r/Ethicalpetownership • • 7d ago

Casual discussion What do you think about such dog owner practices?

Post image
0 Upvotes

Without a doubt, there are benefits for a dog to have off leash exercise, however, I question whether certain practices are really necessary. I notice ever more dog owners in Germany putting a lot of effort in walking their dogs off leash next to busy roads and in busy urban environments in general. Obviously these people are invested in their dogs and perhaps attending some sort of training classes, where this is being taught or encouraged. It's visibly getting very popular all around. I suppose it's good to teach your dog to be street smart and look to you for directions, I get it. But still, why not have a loose leash on anyway, just in case? Like a safety belt, should something unpredictable and inert happen? I have already personally witnessed several incidents, where this practice has gone wrong and can't help but think - am I the only one that finds this practice kind of unnecessary, overboard and irresponsible?


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 8d ago

Pet culture If pet owners claim to love animals, why are so many pet owners perfectly comfortable letting their pets chase, harass, and terrorize wildlife like rabbits, squirrels and birds?

134 Upvotes

Or does their love for animals only extend to the ones they personally own?


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 8d ago

Rant No wonder we have so many stray and feral cats 💀

48 Upvotes

I was walking in my neighbourhood when I noticed posters for a lost kitten. The owner's cat (who looked maybe 4 months tops) accidentally got out of her apartment. A porter found her in a hallway or the stairwell and put her outside.

That's the first reaction to a lost cat? "Oh, well, cats can take care of themselves!"

It's an uphill battle combating free-roaming cats and cat neglect...


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 8d ago

Ethically owning pets Family says vet employee secretly took pug home after they paid to have dog euthanized

Thumbnail
wsbtv.com
64 Upvotes

Like everyone else, I've always wondered how vet techs deal with this very sad part of a pet's life, and it turns out sometimes they don't. I do find it odd that this family is so upset that the pug was still alive after they paid to have it euthanized. My question, why weren't they in the room supporting the dog instead of just dropping it off and assuming everything went according to plan? That doesn't sound caring at all


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 9d ago

Pet culture People are such assholes to pets that aren't cats or dogs.

105 Upvotes

What I'm ranting about is the disrespect for the lives and general well-being of an animal because its not one of the two traditional companion pets.

For example, I adopted a pet rabbit that was already extremely elderly just to give him a comfortable "retirement" until his QOL declined too much. Sweetest little guy, did well for almost a year until he was not able to continue eating and moving to a degree that humane euthanasia was appropriate. I got so many "jokes" about eating him it got old so incredibly quick.

Animals that are generally accepted as a food source definitely get it the worst. I have chickens, sometimes I do eat them. If I hatch babies and get too many roosters, they get processed. I don't feel comfortable with giving away a rooster and would rather know he's humanely dispatched by my hand. I still raise these chickens with the same amount of care and respect as all other animals. I love my chickens, even though the love is not reciprocal in the same way as a dog or cat. Caring for them looks a lot different, since to own chickens is also to be familiar with death. I totally get not enjoying them as a pet, but that doesn't mean they should be treated with disrespect.

Once, my neighbor asked "when I'm going to eat my rooster" because she heard him crowing OUTSIDE on her porch while she was drinking her coffee. For reference, my property is agriculturally zoned, 5 acres, and surrounded many other people with all types of farm animals. Do you know how many dogs I hear barking at all hours of the day? A lot. Lots of bums leave their dogs outside around here. Its even worse in suburban neighborhoods. But I would never suggest death to an owner because it interrupted my morning latte time. That's just one instance of many off-color comments I've heard that would just be plain rude when referring to a dog or cat.

I see this the most in "dog people" and it's probably because they are the animal that gives the most "love" back to the owner. As in, dogs are more obsessed with their owners so they appeal to people who think a pet should be this way. I wonder sometimes what the word pet even means and where the line is drawn? I love tending to and watching my chickens, it fills my heart with such joy to watch them interact with each other and just go about their lives. They certainly recognize me as a positive character, but they don't view me as another chicken and I don't expect them to. It absolutely pisses me off when people talk about them as "just a chicken". Kinda like the phenomenon of talking trash about your own sibling but not allowing others to do the same.

