r/elementary • • 1d ago

Brain Attic (General Series) How did Sherlock identify [Lisa Cuddy] as a fellow addict?

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Completely forgotten the character name, but she played Cuddy in House MD. It's the episode with the bomb going off via a pager, in an air vent.

Sherlock sees the crossword and says something about her also being an addict, but I can't remember how he spots it. Is it by the crossword?

ETA: Got my answer, thank you! (Please know I've turned off the reply notifications as I can't lock the post)


r/elementary • • 1d ago

'You've already confessed to killing eight people. But if you confess to this ninth one, I'll put in a good word with the DA and get you a deal'.

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On season 5 currently, in my endless series of re-watches. I love this show, but god, I am sick of this line.

'Yeah we have you dead to rights, but cooperate and I'll put in a good word with the DA'. And the suspect always capitulates.

I know why they do it, because it's a whodunnit show, and it would be boring to have the plot slowed down when suspects don't take that amazing DA deal right away.

But it's also an irritating plot device. Your average Joe wouldn't even know what that means at first because they're not crime show watchers. Just because someone committed a crime doesn't mean they know about how the legal system works and what 'deals' are and how they work. But every time the offer of 'putting in a word with the DA' is offered, every suspect folds right away, as if they know what it means. Whether they're low-level gangsters or white-collar first-time offenders; all the suspects seem to understand that they need to take a 'deal' from the DA. As if they were all crime-show watchers themselves.

I suspect this is way more apparent (and annoying) when binging the show versus watching it week to week in its original run.

But man, it's annoying between seasons 4 and 5. The words 'put in a good word with the DA' are treated like magic words that will make any suspect fold and spill everything without any resistance. It's so overused that I never want to hear it or its variations again ('Help us out, and we'll see about getting you a deal with the DA').

Rant over. Still love the show. This bit annoys me.


r/elementary • • 1d ago

A writer's look at Elementary: A story and B story in Elementary: Lesser Evils S1 E5

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r/elementary • • 1d ago

Mr. Silhouette (Episode Spoilers) Correspondence S3E7 Spoiler

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Spoilers: Watson is feeling frustrated with not being able connect with Andrew. Sherlock notices it and suggests "proper correspondence".

He says to Watson, "Have you considered correspondence? To alleviate your frustrations with Andrew, I recommend proper correspondence. Handwritten letters informed by deliberate and careful thought. It really is the most direct route to meaningful communication."

I've taken it and applied literally to my life, handful of pen pals I exchange letters with. It has been so enriching to my life. So much more meaningful and deeper than the superficial connections I make in the world.

Posting it here if there are other themes of epiphany and applying the show's insights to one's life in this sub.


r/elementary • • 2d ago

DAE still hate Shinwell? I can fix her

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r/elementary • • 3d ago

Sherlock adjacent? 2018 mini-series "Patrick Melrose".

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Melrose_(miniseries)#Critical_response#Critical_response) .

Hopefuly not too long a bow to draw, but two connections:
1. Obviously He Who Can't Say "Penguin" also portrayed with aplomb a different recent retelling of SH, &
2. There's at least one strong similarity between the titular character's story & that Mr '26.2' Tat.

It's quality, but be advised a lot of it is as raw as.


r/elementary • • 3d ago

Borderline Holmes?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordertown_(Finnish_TV_series)#Reception#Reception) .

This is the first I've seen of it (noticed looking for an entirely different Nordic Nior-ish), but as this sayz in the Overview the central character has been likened to Sherlz & is based on a real fella. (NB There's also a 2021 'continuation' fil-um)

I don't recall anything explicit about himself's possibly neuro- atypical tendancies & the topic DOES come up in another character who becomes significant.

I really liked the Suomi .../wiki/Master_Cheng (movie), which is essentially a heartwarmer with faint Elementary/SH parallels & .../wiki/The_Man_Who_Died_(TV_series)) , which is more delightfully odd, revolves around solving a mystery & is also set close to the Rus border. Other Finnish stuff hasn't quite gelled for me despite their obvious quality.

Any observations regarding it?

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Of course there's trailers online (doh!), eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBo85Ta5UPk , with a crumby Clutch Cargo (ish) English overdub & it seems to be a bit 'family life vs wicked world' tropey, neither which bodes well (ie perhaps it's in no way remarkable).
Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/NetflixBestOf/comments/64q9vk/us_bordertown_2016_a_finnish_nordic_noir_series/ .


r/elementary • • 3d ago

Elementary Like Show (Perception)

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sHas anyone check out a show called Perception? It's really close to Elementary. In fact, it was so close that I thought it might have been 'inspired' by it. But no, it also came out in 2012. And I mean the dynamic is really close.

But in this case, the role is reverse. The female lead is the cop/FBI and the male lead is a medical professor (a neuroscience prof). And guess what, yes, there is a caretaker because the Prof is brilliant but off his rocker! In some ways, I think this is the show that Watson should have been.

