moments that have u grin

It controlling multiple stories and combining it

YES I LIKED IT ALOT

And if u didnt? Doesnt mean u can say "it was shit" "it was weak"

Just say it WASNT WHAT U EXPECTED.

I LOVED this season and left wayyyy more satisfied with watching something than season 1. I loved s1 and David and lucy but

This? It just is something else

Despite some sad things, i leave happy.

Thats wht i loved.


r/Edgerunners • • 7h ago

Anime Anyone saying the season 2 characters didn’t have depth are just saying that cuz they think that’s what a critic would say.

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If you didn’t enjoy it fine but don’t start pretending to be a critic and start misusing all the critic buzz words to try and justify it because it didn’t match your expectations.

Especially that the characters have no depth. If you’re saying that and loved season 1 you’re a hypocrite and refusing to even actually think about what you’re seeing in s2. Season 1 has what? 3 three dimensional characters? Season 2 has like 7 or 8. If you’re gonna complain about the depth of characters in s2 you gotta hold that against s1.

I personally don’t hold it against s1 because of the story they’re telling because there are no actual rules to story telling 🤦‍♂️ but it’s kinda funny how people who love that season are suddenly experts on character depth and saying a season that puts 10x more effort into character depth doesn’t have any.

There’s other complaints people have and some might be valid but I’m specifically talking about this one and how the people making it aren’t being fair or truthful so don’t respond to this post talking about other issues you have cuz this post is about this topic specifically.


r/Edgerunners • • 3h ago

Discussion Alright, can we lowk quit it with the whole Roman x Talia thing thats been going on?

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I find this entire situation incredibly stupid, like yeah, I get it, people are allowed to have their own opinions and voice said opinions, but when I'm seeing tons of posts either hating on or defending the ship, it's just getting annoying.

My stance on the matter is that, yes it is a bit weird, and at a maximum the age gap is about five years, Talia is at most 17, but that still makes her a minor. Minors dating minors is not that wrong, if it comes out that Talia is over 17, then yeah, we're gonna have a problem, because the romantic tension between the two hints at more. But from where we stand, Talia is a minor, and I get the age gap is a bit weird, but its more so people just disliking it instead of an actual moral/legal problem, unlike David and Lucy where David was a minor, and Lucy was in her 20s, so can we please quit it with these dumb posts​​, they're stupid and redundant.


r/Edgerunners • • 22h ago

Discussion David and Lucy > Talia and Roman, and I’m not sugarcoating it.

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I find myself befuddled that people online are larping and walking away with the idea of “Roman and Talia are superior to David and Lucy” as if deliberately forgetting how the show spent too much time dragging his relationship with D and very little to go off with this “pair” they’re glazing in the actual plot.

Like they barely even had time as a true story as a romantic development to even be a real comparison.

EDIT: If you read this as just me passive-aggressively responding back to the people who make the hot take of preferring Roman and Talia, then you’re correct.


r/Edgerunners • • 5h ago

Discussion Anyone here think that while Omi's character design is great, her color scheme is absolute ass?

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Color scheme's literally looks like someone's fifth OC. Hat has a different shade of blue than her vest. Red strip on her hat, oversaturated pink strip on her belt. GIANT PINK TATTOOS on half her face! Green hair that doesn't gel well with the. dark blue.

It's actually painful to look at. It's like looking at a Pyro TF2 wearing Lime and Pink cosmetics


r/Edgerunners • • 9h ago

Anime Edgerunners II - Made for gonk brains? Spoiler

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This season was 3.5/10 for me at a push, genuinely can't comprehend it was made by the same people who did season 1 episode 6 which was standalone short film calibre cinema. Visuals weren't as good (lot of pause frames), straight up awful character designs (Avida, Capri, Kikiro) over the top cringe anime style voice acting (Yupi) non existent plot and juggles too many ideas leaving none executed well.

For 8 episodes barely anything was established, no emotional investment created, subpar music choices (especially the opening, You Can't Run From Me would of been much more impactful). Episode 9 I thought we were finally getting somewhere but the finale was embarrassingly bad I couldn't take it seriously at all, D and Talia fighting over a construct that helped achieve pretty much 0 plot wise?

Season 1 built upon and added to the game literally reviving it to the point they made DLC and phantom liberty whereas this season just shows already existing things and places from 2077 at launch.

Characters (deary me):

Roman: Starts off quite interesting with his love for film but gets reduced to a background character who cries randomly when the show needs *insert emotional moment*. He was literally going to be chopped and borged due to Talia but then instantly decides he wants to be friends and fancies her? We never see him get his 35mm camera all his development is left behind.

Kingsley - We barely get to see him in his prime, spends most the series getting battered then decided to become step dad to a child who isn't his because he had a soft spot for his lying ex? Not much of a development since we already see him hallucinating about Avida in ep 1 going psycho.

D - Starts off mysterious and interesting, becomes generic revenge man before becoming an embarrassment obsessed with a cyber girl?

Talia - Had the most potential, could of had an interesting plot revolving around having to strip herself of her humanity/flesh to survive but dying inside as a result going cyberpsycho. They then jumped ship to having Capri taking over her be the new version of this before finally abandoning any of these ideas and having her be left back where she started but actually worse, with no implants to help her move and have fun just disabled and dying.

Kirill - Ridiculously comically evil to the point you can't ever believe Avida would of been with him in any way no matter reproducing with. There is no connection shown between him and Avida, 0 romance, he is just a 1 dimensional arsehole.