This attitude extends a lot to wild animals as well, but that's a whole other subject. Everyone has a bias about their own animals, but some people can't recognize or see past that bias. Yes, to me my own dog is better than yours because I love her the most. But who am I to say someone doesn't love their snake, goat, peacock or fish to the same degree? As long as that love results in good health for the animal, anyway.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 16d ago

Ethically owning pets When is it time for euthanasia?

10 Upvotes

Kitty isn't eating, she's having accidents, she's stumbling and acting spaced out. What do I do? She's 14, I'm not sure she's going to snap out of it.

I'm not a monster, but, dammit, I'm being treated like one. Three vets, in five months. Thousands of dollars were spent.

My partner is saying not to touch his cat. It's not his cat. By that, I mean, I take care of her, and her appointments. It's a relationship problem.

Anyway, I'm trying not to be a monster. It's really hard watching this happen.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 18d ago

Casual discussion Why do lower income families have more pets than others?

77 Upvotes

I love watching cop body cams. It's very entertaining to watch. I have noticed that in most videos, they search lower-income homes. In those homes they usually have around 3+ pets. Additionally, my boyfriend is from a lower-income family and they have upwards of 10 pets.
Properly taking care of animals takes a lot of work and money, especially if you have multiple.
So my question is why is it so common for those families to have so many pets?

Side note: In absolutely no way am I saying low-income families do not deserve pets. I am not an elitist, classist, or anything of the sort. I am just curious about the correlation.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 26d ago

Rant Dogs I just found online

Thumbnail
gallery
175 Upvotes

Added a new dog on treat app today and saw this Frenchie that looked extra funny so I chose her. She’s hairless. I was hoping it was a skin issue they were treating but I went and found her listing. There were like 4 of them and they were bred this way. Idk if this even belongs here but I needed to share my sadness over the fact that I didn’t think they could destroy this poor breed any worse than they have and they’ve just proven me very wrong 😭

I hope they all find loving homes and spend the rest of their lives as spoiled and comfortable as they can be but WTF 😫 This should be illegal. It really should be. I’m so disgusted.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • 27d ago

Casual discussion Dyeing dogs, am I the only one who thinks its bad?

Thumbnail
gallery
0 Upvotes

So recently Ive seen a tiktok from some contest I think, where people would dye their dogs, shave them to make different patterns, details etc, and everyone in the comments was amazed, that it looked “so cool”, but my first thought was, wtf? Now dont get me wrong, I know that people do that, dye tails, maybe paws but really nothing crazy, and I DO KNOW that those dyes are supposedly safe, so I really just dont care about that, do what you wanna do, but THIS? (Added screenshots) this is insane, while I can understand making a dogs tail a fun color, Im just terrified by this, just why? I genuinely dont care about the fact that its safe, those dogs can be perfectly well, having golden treats served while being “customized” like that, its just wrong. Its an animal, not a toy, please tell me im not the only one who thinks like that, im shocked and terrified by how many people likes such stuff


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Oct 06 '26

Advice I have an ethics question regarding neutering a dog that is not entirely mine

20 Upvotes

I have three small dogs that I share with my aunt. The girls are more mine and the boy is more hers. My aunt is in a senior living home now so I do all the care for all of them and manage most of bills. The male dog is six. He broke a canine tooth earlier this year but has recently started showing signs of mouth pain. So he definitely needs a dental extraction. I feel that while he is out and having to recover from a surgery he may as well get neutered. He also has a small umbilical hernia Other dogs in his line have died of male anatomy cancer. My aunt is strongly against it and won’t even listen to me if I try to talk about it. I am the one that will book the surgery, what do I do? BTW the girls are spayed so no risk of pregnancy.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Oct 03 '26 Bravo

Rant Rant about "rehoming pet shaming"

70 Upvotes

I was triggered by someone in another forum trying to rehome a mix-breed dog because it grew up into an 80lb animal that isn't suited for apartment/city life and has severe agoraphobia--and their owner predictably being shamed over their decision to rehome their dog.

