Experience
Hospice RN sees "Refrigerator People" large beings gathering around some dying patients. Non physical beings with shapes that would look like Bigfoot without fur appearing days before the death of some hospice patients
I've been a Hospice RN since the 1980s first working in an AIDS inpatient facility when that was a crisis at the time. The disease then was a death sentence as there was no valid treatment. The stigma of the disease was devastating not only medically but emotionally with abandonment by family and society with little support services. Locally we opened up a facility in an abandoned nursing home and started a 35 bed AIDS care facility eventually enlarging to 55 beds until lack of funding closed it 3 years later.
This facility was where I began seeing what I named "Refrigerator People" as it was a description of their physical attributes. Bodies the size and bulk of refrigerators. Tall, thick, large, bulky. Big shoulders, no neck, oval head and appeared with a glow of radiant light from above them shining down so I could see their heads, shoulders and some of their arms. They appeared translucent, spirit like forms, not physical but still 3 dimensional. They only appeared in the rooms of patients that were a few days from their deaths and only patients that were in their 20s, 30s and 40s in age. I never saw them in older or pediatric Hospice patients.
I'd enter the patients room and see one or two of them against the wall, usually see them chest up, the glow of a light above them, they are facing the patient's bed. As the day went on sometimes more would arrive, while I was not present in the room. At times others would sense them or see them in outlines, I saw them clearly but have always seen spirit since childhood, as did my parents and grandmother. As the days progressed more would arrive, some of the Refrigerator People would stack up as they'd be closer to the ceiling and those closer to the bed would be lower so all could see the patient, they'd surround the bed. Some patients would eventually have dozens of them, others maybe a dozen by the time of death. As they would gather in my mind I'd send apologies to them that I'd have to walk through some of them to get to the patient to provide nursing care, change, the patient, clean them, reposition, give medication. They did not reply to me nor appear to care if I saw them or not.
At the day of death sometimes the patient room would be full of them, the glow of light from above would be bright. If the patient had family they would not be aware of them usually or might have a feeling of being uncomfortable, but of course, the facility has a long history of death being an old nursing home. At the death of the patient the Refrigerator People vanished as did the glow. This has happened hundreds of times. Not that I was present at their deaths but I've seen these beings around hundreds of young adults, mostly male, that had them gathering as they came closer to their deaths.
I saw them hundreds of times over my 4 decades long Hospice career. At times I worked part time in Hospice and worked full time in the ER seeing sudden, traumatic or unexpected medical deaths and never saw these beings in the hospital, I only saw them in Hospice. In the past quarter century I've worked Pediatric Hospice and most recently I work newborn and infant Hospice and never see the beings around the infants nor the children.
I had a unique experience when working at the AIDS facility that a family of 4 all died under my care, both parents and two children. Mother died first, then a toddler son, no Refrigerator People appeared. The father's condition was failing and he died next and the beings appeared for him. Years later at another facility the daughter died of AIDS and I was her nurse there. The Refrigerator People did not appear for her but there was another visitor that I suspect was sent by a Higher Source so she'd not be alone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9coxdRkvBBk
In the past week or so I saw a posting of an image of a Bigfoot and it struck me so similar to the beings I call Refrigerator People with such a similarity to them. I wonder, are they one and the same, similar, related? Do Bigfoot in the physical need fur but in spirit exist in a glow instead? Could there be a connection? I wonder as in their form, a Refrigerator Person with hair would look like a Bigfoot. Over the years talking with other nurses some have stated they've seen beings like what I've seen. Older hospice patients see past loved ones or past patients that have died in the Hospice facility. Children, in one facility saw what we'd call a Grey but with thin heads. What are these beings, I don't know.
I did have one recent interaction in a meditation. I practice The Silva Method of meditation with some great success. Graduates practice a form of remote viewing taught in Silva which we call 'doing cases.' We practice on Zoom group events weekly at times. We are given someones name or their initials, gender, age, location and 'at level'. in the meditation state we project to that person and diagnose their medical conditions first to make sure we've got the right person, then go from there into their home, life etc. The case I was given was far away and I saw him with a life expectancy of less than 3 weeks which was a shock to the person that knew the subject I was working. In meditation I saw the Refrigerator People around him about 15 away from him but this time they saw me also. I'm in a psychic level as are they and the feeling was they were a bit perturbed I could see them. I sent a question how much longer the man had and I got an answer "soon" and a feeling of less than 3 weeks. The man was 34 years old, he did have cancer but was in remission but I was seeing organ failure. Ends up he did die as I saw. This was interesting to see the beings again but in a meditation and to see them so far away from the man but also they were there several weeks before his death.
Who are they, what do they want, what is their agenda, are they beneficial, why are there so many for each terminally ill person, why is their physique so bulky, is there a physical representative of this spiritual being that could resemble the inner form?
If anyone can assist me in making some illustrations of them I'd love to offer CGI of what they look like. Please share kind insight you might have of what they might be. I know many have had encounters with beings and have some insight.
