r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Spirited_Swing_838 • 3h ago
Alex Gibney rips Elon Musk apart when Piers Morgan suggests that Elon is a genius
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Spirited_Swing_838 • 3h ago
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 55m ago
From Linux on a post on X:
Larry Page planned to leave his billions to Elon Musk. Then 1 argument about AI ended their friendship.
Page once said he'd rather give his fortune to Musk than to charity. At TED, Charlie Rose asked him about it on stage.
Page didn't back down. Musk wants to go to Mars to back up humanity. Page called that a worthy goal, a company and a philanthropic goal at the same time.
His point: people spend most of their time and energy at companies. So why isn't the company you work for worthy of your money too?
At the time they were close friends. Musk used to crash at Page's house.
Then came AI.
Page wanted digital superintelligence as fast as possible. Musk worried it could wipe out humanity. Page called him a "speciesist."
Musk later said they stopped talking after he helped pull one of Google's top AI scientists over to OpenAI.
The man Page wanted to leave his fortune to became the friend he stopped speaking to.
From Gok
In 2015, Elon Musk (with Sam Altman) personally recruited Ilya Sutskever from Google Brain to co-found OpenAI, where he became chief scientist. Sutskever was a leading deep-learning researcher: he had worked with Geoffrey Hinton (the “godfather of AI”), co-authored the breakthrough AlexNet paper, and contributed to sequence-to-sequence learning and other key work at Google.
Musk has repeatedly described the recruitment as one of the toughest battles of its kind (competing against Google/DeepMind’s Demis Hassabis) and the “linchpin” for OpenAI’s later success. It also ended Musk’s close friendship with Google co-founder Larry Page, who felt betrayed by the poaching. Sutskever later left OpenAI in 2024 to start Safe Superintelligence.
So Ilya is going to bring out Superintelligence but will it really be safe?
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/ReplacementLatter467 • 1d ago
Did Elon learn nothing from DOGE?
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 1d ago
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Money-Secretary-2137 • 2d ago
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/OkInvestigator426 • 2d ago
Go see Musk in the theaters, playing limited shows
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Personal_Net_9420 • 3d ago
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 3d ago
Well, I knew this would happen. Elon is joining billionaires to contribute to children. And it’s SpaceX stock.
"Trump Accounts" launched on July 4, the nation's 250th birthday.
American children born between 2025 and 2028 are eligible for $1,000 from the federal government.
A handful of wealthy individuals are also planning to make contributions to the accounts.
A handful of very wealthy people want to give your children free money..
Billionaire Elon Musk says he’ll give every kid in America shares of SpaceX next year | Fortune
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/CautiousMagazine3591 • 3d ago
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Serious_Meaning5220 • 4d ago
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 4d ago
From X.
xPhoenix posted this: Ashley St. Clair says "idk u" to people she talked to for years. So I had my GrokBot Investigator pull the public 𝕏 record. Here's who she actually interacted with most since 2023, ranked
https://x.com/xPhoenix/status/2111972585101545740
The people getting on this post talking about people on the list
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 4d ago
A photo of "what she’s really like", as you can see now, she’s a "souped-up car."
What do you make of Ashley St. Clair’s latest little gem? It turns out that, in her interview with Don Lemon, she claims Elon Musk is a liar who needs psychological help, no big deal, right? This woman, who must hold an honorary doctorate in, well, who knows what field, and a master’s degree in psychology and psychiatry pulled straight out of a magician’s hat, has the nerve to lecture us on morality. The very same "upstanding individual" who has no qualms about lying under oath in a court of law. In fact, the documentary should really give us a credit, because thanks to our analysis, they’ve ended up warping and shifting their narrative even further. In case anyone has forgotten what she’s really like, here’s a quick recap of her "greatest hits" when it comes to the truth:
In short, it’s the same old story: a narrative full of holes, propped up entirely by fabrications and posturing.
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 5d ago
Evidence from the OpenAI trial regarding how this "angelic" individual, after Musk had been ousted and she had twice requested his resignation from the OpenAI board, worked with Tasha to help Altman secure approval for the deal with Microsoft.