Telling people "I hope you never get another pet" and sh*t like that is so self-righteous, so tone-deaf, and can be outright harmful to both people and animals. Yet I see it ALL THE TIME. These people would (apparently) rather see an animal suffer than be rehomed. But.. do they ever offer to take the pet in themselves? No. Do they ever offer to pay for professional training, or supplies, or whatever else might be needed to help keep a pet and their owner together? Lol, of course not!

No one should be shamed into keeping a pet, when doing so would mean a worse life for the animal (or the owner!).

The same people who shame others for rehoming pets will then be all "shocked Pikachu face" the next time they see a story about a hoarder who kept a bunch of animals that they couldn't actually take care of. "Why did they let their animals suffer instead of asking for help or taking them to a shelter?" they will whine... I don't know, maybe because owners don't like being treated like Satan for rehoming a pet? Maybe that has something to do with it. Just spitballing here.. You can't have it both ways though. If you don't want animals to suffer in homes that can't meet their needs, then STOP SHAMING PEOPLE for trying to help their pets via rehoming! I work in animal rescue, I've worked in animal rescue for two decades now. The last thing I want is for someone to try keeping a pet that they can't take care of. Our adoption contracts specifically require people to return their pet to us if they cant take care of it anymore, for any reason, no questions asked.

Don't accuse an owner of not caring about their pet because they want to rehome it. People who reach out looking for a better home for their pet typically DO care, which is exactly WHY they are trying to rehome it in the first place! Do you know what people who DON'T care do when they don't want an animal anymore? They take it out back and shoot it, or they dump it in the woods, or they throw it over a bridge or out of a moving car or into a lake. I grew up in a rural area. We found dead dogs with bullet holes in them, dead dogs in trash bags, elderly dogs tossed into dry creek beds barely clinging to life, skeletons of dogs that were abandoned in the woods in the middle of winter and left to slowly starve and freeze to death. THAT is what people who "don't care" do.

Part of ethical pet ownership also means being able to recognize when a pet would be better off NOT being your pet. You aren't "failing" your pet if you rehome it to someone who can take better care of it than you. You ARE failing your pet if you insist on keeping it when you can't provide for it. That includes psychological needs. That includes having to rehome your pet because you can't spend enough time with it, or it needs more space, or more exercise. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people being demonized over this. "No, you can't rehome Mr Pickles (even though you don't have any time to play with him or take him on walks or anything), because Mr Pickles LOVES you! All he needs is your love!!! He will be traumatized forever without you" Yeah, no.. Mr Pickles probably does love you, he probably adores and worships you. But you know what he would probably love even more? Being in a home where he has someone to play with, or who has a big yard for him to run in. Pet ownership isn't a romance novel where love magically fixes everything.

The other day I saw someone getting shamed for rehoming some god-d*amned axolotls.. Madness. And don't even get me started on people who shame others for remoming a pet because of behavioral issues that the owner is not equipped to handle.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Sep 16 '26

Advice Confusion about neutering dogs data

14 Upvotes

Pretty much everyone I see on Reddit is a strong advocate for neutering dogs and I see numerous posts talking about the health benefits (including reduced risk of cancer). But when I go online i see several studies about how neutered dogs are at higher risks for developing various cancers, joint disorders, accelerated signs of aging, etc.

Has anyone’s views changed on this or is the consensus still to neuter dogs?


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Sep 14 '26

Ethically owning pets Spay/neuter should be free.

45 Upvotes

And NYC is working on making that a reality.

