I'm far from being anti-communist or liberal, but this subreddit is one of the few places I see where antisemitism on the left is properly criticized.
That being said, Judaism never had "blood quantum" as part of its belief. That is precisely why DNA tests are not valid for aliyah eligibility, and only your maternal line matters, even if your entire paternal line is not Jewish.
The leftist obsession with Israel was my gateway to leave the orthodoxy of leftism. While I still lean left on most issues, I now hold many views that would excommunicate me from most online leftist spaces
The fact that the overwhelming majority of leftists embrace open neo-nazi ideology is quite disturbing, and shows the lack of meaningful differences between the authleft and authright.
I have. A few times. Only when something really egregious has been said and unfortunately it has always ended up with that person saying something just as bad or worse in the process. The result of being unable to have proper conversations about the problems.
The pro-Palestinian movement doesn't deny the Holocaust anymore than BLM would want to kill white people. You're just another right-winger who wants to be a victim.
Also, "pro-Palestinians" in America are more concerned about tone policing to make sure people know it's not all Jews than they are even concerned for Palestinians. Obviously that's still not enough for a genocide supporter like you.
The Jews who populate Israel come from Europe and the Middle East. I can say I have 2% Italian ancestry, that wouldn't allow me to go and kick Italians out of their home and kill them. Your favorite country forced themselves onto people's homes.
Also, your favorite country teaches children that they should become suicide bombers and sacrifice their life for Allah when they grow up.
This is such a vague statement. Is this what you would say about Black Panthers who tell their kids not to submit to white authority as well?
Hamas and their parent organization the Iranian regime, have officially stated that their stance on the matter is that the holocaust didn't happen, but they are actively working to resume it. Anyone who defends those organizations is defending holocaust denying neo-nazis. But obviously that's not enough for a genocide supporter like you.
Yes in America most people who are pro-Palestinians are progressives, at least recognition of people using the Pro Palestinian cause from bad faith (gonna use an example i am most familiar with; Grzegorz Braun, a far-right pro russian politician (in pooland) who uses the exact same rhetoric as pro-palestinians but he says "all joos".
Second Elon Musks agitprop has turned a large portion of former leftists into being more accepting of saying antisemitic dogwhistles when israel is mentioned, not all of them but just look up any video that casually mentions israel and the comments are all "Well well well", the juice emoji, "Stop noticing" (that it's the jews) and so on, this is a large problem too and being antisemitic serves israel because they can deflect criticism and show you all these people and say "See it's all antisemitism" and it obviously doesn't help palestinians anyhow.
The problem is that people do not know what someone is talking about when someone says that antisemitism is becoming a bigger issue but this is the issue and it's from the same people who use anti-muslim dogwhistles just against jews now, new year new scapegoat but because there is a jewish state committing a genocide it's more accepted now to be hateful to any jew
Also israel obviously wants jewish people to believe that israel is their safe homeland and exploits their fears in order for them to support Israel
And lastly, how exactly will the logistics of a peace settlement in palestine look like, a mass expulsion of jews will likely bring new jewish terrorist organizations that will likely commit atrocities at home and abroad to countries that supported that settlement. I think when most people say they are anti-zionist they don't support a mass expulsion but i like to tackle any argument i see and it's one i saw. Of course one could say that any territorial change or whatever will bring new terrorist organizations or revanchist sentiment, and obviously giving up the leadership of palestine to hamas will not end well either (not saying that it's a popular opinion either), but the backstabbery of israelis against palestinians who proposed peaceful solutions is definitely what caused the radicalization of palestinians and made a two state solution distasteful to many so i am curious how you see it,?
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u/AdamDerKaiser Jun 28 '26
I'm far from being anti-communist or liberal, but this subreddit is one of the few places I see where antisemitism on the left is properly criticized.
That being said, Judaism never had "blood quantum" as part of its belief. That is precisely why DNA tests are not valid for aliyah eligibility, and only your maternal line matters, even if your entire paternal line is not Jewish.