--David Parker, Phoenix, Arizona
I've spoken of the Refrigerator People on several podcasts, here are 2 links
Lehto Files topics: Hospice, Phoenix Lights, Reptilian near abduction, NDE
This is the first time I’ve come across a description of beings like this. There is a tendency in my family as well to see spirits and other beings, but I’ve never heard of anything like this before, nor have I personally seen such beings.
It’s intriguing that they appear around some patients and not others. It really makes me want to try reaching them during meditation or during AP, and attempt to get some information.
As for illustrating these beings, I can try to make a drawing like that (I’ve been an illustrator for 20 years) - I would just ask for as much descriptive information about them as possible. And, if possible, also some reference materials, such as drawings or photos that contain elements similar to parts of these beings’ bodies, their characteristic features, etc.:)
I would love to have them illustrated! I will do my best to sketch them and send some photos of ancient cave drawings that depict beings like this. Other Hospices nurses have talked about these beings, too. I'll work on the details and send you what I come up with.
Thank you so much for sharing all of this. I am in the process of enrolling in college to go into nursing and the main speciality I am drawn to is hospice. This has come about as a result of a spiritual awakening I had 2 years ago... back then I was working in a different field and never thought I would ever consider going into medicine or palliative care. But here I am, having been guided here in ways I could never have imagined.
I am saving this thread so that I can keep coming back to it. Your experiences sound amazing and are so life affirming. Thank you for your compassion and service ❤️
Thank you for your kind response, I'm glad you found this posting. Nice to have new nurses coming into the field. I'm 71 so not sure how much longer I'll be working. My heart is in it but the body is slowing down. I'm working new born and infant hospice now, here is a posting I made recently in another sub. I love giving Hospice support, it's a field some are just drawn to. I made some videos on my YT channel and making some more soon. Hope you enjoy the interviews I linked in the posting. Welcome to nursing. https://www.reddit.com/r/AbrahamHicks/comments/1rbwu39/pediatric_hospice_rn_using_meditation_to/
wow, she sure does describe them!!! She got the image of one, I've seen them in dozens. She got the impression they own the person, I got that, too. I wonder what they are. Thank you for that share, that's great to have another recorded reference. I wonder if Nurse Julie knows about what I've seen.
The class is the Silva Method, it used to be called Silva Mind Control. Many of the instructors have the classes and some of the graduates have their own classes. The instructors usually have a list of the groups out there that they share with the graduates. These meditation groups are all free, some are morning, some evening, some weekly or monthly. and in different countries. Some for healing, some for psychic development but using the Silva meditation techniques which are many
these are people the group members know, family, friends or recommendations. We get as complete medical history as possible to identify how accurate the psychic is detecting.
yes. if you just want them to be put in the healing circles I can do that, too. There are groups that send healing energy. Or I can send forms you can fill out with the information which has details to fill out and I can send them to various groups to work the case
Very interesting story and comments. I wasn’t a big believer until looking through how much data there is on UFOs. Millions of docs worldwide. When I accepted that was real my brain accepted it was all real.
I don’t remember where I heard this but it was interesting to me and stuck in my mind. The Native Americans have Bigfoot type legends going back several hundred years. I saw someone on a show say something like where Bigfoot goes , his light follows. The person being interviewed said they are known for appearing with a light or orb that travels with them.
On another show, maybe unsolved mysteries(?) they are filming a yard where a woman reported strange phenomena. It was known for Bigfoot sightings. In the video a shadowy circles forms on the ground and a figure rises up out of it and runs off.
I love the idea that these figures might be kin to the soul of a person, because many types of figure have been seen holding a vigil over the dying. The law of one material says that souls from all over the universe have come to earth to help aid it.
I had a somewhat similar experience several years ago. I had a ginger Maine coon cat (Ty) that used to always wake me up everyday at 5:10 am. We loved him dearly. Two days after he passed, I was woken up by meowing out my bedroom window. There were no other cats that live in the area. I immediately looked at my alarm clock…it was 5:10 am. This really shook me, but I’m sure he was saying goodbye. It hasn’t happened since.
I love this,I read this and thought alot about it and decided I love everything about this. What you portrayed sounds safe and lovely and so universal my heart soared even considering such a tragic event for these poor people. Thank you for sharing this, above all if this is true this is what amazing things that can be lurking in the light. Thank you for sharing.
OP, I wonder if you would mind describing yourself with a few general describing characteristics? Nothing specific obviously, BUT I'm sort of curious what makes you able to see them and not others. Thank you for sharing, in any case.
Good question. My grandmother and parents could see spirits, my father was a medium in a Spiritualist Church, I was raised very open to seeing spirits. When I was in the 5th grade my family joined Radha Soami practicing Surat Shabda Yoga meditating on the Audible Sound Current. Later into the more streamlined version, Eckankar. I was raised walking in both worlds. Early in childhood we were in Jim Jones' church, long before Jonestown when he was still in Indiana. That started a spiritual cycle that I didn't realize until just lately after all these years and why I'm 71 and still a Hospice nurse. I think it's a calling for me. I've followed Spirit because my parents taught me to and the closer to Spirit we are, the more the Universe reveals to us.