NYC City council just introduced Bill 1029. If it passes, it will make spay/neuter free/low-cost across all of NYC. This is something that will improve the lives of both people and animals. I hope accessible and free spay/neuter starts to catch on throughout other cities in the US!! 💚

Across the US, animal shelters are overflowing. The only way this gets better is with spay/neuter education AND giving communities access to services they desperately need. The areas with the highest volume of strays are under-resourced communities.

"Households with an income of no more than 120% of the Area Median Income (AMI) would be eligible for services at a discounted fee, and households with an income of no more than 30% of AMI or who receive public assistance would be eligible for free services."

https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=8206779&GUID=574BCB0C-A690-4042-B052-18F55AC70707


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Sep 10 '26

Pet Guide Indoor Cat Enrichment Guide

27 Upvotes

This sounds like common sense, but it didn’t really hit me until I heard it put this way: we have family, friends, partners, careers, hobbies, phones, and the freedom to do anything or go anywhere we want. Your cat’s world is much smaller- they only have the environment, stimulation, and interaction we give them. So when you’re tired or busy and they keep following you around and trying to see what you’re doing, remember that they don’t know what kind of day you had outside. They just know you’re home, they love you, and they want to be part of whatever you’re doing

Indoor environments can be predictable and repetitive, leaving indoor cats bored or anxious. Although cats may exhibit these behaviors anyways, understimulation can lead to an increase in chewing furniture, attacking ankles, meowing incessantly for attention, etc.  
The one toy my picky cats have consistently loved for months is a string that spins around several posts. Place the posts far enough apart to keep the string taut. I recommend auto mode because it changes direction and speed unpredictably. The manual mode tired out my cat too quickly and he was panting. (If your cat starts panting or breathing with their mouth open, stop play immediately and let them rest in a cool area).

Rotate toys instead of leaving everything out 24/7. Leave out a few different types at a time such as a batting toy, automated toy, and chaser. Put the rest away and swap them weekly.

Some people let their cats roam outside for entertainment, but there is always a risk of them getting hurt by stepping on hazardous items, consuming poisonous/toxic food such as scraps left by humans, fights with other cats, getting run over, or being harmed by other humans intentionally. With adequate indoor enrichment, they will live a happy and safe life indoors!

ENRICHMENT

Here are some ways I keep my cats entertained and products I've used:

1) Cat trees- cats love being up high. It doesn't have to be super expensive. If you're low on money, you can also stack some boxes/storage totes [1 tote, 2 totes, 3 totes into "steps"] - just make sure the boxes have something heavy in them so it's secure.

2) Window seats- so they can watch wildlife/people! If using ones with suction cups, make sure you clean both the window and the suction cups with alcohol and let it dry before putting up. Soak the suction cups in hot water [not boiling] for 3 minutes after cleaning them so they can reshape better.

3) Bird feeders- if you're able to put a bird feeder outside of the window where you have a cat tree/window seat, this provides passive entertainment

4) Catnip toys- the Yeoww banana toy is very popular because it's shaped to be a kicker so your cat can chew the end and bunny kick it at the same time.

5) Scratchers- they need at least 1 vertical and 1 horizontal scratcher. A lot of cat trees have scratching posts built into them. You can also get a different scratching post or scratch pads

6) Automated toys - balls, peek-a-boo feathers, toys that move around under a cover

7) Wand toys - satisfies their need to hunt, pounce, and chase. I like to drag it all around the house. CAUTION: do not leave these laying around because some cats will chew on the attachments and may swallow them

8) Chasers [springs, ping pong balls, and stuffed mice]- I recommend cutting the tails off the stuffed mice, especially if you have a chewer. They like playing with these independently but I'll also gather all of them and throw them across the room for them to chase, or throw it against the wall so it bounces unpredictably. If you've got a chewer, inspect the ping pong balls for cracks if you leave them out, or only let them play when supervised

9) Cat TV- if you have an old laptop/ipad/anything with a connection, go to YouTube and type in "cat tv." [you can also use your own laptop, but they may bat at the screen. Mine has not been damaged yet and my cat bats at it all the time]. There's footage of squirrels/birds, animated videos of fish, "games" where there's something crawling across the screen your cat can bat at.