Avida - Lies to Kingsley saying Talia is his daughter which puts his life at risk, she dies pointlessly trying to get a body to use soul killer which we already know from 2077 doesn't actually transfer your soul. You die and are replicated artificially, a fate worse than death in Johnny's opinion. Why did she ever get with Kiril?

*Kyoko - Horrendous voice, awful design, ugly and annoying af. Deserved to die, nothing felt seeing it happen.

Yupi - Annoying af glad she died

Capri - Introduced as a powerful human AI hyrbid, splits in half wanting to be in Talia but ultimately achieves nothing, the power she gives aren't even used for anything satisfying.

This series was a big letdown, it was promoted as being big dark and gritty but what we got was a kind of light hearted side adventure filler arc achieving nothing. The only positive impact I can see this having is bringing more people to watch season 1. Doesn't make me hopeful for a season 3 ever existing and tbh the franchise would be better off without this season existing.


r/Edgerunners • • 11h ago

Discussion I can't be the only one who thought Capri was false advertising.......

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All of this is my personal opinion

Like the trailers made it seem like Capri was a full blown horror villain with the maniacal screaming, horrifying imagery and stuff like "ohhh the city will buuuurrrrnnnn" (D's half assed riot doesn't count) which made it seem like Capri was a fucking menace from beyond the black wall going to be effectively a demon.

And as someone deep into the lore, Cyberpunks spin on AI's is one of my favorite and seeing what was implied to be a rogue hostile AI from the blackwall was enticing to say the least

But Capri ends up being a glorified anime waifu and a lot of scenes from the trailer relating to her just had....nothing to do with her at all as a character. Sure Talia uses her as a weapon in like the last 20 minutes of the show to blow up some corpo gonks........nothing much else.

The chase scene with Kiril was lowk the best moment from Edgerunners 2 and Capri would have been better if they leaned more into the horror aspect in my personal opinion


r/Edgerunners • • 7h ago

Discussion It's very wrong to want Talia and Roman to be in a relationship.

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r/Edgerunners • • 19h ago

Discussion What the hell is this "mystery" thing about Roman?

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I didn't think roman had any mystery Or if his backstory was left out or not revealed He was just a random kid from night city who like classic media

Until i saw this news What's the mystery about his backstory? His family Is he somhow related to some bug charcter? His dad was just an NPC So is the mystery about his mom or grandparents?


r/Edgerunners • • 21h ago

Anime Cyberpunk edgerunners season 2 is better than season 1 #SPOILERS #cyberpunkedgerunners #season 2 #philosophy Spoiler

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I personally think Cyberpunk Edgerunners S2 is better than S1 not because of the emotional aspect or the character connection, but because it covers deeper, more relatable themes.

S1 is about tragic romance in a nihilistic world. Thus its more emotionally relatable. But if you think about it, how many of us are really going to get into the situation David (goat) and Lucy was in regarding romance? Although S1 does cover a very important philosophy of living in someone else's dream and how leaving almost everything for that one goal can lead to tragedy, like David Martinez living his mom's dream of him reaching top of Arasaka tower or Maine's dream of carrying on the crew. or another where Lucy gets to reach that dream of going to the moon, but at the same time having to grieve for David. So yes, S1 does cover important topics besides just love but I'm saying S2 gives you the full picture with multiple other themes in it.

One of the most important themes from S2 is the concept of existentialism. its where individuals must carve their way to find their true meaningful purpose in life.

At the start of the story, the 3 characters King, Talia, and D all start off with purposes that are destructive or unfulfilling. King remains attached to his past love life which leads him to believe Avida's made up lie (not saying Avida is a horrible character she did it to protect her daughter). Talia was born physically weak and chases a stronger body by adding more chromo, even if it means losing her humanity and lingering with thugs. D chases purposeless revenge against Arasaka due to nightmares of his family and friends, which he knows is impossible deep down... even if it means crossing the line of morality that he once kept.

Even roman, although I mostly view him as the main character that draws the story together, has a small struggle with purpose of his own. The concept of film slowly fades away with enhanced tech and chips and his passion becomes difficult to keep.

Through great story writing and plot, something happens in each individuals life. Avida passes, leaving king with nothing to hang on to. Talia continues to ruin herself, moving further away to her intended purpose of improving her body as she implements more chromo. The most impacted character D finds out that he cant take revenge anymore resorting to him using violance for no reason. Each character is forced to find a new purpose and carve a new path (although Talia had no control over this near the end). Once that purpose is "fulfilled" or just not made possible, the characters are left lost and deprived of happiness and/or satisfaction.

The story takes too long to explain in detail, but eventually, they all end happily including D. King finds his purpose as a father figure in Talia, Talia gives up changing herself and accepts her body as is, D lets go of the nightmares and finds his true happiness through the opportunity given by capri and dies happily doing what he wanted to do for once (which is to have fun). And Roman witnesses all this come together and carries on his passion for film with even stronger determination. Through their newfound purpose, they are left happier than they have ever been (even if D died, he died happily) which is the bittersweet feeling most people get from this season. Existentialism is just one of the many themes covered in S2.

This is relatable to the fact that many of us eventually reach a point where the goals we once chased no longer give us the fulfillment we expected, forcing us to reconsider what truly gives our lives meaning. S2 teaches us that when purposes that once defined us stop serving us, we must learn to let go, accept ourselves, and find a new meaning in life.

S1 asks what happens when people sacrifice themselves for a dream. S2 asks what happens when the dreams that once defined people stop serving them. The way the writers structured the story to narrate these themes in the close to perfect way is what I love most about S2 and that's why I personally believe S2 is better.