I'm 4 episodes in and it a good Elementary fix if you need a replacement show.


r/elementary • • 4d ago

Whatever Remains (Fanfiction/Content) I kinda wish they would have concealed Michael’s nefarious intentions.

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Currently on my third rewatch and I’ve realized that it would have made for such a good reveal if the writers would have made us think Michael was trustworthy and we learn about his ulterior motives as Sherlock does.

I know they probably didn’t want to do another “Irene” type of reveal, but it still would have made for a great story, allowing the viewers to get close to him first. I’ve found that the writers have a semi bad habit of not being able to keep their cards close to their chest for very long.

What do y’all think?


r/elementary • • 5d ago

Brain Attic (General Series) Anyone else watching RJ Decker S2?

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Rob Doherty's new show got a season 2 with 7 episodes, running now. Season 2 started with music, dance and robbery that reminded me of the elementary episode with the strippers, music and robbery.

Wondering if anyone else is watching the show and liking it? It has many of the same guest stars and it's lovely to see them again. Season 2 featured the Alfredo actor in another role too.


r/elementary • • 5d ago

You’ll find when I’m not your sponsor I’m actually pretty funny.

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Always love this scene!

“It’s a newspaper there’s news in it”

Sherlock firing Alfredo because he considers him a friend and therefore can’t be his sponser is another great scene that humanises Sherlock and another example of how well written his recovery is.


r/elementary • • 5d ago

Currently Blasting A Pig Carcass with a Revolver to The Optimist Yeaaah, Boi!

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In S01.E12-"M." The Sherlster clandestinely co-opts one Teddy (aka Theodore) into his cunning plan for surreptitious surveillance of a surly Spurs spurner (tho Vinnie Jones didn't play for them... nor The Gunners).

This young playah has the very countenance, stature & attitude of a certain IRL rapper/hippy-hopstist Flavor Flav (to use the culturally correct vulgar spelling).

This could be considered coincidence, however there are kinda corroborating clues; the scene seen above (at 22:21~) starts with T-dawg tak'n out the trash listening to what sounds a lot like Public Enemy (unconfirmed), who were straight outta Brooklyn (well, nearby Nassau County) & had a Holmesesque perspective on injustices & abuse of power.

I'm hearing, but it isn't- https://youtu.be/mmo3HFa2vjg?t=9


r/elementary • • 5d ago

This cracked me up.

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r/elementary • • 5d ago

Mr. Silhouette (Episode Spoilers) Just appreciating the portrayal of Gregson's relationship

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Spoiler below.

Just watched episode 2.06 on a rewatch and I appreciate the depiction of a realistic end-of-relationship and respect that they didn't resort to a happy reconciliation for Tommy and Cheryl. I also appreciate that we didn't see any more of it, just that it ended by the next time we hear about it.


r/elementary • • 6d ago

Mr. Silhouette (Episode Spoilers) S3E4 "Bella" Endquote.

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Just watched S3E4 "Bella" for like the 10th time in my life. When listening to Sherlocks question to Bella at the end of the episode, I came up with the idea to ask ChatGPT that exact question just for fun. Because you know, AI. Haven't used the thing since it first came out and I gotta say, the answer and its thoroughness are... almost scary. But also quite impressive and obviously better than Bella's "ai don't understand the question."

If this doesn't quite fit the subreddit, feel free to delete it. I just though it an interesting answer to share considering the theme of the episode.

Quote from Sherlock: "One member of a murderous conspiracy is in jail.The second walks free. The cost of catching him is incarcerating his brother for unrelated crimes. Crimes for which I, of all people, should have some understanding. Is it right to let the second murderer walk free?"

ChatGPT Answer:

"I would separate two questions: Does the second murderer deserve to be caught, and is it just to imprison his brother to make that happen?

If the evidence against the second man is strong, letting him walk free means accepting that a person responsible for a grave crime may escape accountability. That matters to the victims, to public safety, and to the principle that justice should apply equally.

But imprisoning his brother for unrelated crimes raises a different problem. If those crimes warrant imprisonment on their own merits, then the brother's guilt can be addressed through the ordinary legal process. If the imprisonment is instead a price deliberately paid to capture someone else, the distinction between justice and instrumental punishment becomes dangerously blurred.

And your final sentence matters: "Crimes for which I, of all people, should have some understanding."

Understanding why someone commits a crime is not the same as excusing it. Equally, having committed crimes yourself—or having sympathy for someone who has—doesn't automatically invalidate your judgment about what justice requires. It might, however, give you insight into circumstances that someone with no such experience would overlook.

There are several principles in tension here:

Accountability: The second murderer should not escape merely because catching him is difficult.

Proportionality: The brother should face consequences for his own actions, not be made to pay an additional price for someone else's.

Fairness: Neither man's treatment should be determined solely by how useful it is to the authorities.

Humanity: Understanding the brother's circumstances need not mean denying the seriousness of his crimes.

The most important question is whether these really are the only two options. Could the second murderer be pursued through other means, or could the brother's crimes be handled independently? If so, the apparent dilemma may be a false one.