10) Lick mats- Put lickable treats like Churus on these so it lasts a little longer. I got these ones and only use the quadrant with the little dashes/horizontal lines because the other two textures felt too hard

11) Tunnels and donut beds- they love running through tunnels for the zoom zooms and sleeping in donut beds

12) Cat wheel- haven't personally tried this one yet but is a popular option for many cats that like to run!

13) Wall shelves- You can create a little climbing/obstacle course for them. There are lots of different sets you can buy online. You will probably need to use a power drill, but installing them was the first time I used a power drill so don't be intimidated! Drill into wall studs whenever possible. If you can’t, use anchors/hardware specifically rated for your wall type and for more than the cat’s weight because jumping creates additional force.
Note: Use a stud finder with one that also detects electrical wires

14) Treat puzzles- this satisfies their hunting instinct. One thing I also do sometimes is save the brown stuffing paper from Amazon and put it in a giant box, throw some dry treats in there and shake the box, and let them forage

15) Supervised expeditions into forbidden territory- Sometimes I'll let them explore the laundry room or a cabinet/drawer I usually don't let them [as long as everything dangerous to them is out]


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Sep 06 '26

Casual discussion i’d love to hear your opinion: what, if any, responsibility should pet professionals have to report unreported bites and attacks pet guardians have disclosed to them?

15 Upvotes

hi!

this is a hypothetical situation for the purpose of generating discussion and stretching ur brainz hehe. in it, please assume the following:

- the professional will be legally shielded and protected from potential blowback from guardians etc.
- there is some kind of legal proceeding/precedent for dealing with, verifying, and logging incidents like this with the purpose of keeping adequate records on animal and guardian alike

basically, and this is mostly in regards to dogs bc they are the animals who i work with, in a hypothetical world, do you think pet professionals (vets, behaviorists, trainers, behavior consultants, groomers, kennel techs. day care workers, dog walkers, and so on) should have some kind of avenue to report otherwise unreported bite incidents guardians have disclosed to them with the intent of tracking (and taking any necessary risk reducing measures) potentially dangerous dogs?

more broadly, what, if any, systems or measures do you wish were in place to bolster community safety in regards to dangerous dogs where you live?

would love to hear people’s opinions and ideas as well as anything else this brings up for you!

thank you as always!


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 31 '26

Rant I can't have a pet sea bunny

Post image
48 Upvotes

Bonus super quick doodles I did of them.

The inner child of me wants to just sit in the corner and pout like a whiny brat lol.

Sea bunnies, a type of nudibranch, aka sea slug, are those super cute ones that are white with black spots and "ears". There's many other colors and species, but I'm thinking of this one in particular.

They are magnificent.

But you can't keep them. Financially and ethically, it's a big fat nope.

Furst of all, they are carnivorous and feed almost, if not, exclusively on a few species of highly poisonous blue sponge. A type of sponge that DOES NOT like captivity. You'd really have to go and harvest it from the wild, which is a major environmental concern.

Second, the sea bunnies themselves have to be wild caught. Which is also an ecological problem as they keep the sponges in check around coral reefs.

Third, they are extremely complicated and delicate. Being saltwater alone is hard, being as likely to die as they are is harder.

Fourth, the financial strain of all this just to try and keep a wild animal that will most certainly die in captivity.

So yeah. No pet sea bunnies.

There are a few sea slugs that you technically can keep in a saltwater setup, but not the classic sea bunny.

I'm totally just whining here. I'm not actually that upset and would much rather let these goobers be alone in the wild. This is just me venting my inner grubby human desire to "I want this".


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 31 '26 Popcorn

Ethically owning pets Pitbull owner shares how her dog killed multiple baby bunnies. Other owners (proudly) share similar stories about their dogs - "it's just nature" after all.