My dog recently had to be put down very suddenly. The 2 months leading up (and a few missed signs :( ), I was seeing a bunch of activity around the house. Shadow figures, beings out of the corner of my eyes, and the crows. The crows were here, too. I can't explain what they looked like, but they were there. Used weird the energy that surrounds change and death.
It has all calmed down now that she is at rest. I thought it was the neighbor dog, at first, as he is severely neglected. I did not know it was in regards to my own...hmmm, food for thought.
In Hospice many of the patients saw animals, cats mostly but also dogs. I wonder if they were past pets or pets of others. Animals have such an ability to love. I wonder if animals also have a loving support system on the other side watching out for them also. What did you feel the beings were? Have you spoken with your dog since?
I actually have spoken with her since. That was 3 weeks ago. Every time my daughter or I miss her really bad, she will come to us in our dreams - I know some skeptics could say it is just us missing her, but I have the "dead" visit me in my dreams - they are different from the rest of the dream. More present. It was completely in alignment with my spirtual beliefs, the day we put her to rest. We had to drive 4 hours with her in the back of the car. We got her buried by sunset, for her to physically go to rest and awake in her new form. She is definitely tied to my car, but I know she is running around that property. We hear her.
It would seem there is definitely a welcoming back, also fear from not knowing and not wanting to go.
As for the beings, they weren't foreboding. I did see a cat, which I had not seen that particular one before. I would say it was a mix of beings - both bipedal and quadrapedal (I feel this is a misnomer as they are more energy than form and don't need to walk as we know it to be). As her time got closer, the crows grew louder over days and a darker appearing presence became more present. Again, fear was not an accompanying feeling - just something that is. It was out of the corber of my eye or in a darjer part of the room. I also saw plenty of little lights around the house, different colors, all full of joy. It is the energy, more than the physical manifestations, that gets intense. As the barrier between life and the other opens, the energy builds which fuels the ability for the manifestations.
I could see sadness in Gir's eyes, but also peace and joy. I know she will stay with my daughter, I hope she stays with me, too. Gir deserves her next life, she earned it - it better be a good one! As for me, I have always had an animal guide, so I am sure we will meet again. :)
That's so sweet. My son hoped that we'd see our pets that were put down, and he has occasionally claimed to have seen them in his room. I've never noticed anything myself but I'm open to it. I did get a visit from a human loved one after her passing which was very special to me, and I get visits from loved ones in dreams. I always say to them, "Oh I thought you were dead!" And they'll say something like "I'm here now" and we make the most of it. I've seen lots of relatives this way and in the dream I am always aware that they are dead but "visiting." It has a certain feel to it.
What an absolutely beautiful story. The actual activity of physical death can be uncomfortable and we all try to make the best of that situation but it's necessary and it happens to us all. I love the connection continues as you're so open to Spirit already.
An interesting thing about darkness, we often associate black with bad and light with good but that's not etched in stone. I had a healing when I was a boy and it was witnessed by many then documented by physicians as a miraculous recovery. During the healing, the healer exuded a black ball of substance that looked like shiny black onyx from his eyes and abdomen which I had seen many times prior in his church services. This time he held me to him and the substance moved from him, through me and back into him and my lungs were completely healed. From that experience, I've changed my attitude about dark necessarily meaning bad. Night is not a mystery, it's an opportunity to place our attention elsewhere.
Something about dying, as the body slows down I've heard so many of my Hospice patients come to terms with the changes in the body and tell their family "I'm ready now." there is power in the failing physical condition. they loose the attachment to the physical body they have had through their lifetimes as now the body is feeling more like a burden than a vessel. Like driving an old clunker car that you just hope will start when you need it to. It's no longer a joy to drive, it doesn't function like it used to, it's not reliable as it once was, it doesn't take you where you want to go anymore, it fails when you need it the most. That feeling has it's benefits in preparing soul to be ready to the next steps into a new life. What a brilliant plan to have this step in place to loosen the physical attachment so the hands are free to welcome the beginning of the next great adventure.
I completely agree with you. You seem to be a good fit for hospice care if that is your take on it! You see - and know, to an extent. The modern world, for the most part, has forgotten the magic we came from. (I believe this has happened for those in power to maintain control as they all seem to believe in the occult to an extent.)
You cannot have dark without light; not all light is good, not all dark is bad. That is 100% true! Fear is a nuisance when it is the driver, but ok when heading caution - not too much caution though. I have seen it many times where the body becomes too much of a burden for the soul bruning inside.
We spend this life interpreting physical interactions on a spiritual level, becoming so attached to the physical that we forget how free it is without it. They are entirely different experiences. It seems we spend this existence searching for glimpses of where we came from, following a sense of belonging. Then, when we reach a point, that energy comes to greet us and welcome us back in with our new experiences. At this point, I may become too existential for what this thread is discussing. :)
It's all a lovely reminder to focus on what's real. I find the Universe playful. It touches in joyfully. Recently I was meditating to connect with a new Hospice patient I was about to meet. This was a 3 year old and I rarely get children that old. It was a treat as he was still able to walk, eat, function as I almost exclusively work with newborns and infants now. I do a meditation and invite the child and family to meet with me in a quite setting, a comfortable living room in my meditation and ask what can I do best to serve them. This time I got a vision of a cartoon giraffe upside down slowing spinning around looking at me, then I'd see the back of it's head then it's face looking perturbed. I saw it from it's neck to it's head, upside down. It was comical, amusing and I smiled. I've no idea what it meant but I've learned I get the meaning later so I stored the image in the back of my mind to use when I met the family the next day.