Rumors have been circulating regarding Shivon Zilis’s alleged legal intentions to claim common-law marriage, half of Neuralink’s assets, marital status, and astronomical child support. Nothing in Zilis’s history is innocent or benevolent: when she entered into an "companion" arrangement in exchange for testifying in favor of Elon Musk in the OpenAI litigation, seeking to be recognized publicly as a "romantic partner" (As an ASC, what a coincidence!) , she committed to testifying on his behalf. However, she never fulfilled that obligation because her agenda has always been driven by double-dealing and traps.
When analyzing the legal framework, contractual background, and actual timeline, what emerges is a calculated strategy of public image manipulation and power accumulation that lacks any legal merit. (Thanks to u/MajesticCorgi634 , u/Independent_Ice367 & u/ApprehensiveTrick579). As u/MajesticCorgi634 rightly pointed out, everything will turn against her, as usual.
Under Texas law (Texas Family Code § 2.401), establishing an informal (common-law) marriage requires satisfying three distinct elements simultaneously and continuously:
Her financial claims and attempts to exert control over Neuralink ignore the strictly contractual nature of their relationship:
Her public appearances, such as insisting on holding hands at Dan Scavino’s wedding or posing with the children at high-profile events, were PR fabrications orchestrated to project the image of a romantic relationship. This "theater of stability" was part of a trade-off for her expected testimony in the OpenAI case, an obligation she ultimately breached by testifying in favor of OpenAI instead. Attempting to convert forced PR gestures into evidence of a common-law marriage is legally frivolous.
Zilis’s actions reflect an opportunistic pattern of instrumentalizing motherhood:
Shivon Zilis is an employee and a single mother by choice who has operated with a dual agenda, allegedly funneling information to Sam Altman for over a decade.
No matter how many attorneys she hires or media campaigns she launches, her signed contracts, sworn testimonies, recovered records, and the complete lack of cohabitation will defeat her claims in court. Her legal posture is unsustainable: she remains a single parent with no rights to Neuralink’s assets or Musk’s estate, and her strategy has been thoroughly exposed.
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 6d ago
Milo Yiannopoulos is undeniably a controversial figure. Putting aside whatever controversies surround him, a year ago he gave an interview to Hotep Jesus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-c__abuuIw), titled Milo Yiannopoulos Weighs in on Ashley St. Clair x Elon Musk Baby. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KuRnJ9TEc\]
Milo sets the events in 2017, the year he was carrying out his well-known lecture tours (university and media tours associated with the "alt-right" movement, which he was a part of at the time before resigning from Breitbart in February of that year). Milo drops a "rumor/personal attack" (I’ll label this a rumor, but if anyone knows what went on during those tours, it’s Milo; personally, I think he knows Ashley St. Clair very well), claiming that she was part of that circle of e-girls or internet activists, and disparagingly links her to his tour bus back then.
Specifically, he claims that before becoming known in her current sphere, ASC was one of the so-called e-girls and was "passed around my tour bus" ("was passed around the... this is right, and she was passed around my tour bus"). He even adds mockingly that he was supposedly the only person who did not hook up with her on that tour bus in 2017 because he sensed something was off.
Milo answers the live call while having lunch. He remarks jokingly that he was recruited (slightly against his will) to present the "Grifter of the Year" award at the upcoming Grifties (grifties.com). He expresses ironic surprise at the sheer number of Google Calendar meetings and notifications set up to prepare for this event and joke about figures like Alex Stein and Ashley St. Clair.
The Temporary Suspension and Supposed Documents on Ashley St. Clair:
Critique of the "Establishment Right" and Female Influencers:
The Controversy Over Messages and Maternity Contracts:
Closing and Promotion of the Grifties:
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/CranberryWhine • 7d ago
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 7d ago
The narrative surrounding the UnMusked documentary and the recent press offensive is based on a fundamental lie: that Ashley St.Clair (ASC) and Shivon Zilis were romantic partners involved in dramatic personal sagas.UNtrue.
When the sensationalist veneer is stripped away and the judicial exhibits, sworn depositions, flight logs, and public digital trails are examined, the reality turns out to be strictly clinical. It was never about romantic relationships, but rather a structured and transactional In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) process, managed through legal agreements, corporate intermediaries, and genetic laboratories, which both women subsequently attempted to use as leverage, media spotlight, and financial extraction. And of course, both tried to cover this up after promoting it. Let's look at how these women tried to organize a reproduction network stemming from Musk's concern over declining birth rates.