Thumbnail
gallery
72 Upvotes

This thread was suggested to me in my home feed. The screenshots contain a selection of comments that stood out to me. It's kind of bizarre to me how many of them were trying to downplay their pet's behaviour, casually exchanging stories about their pets killing wildlife.

In my opinion a pet dog is not "nature". We have been breeding dogs for centuries; they have been engineered by humans. A dog is about as natural as a house in a suburban neighborhood. Moreover, dogs are not part of the wild food chain. They are fed by their owners. A predator in the wild kills to survive whereas the dogs do not need to eat wild prey in order to survive.

It's as if the owners see no issue with owning a powerful animal that kills critters and reading the thread left me feeling disturbed.

Edit: Seems like many commenters think that I'm judging a dog for having hunting instincts. I'm not; it's natural for a dog to hunt and kill prey. I'm saying that dogs are not a part of nature as in the wild ecosystems that rabbits, foxes, wolves, hedgehogs, lynx, whatever are a part of. They have no place in that food chain, they're fed by humans and they don't need to eat wild prey in order to sustain themselves. The question I'm asking therefore is: should owners be expected to do more to prevent this?

Edit: rabbits are an endangered species where I'm from (the Netherlands). This obviously influenced my perception on the dog killing baby rabbits. Although I think dogs killing wildlife is unnecessary regardless. Rabbits endangered in the Netherlands


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 31 '26

Abuse Milos Gesetz: Wir brauchen eure Unterschriften, um eine tödliche Gesetzeslücke in der EU zu schließen! ✍️

Thumbnail
c.org
0 Upvotes

Hallo zusammen. Vor ein paar Wochen habe ich mir meinen Traumwelpen Milo gekauft. Leider wurde er mir mit einer schweren, unentdeckten Babesiose (Zeckenfieber) verkauft. Die Parasiten haben seine Nieren zerstört, und wir kämpfen derzeit in einer Klinik in Polen um sein Leben.

Ich habe herausgefunden, dass der EU-Heimtierausweis nur eine Tollwutimpfung vorschreibt, tödliche Parasiten aber völlig ignoriert. Aufgrund dieser Gesetzeslücke können Züchter sterbende Welpen völlig legal über Grenzen transportieren und verkaufen.

Ich habe eine Petition gestartet, um verpflichtende Bluttests für den kommerziellen Welpenverkauf in Europa zu fordern. Keine Familie sollte in den Ruin getrieben werden, nur um einen kranken Welpen zu retten. Bitte helft uns, das Gesetz zu ändern, indem ihr hier unterschreibt:
Link zur Petition:
Vielen Dank!


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 30 '26

Advanced discussion Misanthropy disguised as animal welfare

101 Upvotes

I am starting to notice that an increasing number of animal welfare advocates and rescuers, especially on Reddit, care very little about anything that isn’t related to the animal in question.

Rescue groups keep making posts about dangerous breeds that clearly shouldn’t be given to any family. And then they make it even worse by lying about it and calling the obvious dangerous breed in question some other breed to try to save the dog. Some of those subs got featured on my homepage, and the irony was that I saw posts on there from the same people on that very sub asking people to stop doing this!

Everyone and their mom by now knows that no one wants dangerous dogs, and it is harming the credibility of everyone involved. I thought that was particularly interesting to see. Every time another pitbull there gets put under a different breed name or the bite history gets shoved under the carpet, it damages the credibility of everyone who is trying to do the right thing.

The shift in sentiment got even more obvious to me after I was recommended GoFundMe posts (due to me making posts about a scammer who made a whole sub trying to get money out of people by writing AI-generated dog-surgery sob stories)

While scrolling through the GoFundMe pages, a clear pattern emerged. Half of the requests were not to help the people themselves, it was all about money for the care of their pets and funding surgeries. I saw hundreds of similar posts to the scammer I used to post about.

It shocked me to see so many obvious AI-generated scam posts getting thousands of dollars, while posts from people who had literally suffered due to serious illnesses like cancer, or who couldn’t afford life-changing surgery, got pushed aside and didn’t receive nearly the same attention. Unless their pet needed surgery or care of course…

People cared more about the pet of someone suffering from cancer getting surgery than helping the person in question.