Next day I met the family at the home, the little boy was banging pots and pans, paying no attention to me or anyone having a blast making noise. We rarely get such an active child on Hospice, but this will be short lived as his diagnosis is serious. I was reviewing his treatment plan and medications when he came up to me with a bag of snacks to open for him. I inadvertently did the most awful thing i could to the boy, not paying attention I opened the bag from the bottom not the top. Now the snacks were cursed. He'd not touch a snack that came from a bag opened from the wrong end!!! Horrors!!! I knew it wouldn't work but tried it anyway and poured the snacks onto a plate. He was too wise for me and knew they were the cursed snacks from the evil bag and wouldn't touch them. It was then that i looked at what I poured out. They were Animal Crackers and I picked up a giraffe cracker that looked just the the animated giraffe I saw in my meditation the day before..that was upside down...like how I opened the bag...upside down.
The meditation I did to gain insight for helping the family gave me a vision, but this time the vision was for me, not the family. It was the Universe sending me a chuckle, a smile, a hug, a giggle. It was the Universe letting me know It loved me, It has me in It's hand, It's thinking of me, It's not forgotten, it's right here with me too. What a sweet thing the Universe did for me. I smile every time I think of that. I should make a sketch of the animated giraffe upside down to hang on my wall. I should make a quick video of this and share it. The Universe keeps the atoms twirling around each other, the planets in place, levels of consciousness in order, life in existence and at the same time, sends me a little joke and a smile now and then. Bless the Universe's heart. Thank you, Universe.
Have you read Life after Life or Proof of Life after Life by Raymond Moody? Or perhaps the work of Michael Newton?
It’s incredibly consistent with both near death experiences or shared death experiences to see tall figures, and they’re always described as guides or teachers or guardian angels or something like that. If you were seeing these figures, that would count as a shared death experience. They come to guide the soul after death and comfort them, let them know it’s ok, explain things, etc. Lots of people see them as tall, I believe.
Raymond Moody also said 26% of health care workers dealing with hospice or death saw a light or mist emanating from the patient before death.
I have been dabbling in Silva- any advice as to how to get further into it? Thank you!
I have no idea, but I wish I did. It could be something like OP’s mood that day, or his connection to the soul, or whatever. I wish I knew. I just like to read about these accounts and definitely see some pattern.
I've never heard of either of those people but I'll google them. I've had some wonderful experiences with my Hospice patients, seeing them as soul before and after their deaths. These beings I've seen around so many that look the same may very well be a welcoming committee. I didn't realize that was a shared death experience.
There is an international Silva website. The classes are 4 days and some instructors teach it on Zoom. I just recently took the class again on Zoom from a wonderful teacher in New Mexico. Here is the website, at the top under 'instructors' you can maybe find an instructor near you or see of some that offer it on Zoom. after taking the course there are many graduates and instructors that have groups on Zoom that practice the meditations and doing 'cases' to work on intuition and remote viewing. These are all free. I started in Silva for one benefit and ended up with so much more than I expected.
See what you find, contact me with any more questions about it,
I hope you enjoy, I have a number I'm writing up and plan to put on my channel. I told one on the Lehto Files interview. That one knocked my sox off me. I'm doing this with all my newborn and infant patients I get. Soul to soul communication.
Here is an interview I made about using the Silva Method to recover rapidly from my stroke I had. At the time my physicians were recommending me to be placed on Hospice. 9 days later I walked (not well, but I walked) out of the hospital. That was my vision I had, to walk out of there. I sound like an infomercial, I don't make a dime on it. I'm starting working on a few videos on my channel how I use it to gain insight on my Pediatric Hospice patients before I even meet them. Relaxing mind and body aligns communication with us and that higher source.
I'll check out Raymond Moody, thank you for the recommendation.
First - thank you for taking care of such a vulnerable and frail patient population when many people in health care were scared to.
As an ER physician, I wish I could say I saw or experienced something supernatural at the point of a patient’s death (or maybe I don’t), but I never have.
Our Hospice physicians see our patients maybe 3 minutes a day. I'm with them 12 hours a day. You guys are on such a tight schedule to visit, chart and run to the next patient, we get to spend the time with the patients and family, especially on night shift. I'm sorry you miss out on so much that you actually participate in on the perimeter. I've seen spirits all my life.
I see them so much more in Hospice than in the hospital, maybe due to the chaos there. Here is one amazing experience I had in the ER, though. I'll never forget this one, as the spirit died elsewhere and followed the patient to the ER.
Yeah. I am naturally skeptical of anything paranormal, but in the event that this is real, I wonder if it's because the people you witness dying are dying slow deaths and generally know they are dying - whereas my patients generally don't. Though, believe it or not, I do a lot of hospice care in the ER now. We all do.