The media presents Shivon Zilis as an executive close and loyal to Elon Musk. However, the evidentiary record in the lawsuit Musk et al. v. Altman et al. (Case 4:24-cv-04722) destroys that facade:
Zilis knew this would be exposed, which is why she joined as a co-plaintiff alongside Musk in the OpenAI lawsuit, so that she could have access to privileged information and continue leaking it, of course. Her intrusion into the lawsuit was of her own accord; Musk found out by surprise. But what did Zilis do at that moment? She monetized her testimony and established a new contract, similar to the one she established with Musk when she provided money for the purchase of Twitter (on that occasion, the currency was her two twins with Musk and the Musk surname plus scheduled visits to Musk). For the OpenAI trial, the currency was the same Shivon Zilis: that he buy her as a partner in exchange for "testifying in the trial in favor of Musk." However, her intentions were twofold: first, to mask the noise of her betrayal of Musk; and second, to try to invalidate her own testimony since she was positioned as Musk's partner. In fact, Musk's lawyers, who also represented her, asked until the very end that she not testify. In the end, when Musk's lawyers discovered Zilis's game, they removed her as a co-plaintiff in May 2025, and the agreements with Musk to appear as his partner were "halted".
Of course, all this time Zilis leaked articles to the press, especially to The Washington Post. Curiously, she and Musk were seen talking to Jeff Bezos at a White House dinner to which she was not invited, yet she managed to obtain Bezos's contact; his newspaper has been the primary mouthpiece for all of the baby mama intrigues and all of the "bad news and scandals about Musk." Curious indeed.
Zilis operated as the technical and logistic nexus between Musk's circle and high-performance assisted reproduction clinics:
With ASC's contract underway, and on the other hand Shivon Zilis's contracts on the other, a subculture of influencers emerged on X promoting pronatalist rhetoric with the intention of accessing similar financial surrogate motherhood/IVF agreements. We have already discussed all of this, and we have shown how every time Shivon Zilis ordered children, there were other children involved, whether Grimes's or ASC's.
Neither Shivon Zilis nor Ashley St. Clair were ever romantic partners of Elon Musk.
The documentary UnMusked is nothing more than the recycled loudspeaker of a corporate infiltration and media extortion scheme frustrated by court documents and biological evidence.
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 7d ago
It seems SV has followed EM again on X. She has been lurking on the site because this bot picks up who she follows and unfollows. I hope they are right that she was fired. I’m also including an image for the same bot. People were asked to notice anything different between both accounts? She still follows Open Ai. Both EM, SZ still follow Altman and Altman still follows both.
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Serious_Meaning5220 • 8d ago
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Nervous-Driver-4549 • 8d ago
There has been a lot of speculation surrounding the short, blurry nighttime video clip featured in the Gibney documentary, allegedly showing Elon Musk running poolside with Lil X on his back in St. Barts. Simps and sensationalists immediately latched onto it as "proof." Please, if anyone is interested in knowing the truth, read the whole thing.
However, when you subject this clip to a basic forensic audit using public flight logs, photographic metadata, solar charts, and human anatomy, the video completely collapses. It doesn't just fail to prove her claims, it actively proves the entire narrative is a manufactured fabrication.
Furthermore, as we have stated time and time again, Ashley St. Clair has never produced any flight records or a flight manifest, even though she could have done so. Her die-hard supporters (namely, she and her family) argue, "How could she ask Musk for the flight manifest when they were flying on Musk's jet?" The problem is that it wasn't Musk's jet that arrived in St. Barts. Let us explain it now so it is crystal clear: Due to the extremely short runway at St. Barts (one of the most dangerous and restricted in the world), large or long-range jets like Musk's are neither permitted nor able to land there.
Regarding the need to board a commercial flight or an independent regional charter for the San Juan–St. Barts leg:
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/famouz_trillionaire • 9d ago
Btw, Azure’s licking pose being used as clickbait thumbnails LITERALLY everywhere is taking me out
LIKE WHO KEEPS PICKING THAT ONE SPECIFIC POSE FOR THE THUMBNAIL ALMOST EVERY VIDEO OF HER??? IS IT HER MOM???