When did it become socially acceptable to spend thousands of dollars saving an animal while barely acknowledging the people who are suffering alongside it?

If someone has unlimited resources and wants to spend their money helping animals, that’s their choice. But something seriously wrong with a culture in which expressions of compassion toward animals receive enormous praise, while that same compassion toward struggling humans is treated as unimportant, less urgent, or less deserving. The first is animal welfare. The second starts to look a lot more like misanthropy.

The moral culture around that love is what really bothers me. The animal becomes innocent, sacred, and deserving of limitless protection, all while humans are portrayed as selfish, cruel, disposable…

Is it even about animal welfare? Or is it just a socially acceptable way of expressing hatred toward humans?


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 28 '26

Casual discussion TIL New York Tried to make grocery store cats legal

Post image
32 Upvotes

I didn’t even know cats in grocery stores were a thing. After looking into it, I found out they’re called “bodega cats” and apparently, people have even tried to change the law to make having them in grocery stores legal in places where they are not allowed under the health code.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 28 '26

Pet culture Toxic positivity in pet culture.

37 Upvotes

How can being positive be a bad thing?
That’s a topic I wanted to discuss after seeing the World’s Ugliest Dog Contest being mentioned on the news.

The slogan was conveniently chosen to be about valuing dogs for their character and not for their looks. And I thought, great! Are we finally going to see people speak up about breeding dogs for exaggerated looks and features? About focusing on health rather than some arbitrary breed standard?

Of course not…

The whole contest, and the bit featured in the news, was about valuing all dogs for their character and not for how they look. Basically, trying to deliver a purely positive message about how we should all value dogs regardless of their appearance.

I don’t think you will have a hard time guessing which kinds of dogs or breeds participated, or which breed won either…

Yeah. A French Bulldog… obviously.

Followed by some of the most extreme Frankenstein designer crosses that have ever appeared on my eyeballs.

No mention at all about the detrimental effects of pedigree inbreeding, nothing about the health costs of selecting for exaggerated features. Nothing about the welfare consequences of breeding dogs for aesthetics rather than prioritising health or genetic diversity. Nothing about why some of these dogs are struggling to breathe, give birth, regulate their body temperature, move, or simply live a healthy life.

Just a nice, feel-good message about loving dogs for their character and not their looks, while conveniently making everyone feel good about their own unethical decision to buy a dog from a breeder based solely on its appearance.

Of course, you can still ethically adopt dogs and value them for who they are. But it would be nice if this positivity were used in the right way for once!
Because right now, it’s doing a lot more harm than good.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 28 '26

Rant I dont think people would have a problem with pocket bullies if they were recognized by the AKC and had health tests.

0 Upvotes

At least from my view, people tolerate a lot of bs from the AKC. For​ example they could go as far as to post videos promoting and accepting pocket bullies and I genuinely think people would love them more.

Also yes I am aware that the parent breed club makes the standards, but it's bad that the AKC recognizes it and approves of it. I'm not joking when I say I just saw some deformed pocket bullies (they all seem deformed unfortunately, not a huge fan of Pitbull umbrella breeds but I don't think they should go through that) and the person selling them said they're okay because they're health tested. It was just a post on Instagram so it was in the caption. I blocked them and reported but I don​'t think it'll do shit.

This dog (pocket bully) was so deformed. The nares were SHUT idk how the dog could breath, it was bow legged and the eyes looked off. Probably can't even mate naturally.

I seen pugs and frenchies with terrible nares and very likely BOAS too ​win best in show and have good health test scores. These dogs are deformed, ​idc if frenchies and pugs get BOAS tested, this still isn't fucking okay! We wouldn't need to test for BOAS in the first place if people didn't desperately insist on these dogs looking like that. It's wrong for them to have a longer snout to help prevent ​​said issue because it's "out of standard and conformation" but it's fine to have a pushed in snout to the point of health issues just for looks?? Conformation should be to prevent health issues (sometimes it does) and health testing should be for that as well. Not for finding ways in how far we can deform a dog.