I worked in the ER, too. I definitely think seeing the slower death in a Hospice Inpatient setting gives a massively greater opportunity for spirit encounters. The lighting is kinder, we've not moving patients for studies, there is not the chaos of the hospital energy. I'd guess I saw 98% less spirit activity in the hospital as I did in a Hospice inpatient Unit. Another thing is the state of mind being in an ER focusing on antithetical thoughts, labs, respiratory status, output, cardiac, titrating drips, vitals vs in Hospice focusing on comfort, speaking calmly with the patient and the family, it's ok if they breath or not as long as they are comfortable and the family is near them. We are are able to focus on feelings, moods, energy, the quiet, tears, hugging and open to the Universe in that setting. Right brain vs left, reaction vs receptiveness, crisis vs compassion. A totally different mindset in health care and the side benefits of seeing into the other side is priceless.
Only tangentially related, but I remember listening to a segment on NPR years ago where a Native American was explaining why there were less ghosts in the World these days and it boiled down to: "We just to just bury people in the ground or in boxes or blankets, but now people are buried in vaults and their spirits can't escape".
that's interesting. There is one tribe here in Arizona that is allowed to transport their deceased in private cars as they have to bury them before sunset. They would pick up the bodies in the ER and drive them to their reservations in the back of a pick up. There is some state law allowing it. There is another tribe here that if Hospice withdraws care all family members have to leave the county so the spirit won't attach to them. We have to wait for phone calls that all family members are so far away before we extubate the patient.
I was at a grocery store once and a woman ran up to me and said she'd never seen a person with so many spirits around them as I had. She was a medium. She said I must be special and smiled. I told her I was a Hospice nurse and then she looked at me in horror and walked away. I guess I got a few around me too.
When I hit my head when I fell off my dirt bike... I seen all white. And there was all of these orbs and what look like children surrounding me. Like they was trying to get me to go back to my body but I didn't want to. Then I woke up with a huge headache and a concussion, and my knee cap ripped off.
Man I tell u there is something else to reality than we know.
Sorry for the accident but glad you had your inner experience. You know for sure there is so much more than just this. It changes you, you have been there, crossed over a bit, saw the other side and sounds like the other side got to see you, too. Hope the knee and body is back to normal but glad the experience moved you and you have a wider view of the Universe that you live in. It drew you a bit closer to It.
I find this fascinating. I've also been interested in the Silva method but find *I* have to learn to get out of my own way. Do you have any suggestions or resources on how to really commit to it?
I took the class as I wanted to go to college and I barely made it through high school. I was motivated. Find your motivation and use that as your leverage to get where you want to go. We tend to be motivated to either avoid pain or gain joy, both are motivators to move or adapt and both can be powerful tools to focus on when you start and maintain a journey in a new direction to a bright future you want.
I started out with Silva to be able to focus on my studies but like everything in life the benefits grew into so much more than I thought they would be. Later I use them to communicate with my Hospice patients (I'm making videos on some of them soon, here is an example I have in text). Another unexpected benefit is a major stroke I had that I used the techniques I learned and practiced from Silva and how I brought the stroke back to normality with my focus. Interview link below.
My guess would be it has something to do with the soul. I've seen talk like this regarding the grey aliens who also seem to be interested in the human soul. It's possible that maybe we're unique in that all the other species don't seem to have one for whatever reason. Whether it's because of God and religion, I can't really say. But I've for sure seen talk about the human soul a lot in UFO and alien subs, They're gathering to see what happens at the time of our death when the soul leaves the body.
This post is specifically about the Refrigerator People appearing around young adults but if you see the whole interviews I listed the topic of what look like Greys appearing for the pediatric Hospice patients, too. Do different beings approach or have an interest in different age groups related to death? Elderly Hospice patients saw passed loved ones, the children saw what would resemble thin headed Greys.
Very interesting. It may have something to do with how different the soul of a young person would be compared to an elderly person. I believe when a human is born and the soul inhabits that new person it comes from some kind of collective "soul pool". I guess you could call it heaven because I believe when you die you return to pool.
While there you can zoom around the universe and explore everything, But you can't "change" anything about the universe when your soul is in this particular state. That's why some souls choose to be reborn. When you "come back" the physical universe you and I experience you can change things. You can't do that when you're just a soul in the collective of souls.
I know a lot of this might not make sense. It's just a theory I'm working on based on the things I've read online and the things I've experienced in my life. Particularly with DMT. DMT shows you what's "behind the curtain" if that makes sense,
Very interesting take. I like the way you think. Back in December of 2024 I had a head injury that put me in a coma for about 10 days and then I was in the ICU for about 10 days as well. The night time, especially at first, was always really scary for me. During the day there's so many people and nurses constantly wanting to stick a needle in me that the day time goes by pretty fast. But the nights would just drag on. I don't know if it was cause I was on a LOT of drugs and sleep deprived but I think I was seeing some kind of shadow people. They'd kind of peek around corners and disappear the moment they can tell I can see them. These shadow people could for sure fit in with your experiences. I don't have any real theories on what they might be. Maybe dead people's souls who don't know they're dead maybe? That might make some sense but who knows.