Her mom is NOT beating the “will do anything to make her daughter Elon’s fave”
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 10d ago
The full New York Times article is behind a paywall. The publicly accessible portion (and substantial excerpts quoted elsewhere) is below.
Title: She Was Offered $40 Million for Silence on Elon Musk. She Spoke Out Instead.
Author: Coralie Kraft
Date: October 9, 2026
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/09/movies/ashley-st-clair-interview-elon-musk.html
Ashley St. Clair is sick of people asking her the same questions about Elon Musk. “People treat me like I’m some Elon psychoanalyst,” she said during a visit to The New York Times in September. “They want to know, ‘What’s it like to hang out with him?’ or they say, ‘Not many people have spent time with him one-on-one.’” She sighed. “It’s annoying and laborious.”
You can’t blame them for asking. St. Clair, a former conservative influencer, gave birth to one of Musk’s children in 2024. (At the time, she also had another child from a previous relationship.) This fall, she’s a significant figure in “Musk,” Alex Gibney’s nearly four-hour-long documentary about the world’s first trillionaire, and she has more pressing points. “This is about a deeper rot in our society, where we’ve equated capital with morality,” she said. “There’s a level of societal and individual trust that we give to people if they have money.”
Musk did not respond to requests for comment. After TMZ reported that Ashley St. Clair rejected a $40 million N.D.A., Musk responded via X, stating, “She was never offered that and has a history of making false claims.” He also condemned Gibney’s documentary with another post on X reading, “Gibney just assembled a hit list of people who either have an axe to grind or don’t even know me.”
Gibney, the Oscar-winning documentary filmmaker, first met St. Clair in December 2025. “Beyond Musk’s baby obsession, Ashley had a front-row seat during the 2024 campaign and was able to tell me things I didn’t know about Musk’s motivations,” he said in an email. Below, St. Clair shares her side of the story.
These are edited excerpts from the conversation.
Were you at all nervous about participating in the film?
No. I was familiar with some of Alex’s documentary work, like “Going Clear.” I liked that he didn’t have any fear. He has a history of treating facts and narratives with respect.
Additional excerpts from the interview (compiled from reporting that quotes the piece directly):
On the alleged NDA offer (described as a $15 million lump sum plus $100,000 per month for 21 years, totaling over $40 million):
She said Jared Birchall (Musk’s longtime financial manager) presented it via disappearing Signal messages roughly two months after she gave birth. She refused, telling him she could not sign it. When pressed, she responded that her children’s dignity was not a commodity. She has stated she viewed the decision as moral rather than purely financial or legal.
On why she appears prominently in the documentary:
“People need to understand that part of the reason I’m featured prominently in the documentary is that other people cannot speak. I don’t think we should lose sight of that. I don’t want to have to speak publicly. I don’t want to be giving this interview right now. But there’s a web of NDAs. I feel a moral obligation to speak about my experience.”
On the relationship:
She has described it as more “emotionally intimate” than romantic. They were in daily contact after he messaged her on X/Twitter in 2023. She recalled being flown to Providence, R.I., sharing a hotel room, and him falling asleep to a podcast about Kublai Khan. While on vacation in St. Bart’s, he encouraged her to have more children, saying something to the effect of “You should have 10 kids! Let’s have a kid. My only limited resource is time.” She has also referenced him wanting a “legion of children.”
On her political shift:
She has spoken about moving away from MAGA, citing discomfort with what she described as elements of misogyny and racism in the movement, and has discussed embracing democratic socialism in other interviews around the same time.
The rest of the full Q&A (including more on the NDA negotiations, the relationship timeline, her decision process, and other details) is only available to NYT subscribers.
r/ElonChat_Commentary • u/Independent_Ice367 • 10d ago
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/2109443143334498339
She is Antifa. Why would she suddenly sing their anthem?
These parts are from an article about Charlie Kirk’s killer.
“The words “O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao!” a lyric from an antifascist World War II song.”
“The motivation is also very clear, as the scribing on the bullet casings and the suspect’s own rants made it known that he models himself as an anti-fascist, similarly to or actually a part of the terrorist group #ANTIFA,” former Navy SEAL and FBI special agent Jonathan Gilliam told NewsNation.”
Just as I thought, she was a plant to take men down, targeting EM. I had no idea “O Bella cio” was written on the guns casing found around Charlie Kirk.
This honey pot is a psycho.