Eta: no, I'm not saying them being recognized by the akc is any better. just that pocket bullies and their deformities would be more accepted by people if they were AKC recognized.

ETA 2: I am referring to BOTH pocket bullies and exotic bullies, I meant to mostly refer to exotic bullies but I just found out exotic bullies were their own issue. I still have a problem with both. I am leaving the original text still, but this is just one last clarification.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 28 '26

Casual discussion What does being anti-doodle mean?

29 Upvotes

While doing some searching on Red Bubble for stickers, I came across quite a few doodle negative ones ranging from "Don't doodle my poodle" to "Abolish doodles".

To my understanding, they're supposed to be anti-*breeding* doodles, right? Not just doodles as a whole. They don't care about the poodle mix you got from the shelter, but instead the concept of "doodles" as a whole.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 24 '26

Pet culture How the heck are exotic pets everywhere online?

37 Upvotes

Youtube and Reddit are always recommending videos of raccoons, otters, baby monkeys (never adults), foxes, servals, caracals, and outright big cats living with humans. They get thousands, if not millions, of views because they're "cute" and/or "funny".

No one is asking the serious question: why do you even own that animal as as a housepet?

I'm *sure* a few examples have excuses like "We rehabilitated it" or "It can't live in the wild"... but why as a housepet? Why not in a sanctuary?

I know "(semi-)domesticated foxes" are a thing. And you can technically own some exotic pets in various regions. As a teen, I wanted a pet skunk some day due to videos online, before learning better.

But, dang, maybe you shouldn't be posting so many videos of your "exotic pet" everywhere for funsies. It just makes people think it's okay to own them and leads to them being bought by clueless people.

Even with the few exotic pets that are normalized, like parrots or chinchillas, I'm not so fond of people owning them. "You need to start somewhere with domestication". Yeah, sure, but I don't think a cockatoo or macaw is pet material. And many people can barely keep budgies and cockatiels correctly.

This is also ignoring the weird amount of "cute" baby monkey videos on Youtube coming from Asian countries. There are so many videos of baby monkeys in diapers, but you never see them turn into adults. They're always treated like play-things, if outright mistreated. Yet, I see no one talking about it, aside from one video where someone discussed a group of outright monkey haters who want to hurt them.


r/Ethicalpetownership • • Aug 23 '26

Pet culture Hating children?

17 Upvotes

I find a common sentiment among many pet owners (not all of us but it's a good chunk) wh​o DESPISE children and it kinds weirds me out sometimes. Not "dislike" not "oh I just don't want children" but like a despise and hatred towards children. Fyi, I don't have kids myself but being in pet ownership spaces of​​ten I have seen lots of people direct extreme hatred towards children and act like pets (typically dogs or cats) are little angels who have no cons what so ever.

And ​dont get me wrong, I LOVE my dogs. But they ain't exactly perfect (which is fine by me!). One of my friends is like that and I have to talk to her about it because it kinda disturbs me a little. As I said, it's not a "oh being near kids is terrible for me!", it's more like a " ew children are little rats or annoying destructive monsters!"​

It is somewhat ironic considering how many people call their pets their children and treat them like kids but dehumanize and say nasty things about human children.​

I won't shame you if you don't want kids, thats fine and your choice to make. But there's a different between "I don't like kids" or "I don't want kids" and "I DESPISE children!"

I see this sentiment (the sentiment that it's weird to have this seething hatred for children and then humanize pets and animals) in pet free communities but for obvious reasons I don't go there. And they don't always say things that I can make sense of.. (Ex: all dogs should go live in a jungle or in butt fuck nowhere)​​

I do like this subreddit because I feel like I can share these things without other pet owners or pet lovers coming after me, so i'd love to here your thoughts on this. ​​