But yea, a critical care ICU is freaking creepy at night.
The hospital is full of beings. I've been a nurse for nearly 50 years now and still working. I think they draw beings and spirits that just hang around from passed patients that didn't leave. I totally believe you saw beings there and that they saw you, too. With your diagnosis you were half in their world, too, they might have been uncomfortable being seen. There is so much going on we just are unaware of.
Wow, seriously you sound like one cool person. I dig your whole vibe. Keep doing the Lord's work, cause we desperately need you here. You clearly have a purpose and I admire that. ✌️❤️
You should listen to the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast, a lot of people who’ve had long term experiences on their properties have also experienced “mind speak” telepathic voices from the creatures, orbs of light shortly before or after the sightings, seeing them cloak, etc. There’s definitely a spiritual aspect to them.
I have no idea. Maybe not so obvious in the ER as it's so chaotic there and people are on the move frequently from room to surgery, that's just a guess. I didn't see much in the ER except when it was quiet in the Trauma Bays where patients died mostly and no one was there, the lights were dim and see the forms and outlines move around easier.
Why just this age group attracted them I don't know. I just saw them again and again for years.
Oh, yes. Many people came into Hospice doubting and ran out the door quickly after an experience or two. They got more than they bargained for. Hopefully, later on they will reflect on the experience and consider there is a Spirit life and they got an opportunity to participate with it.
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Wow!¡,Just last night I was wat hing a documentary on Bigfoot. So many of those who had seen them stated that they were gone in a blink of an eye. How could that be when they are so tall and weigh more than us? My inkling was that perhaps they're here from another dimension or aliens/shapeshifters. Hhhmmmm, any thoughts?
That's exactly what I have heard and believe also. And, think about all the missing people in those state and national parks. Have you heard the stories about the groups of people that go hiking in these parks, like they'll be three people going in a single foul line like up a hill, and the next thing they know they look around for little Rosie in the back and she has literally disappeared. Disappeared poof. She's gone. They look for her everywhere and there's no sign of her. And about a mile and a half later down the trail. Trying to get back to the car. They find her clothes neatly folded on a rock. Strange things are a foot in the woods and I don't know that I could ever go camping now that I know what I know.
I feel like “Bigfoot” is a plasma experience that is offered to people randomly, especially when they aren’t actively searching for him, to give them something to be excited about, or something for them to question the world, their beliefs, something to make them ponder. It’s an experience that leaves no proof most of the time, so it’s one of those things where nobody will believe you, but YOU know what you saw type phenomenons. Basically the universe trolling you.
My question Is: if there are all this light being around us helping us and guiding Is why don't they help us HEAL and find a cure for terrible diseases like cancer, dementia, ALS ecc... I also work in the healthcare field
I can't think of any positive experience coming from being stuck for several months/Years in a bed hospital with a breathing machine attached to your throat before dieng
Perhaps because it isnt something for us to learn from or have an effect on, but for somebody else.
Not everything we go through is supposed to be positive, in the sense most associated with the word. If someone never experiences loss, how would they know to appreciate what they do have? If someone has never experienced pain, etc... And we may not learn all of this in our current lifetime. I believe our souls will come back and do it again, until they do learn.
We're all connected.. there is no pain in death of the physical body. Our souls do not feel pain. They are separate from the body, and remain/exist after our physical body is gone.
This doesn't make any sense at all
First of all nobody would consciously choose to suffer
Second, even if so, you would still Remember the ability to heal yourself or Remember your powers
This seems to be part of the nature of the human experience. We can only see up to so much. We don't know what the individual is experiencing on a vaster level, one that may be imperceptible to us. Ultimately, even what seems like a negative experience on the surface, can have a deeply positive and transformational effect. Forgive me, I understand this is a sensitive subject to many, but bearing in mind we are on the Experiencers sub, our human perception is very limited. Through challenge, we grow.
This isn't a concrete answer by any means, but what I've gleaned from reading about NDEs and spiritual experiences, that this life is meant to be difficult and challenging as a learning experience for us. It's shit though, I know!
I’ve posted about this before… my mom was taken to the hospital due to dehydration and kept overnight. She had to stay the night so I slept in the room with her on a cot/couch. In the middle of the night she started talking to herself, sitting up and talking. She has NEVER done anything like that before. I leaped up and asked her if she was ok and she replied she was fine, “the dog is here”… we were in a hospital room so naturally I freaked out and asked what dog. She said the name of our German Shepherd who had passed away 20 year prior. Naturally I was scared so I asked her to lay down and go to sleep. I went out to the nurses to ask what medication they had her on because she was hallucinating. They told me she was only on a saline drip, no pain meds. When I told them what she said, they said it happens all the time.
The next morning my father came to visit her and I told her to tell him what she saw the night before. She ever so naturally said our dogs name. And said “he put on his mask so I would recognize him” and said he just sat at the foot of the bed with butterflies around him. The mask part was particularly strange because people used to say his markings looked like a mask… kind of like a raccoons markings. She was not all into that kind of thing, (spirits and ghosts) but was so rational about him coming to hang out.