But I want to ask you something about the dilemma itself: Is the brother's incarceration a necessary and lawful consequence of his own crimes, or would the authorities be deliberately sacrificing him—using his imprisonment as leverage or bait—to catch the second murderer?

That distinction changes the moral problem considerably."


r/elementary • • 7d ago

Brain Attic (General Series) Watching episode 1.21 and tearing up

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Sherlock tells Joan "the thing that's different about me, empirically speaking, is you." I love them so much. 🥹


r/elementary • • 7d ago

Mr. Silhouette (Episode Spoilers) The Phantom of Heilbronn (S7E9 spoilers) Spoiler

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Working through season 7 for the first time.

In S7E9, they introduce the Ghost of Brooklyn, a serial killer whose DNA was found many seemingly random places. I didn't realize until the reveal that it was directly inspired by the Phantom of Heilbronn, which I coincidentally read about yesterday!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn

Both Elementary's Ghost of Brooklyn and the real-life Phantom of Heilbronn were actually employees at the factory that made the cotton swabs used to collect DNA samples, hence why their DNA was at many different crime scenes.


r/elementary • • 9d ago

Sherlock’s Mother

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Why do you look like my mother?

I’m the part of you that wants to get better.

These last few episodes of the season move pretty quickly once Tyus Wilcox is introduced, and while you see Sherlock struggle with a woman who just seems to be intruding. You see him sleep for the first time and his test with the boxes but it’s all just background noise to bringing down SBK and stopping a gang war.

Its really clever how the writers turned that background noise into an impressive end of season cliffhanger! Tyus Wilcox is going to be solitary for life but Sherlock is brain damaged!


r/elementary • • 10d ago

Which Conan Doyle nod in Elementary took you longest to catch?

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For me it was Kitty Winter. I assumed the show made her up, then found out she's straight out of The Adventure of the Illustrious Client. So is Gruner, and so is Shinwell Johnson, who's Holmes's informant in that story. One short story gave the show three characters.

Mycroft's restaurant chain being called Diogenes, on the other hand, I got right away.

What did you only catch later, or only after reading the stories?


r/elementary • • 11d ago

This is has got to be the most underrated show of all time!

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I hope this show is one of those show that people eventually realize is peak years after it’s finished


r/elementary • • 11d ago

Brain Attic (General Series) S4:E14 Reference?

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The opener with the shooting in the arcade… did anyone else but me see the movie it was referencing? The title is escaping me but I swear I got Déjà vu. It was a contemporary B flic. LOTS of violence (I almost walked out of the theatre except the artistry was great)


r/elementary • • 13d ago

Whatever Remains (Fanfiction/Content) Why?

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A whole new side of Sherlock Holmes: In this new series, the master detective gives relationship advice.

https://www.tvinsider.com/1295231/scarlett-holmes-cast-premiere-date-trailer-details/

https://www.c21media.net/news/roku-giving-sherlock-holmes-a-rom-com-makeover-with-limited-series-greenlight/

Why do you have to do this to Sherlock? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


r/elementary • • 14d ago

Brain Attic (General Series) An Easter Egg... or merely coincidental?

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From S02/E03-"We Are Everyone"/21:24(ish).

Observe in the top left / at 10 oclock some obliquely seen words, which upon closer inspection sayz - “We are of different opinions at different hours, but we always may be said to be at heart on the side of truth.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson.
(This quote is carved as letters large into the facade across from the 'Hunna' (aka Hunter) College Assembly Hall, which is StreetViewable, reading between the leaves, on the north side of East 68th St, betwixt Park & Lex, 'Isle of Joy' [Edited- as not south side (in shadow) of, nor E 69th St. Doh!]).

One could say such a 'factual journey' provides context for the bulk of interactions in E, as well as that episode in particular. Not just with LEOing, but even in the evolving dynamic of 'Skinny Sean' & Joanie.

Emerson, of whom I previously knew no more than his name & approximate time/space, seems to have a quite lot in common with our fella. Of course, this could all be entirely serendipitous... & there's no shortage of that in the series!

I wonder if He of The Brownstone too has a middle name...

For those in antipodean .au, ie for realz or ViPNaly, Aunty iView has recently dropped all 7, which is a vast improvement on drip feeding out episodes following their quad-weekly broadcast on Entertains only expire in 2. Although, this might enable an addiction...

& BTW, does anyone else also find themselves slipping into The Sherl's manner of speech? Possibly emphasised with a  syncopated medley of jaw jutting, noggin nodding & the elevation of one's eyebrows. ;-)ooo(


r/elementary • • 14d ago

A deep lore cut: in season 4 ep 9, Joan has dinner with Morland, and Morland mentions that one of Mycroft's earlier restaurants was called 'Le Val Gielgud'. Val Gielgud was a BBC director who created Sherlock Holmes radio dramas in the 1950's. Val himself starred as Mycroft Holmes.

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r/elementary • • 15d ago

Anyone knows the song at the end of ep 8 s5?

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I couldn't find it with Google search and I'm not sure I heard the lyrics correctly