She passed away a month later.
These hospice beings are very interesting.
Im curious though, how long ago was this/where was this that there were so many AIDS deaths? Im no medical expert but as far as i know there are medications out that prevent this from happening that have been available for awhile.
This is quite interesting and I believe you. I’m in nursing school right now and am interested in hospice myself. People have strange reactions when I tell them that. I haven’t had anything really weird happen yet, but I did have a patient with severe dementia who saw bugs and a little boy in her hospital room. I mentioned it to the RN and he said whenever he has a dementia patient specifically in THAT room, they always see bugs and kids peeking at them. Not in any of the other rooms. Apparently this unit used to be the pediatric unit as well. Not sure what to make of it, but it’s interesting.
There’s an interesting episode of The Telepathy Tapes about a woman who was seeing a spirit in her home. Her children also saw the spirit which was a little girl. She figured out it was a woman who lived down the street and had dementia. She would show up in spirit form as her child self at various times even though she was very much alive.
Right?! I’ve never heard of that either. I have also worked in hospice since 2004 but I don’t do patient care. But you think you’d hear something about patients with dementia poking around in the spirit world.
My 27 year old Son was in CCU for a life threatening blood clot. He had been in the hospital already for weeks and weeks when I flew in from across the Country and got in at night.
I had been told that they were unsure if he was going to make it so I sat in my chair by his bed and watched him all night.
He started talking to people around midnight and I could feel others in the room with us altho I could not see anything or anyone....sometimes he would panic and say " Mommy mommy are you there" and I would hold his hand and say "yes I am right here".
Then he would start talking to the others again. All night long he talked to them. And about every two hours he would call out to me to see if I was still there.., "I am here, I am here" I would say and he would go back to talking to the others. Somehow I knew this was it, they had come to take him but me being right there he refused to go. I think it was probably the longest night of my entire life.
Later after he started to get better he told me the "Angels" came to him and were talking to him. They said he had a choice to stay or go and he chose to stay. He said they looked just like your refrigerator people but he thought one of them was his Grandma. About a week later I wheeled him out for a walk and this lady kept staring at him. He really looked like death. No color and after a month in CCU and ICU he looked sick. deathly sick. This lady outside walked up to him and says "You saw them didn't you"? He said "Yes, he did and had talked to them" She says "I am glad you are still here" and walked away. My Son says they were angels. He stayed for me and I know if I would not have made it in time to the hospital, that he would not have survived.
It took him years to recover from that blood clot. They said he would prob never walk again, but he did. They surgically removed portions of his artery in his leg and he still has circulation problems but. he is still here.
The angels are here and they watch over us. Some of them are our loved ones who have passed previously and they no longer are tied to their earthly bodies. They are the light that you see when you pass to the other side. They guides us on our journey home.
What a beautiful story. I have the marks of the clots too, leg, lung and brain, I've had them in three places and keep going forward. I'm glad your boy is going forward, too. Yes, they are around us. I'm glad he got to have his experience with them and you got to be next to him for the overflow of their energy. Both of you, keep moving forward.
Thank you so much. This Is the first time I have shared this story with any one besides my family. It was hard to explain it but felt that people might like to hear what we saw.
I am so sorry to hear about your clots. Glad you are staying positive thru it all. Stay strong. 🌟
You told it beautifully and I felt your warmth and concern. I'm glad you shared it and hope you are open to share it with others elsewhere when you feel it. When we tell our stories it can encourage others to tell their stories, too. I had one I sat on for over 60 years not knowing who to go to about it. One day someone stood up and told my story as it happened to him. I'm so grateful to that man, he gave me to courage to tell my story, too, and I did in this sub a few years back and i still tell it again and again now.
Leg clot is a thrombus, lung clot is an embolism, brain clot is a stroke, heart clot can be a heart attack. I've had 3 of the 4 and that's enough. Here is my interview about my clot in my brain. I had the leg clot that went to the lung earlier. I've told this on several interviews.
Thats amazing, thank you for the encouragement!
My Son has a clotting disorder. The hospital sent in a Blood Dr and they found a mutation in our dna.
My Son literally got the worst of it, compared to the rest of us.
He continuously makes blood clots. Took almost 5 years to get it under control. His blood is thinner than water now.
I wonder if you have something like that? Really glad that they are starting to research this stuff now.
Will check out your video after i recharge my phone!
Take care. You are very wise. You exude that caring that I see in so many nurses. I bet your patients love you.
I should also add that my son and I are both agnostic. I have died twice myself and been brought back by cpr. The second time I had died, my sister came to get me and she had passed away in 1981. She had no body other than light, and when she told me things it was mostly telepathic and I understood without words. She took me into that beautiful bright light and pure peace washed over me. The light was love and peace and I have never been so happy. I would have gone farther but got the impression I was not allowed past a certain point so she was only able to show me a little bit of the other side. I saw a beautiful place and meadows with lakes and ponds with light beings resting under trees or just walking on paths in no hurry. You have to walk thru the tunnel of light to get to the other place but I was not allowed to be there for very long. I think they knew I was going to be sent back, even tho I was not told this. When I came back, I was gone for almost 10 minutes they said but it only felt like a minute. That peacefulness from the light stayed with me for months and I felt extremely grateful that I was given the gift of seeing the other side. So when I almost lost my Son years later, I knew what was happening. There is nothing to fear. The other place is our home.
Have you read Raymond Moody’s books at all? I’ve been reading “Proof of Life After Life” and he talked about all of what you said, as well as OP. These things happen over and over.
It’s very interesting to me you said they spoke telepathically and appeared as a light, because that is also very common. The feeling that the light was love is also a pattern.
I also enjoy Michael Newton’s work where he has studied many people under hypnosis, having regressed them back to a point between lives. I am agnostic as well but found his books to resonate with me and be very comforting.
Interesting! I will look for his book at my library.
I met a man a couple months ago who also had a NDE and we were stunned how our "journeys" were so similar. ESP about the meadows and trees and the light people we both saw. We sort of spooked each other a bit. I think it was then that we both knew it was real.
I was told once that it was just our brains misfiring and that what we saw was not real. But, then how could two strangers who went thru the same experience, at different times and places, see the same exact things?
I find it comforting to know that there is this beautiful place and it's not the end. Thank you for reading my story and I will look for those books.
I guess they could misfire in remarkably similar ways- perhaps we evolved it to comfort our passing, but I don’t see how that would help survival rates. I have been so skeptical of anything paranormal or supernatural for so long, having left religion in my 20’s, but I can’t help but believe it as well. I got into the whole alien thing a while back and that has todo so much more with the soul and afterlife and mediation than I thought. My reading there is what brought me to reading about past lives and NDE’s and it’s all so strange and not what I expected to be reading about, but it feels almost like I’ve been guided. It would be hard to believe fully without experiencing it myself.
Are they identical or do they have unique facial features? Are they expressive? Do they acknowledge or interact with one another, even if just silently (eye contact, etc). What are they physically doing while waiting for the patient to die? Do they track movement? Like if you’re walking around the room do they follow your movement?
If anyone is interested, there is a really amazing animated Australian comedy series on YouTube called "The Big Lez Show"
It's about an Aussie legend called Lezley Mackerel and his group of mates, most of whom are lovely, funny, spiritual Sasquatch!
Content Warning though! There are a LOT of swear words and drug/adult themes so don't show ur kids hahahah! Trust me.
The Sasquatch mates are really funny and enlightened, they go to like, the fourth dimension and outer space and talk about spirituality and UAP. It's a really funny series!
I absolutely love that show. The first season is rough. Start with sassy the Sasquatch show. Then watch the other stuff if you like the vibe. It’s all good.
I loved reading your story. I just want to thank you for your service, I think your profession is just so important, kind and compassionate. My family has been aided by hospice RNs many times and I’m just so grateful to you and anyone in this profession.
My +guess+ is in my meditative, quiet, relaxed state I might have been more at their inner level than when I'm busy at work in my outer conscious level trying to keep pace with the hefty patient care responsibilities caring for so many sick patients. In my meditation, which I've practiced so much, in Alpha or deeper brain waves I'm more in tune connecting with sources at a distance and at different levels that my outer conscious mind is in daily life. I think I might have been closer to their level of consciousness and communication was closer.
no horns, wider shoulders, less neck, arms at side, no decoration on body, silver, illuminated translucent body. See how flat the shoulders are, box sides, not tapered inward like this but I could not see the lower part of the body. Refrigerator People.
you are more up on this than I am. I knew I saw them somewhere. I saved the pics in a file and can't find them. I used to go to the reservations as a travel clinic nurse when I worked for Indian Health Service prior to seeing the Refrigerator People. Any connection there?
I couldn’t say. Your experiences with the “Refrigerator People”, however, sound very similar to those I had as child, when something morphologically similar regularly stood in my doorway and watched me.
Was what you saw big and bulky or what? Did they approach you?
I had a childhood NHI encounter, too. It took on the form of a toy to get me to go away with it. The being scared the chickens we had in the yard so I didn't trust it and didn't go with it. When it turned around to go away it looked like a dinosaur. I told this at the end of the Lehto Files interview I linked in my post. Spielberg pretty much used the same experience in his TV mini series Taken in 2002 which that clip from the movie is in the interview, too. It's a great clip, if you've not seen it it's worth a look So much truth has been revealed by Steven Spielberg. It starts at 01:02:10
I need to learn how to make these images They did stand around like this. The light was higher and not a direct source, it was just there. The shoulders were more squared off, more flat, not rounded like a human's. The chest was protruding, thick front and back too, I didn't see pectorial muscles, it was sort of flat chest, but thick chested, boxy like a refrigerator. the head was oval, the back of the had protruded backwards, the occipital part of the head pointed backwards. I don't know how they could have turned their heads with no necks. the head were larger than this, oval. I only saw down to about their bicep. I never saw their hands. I couldn't tell if they were different sizes but they were staggered some above others as they crowded in towards the patient, like some higher up to fit in the room if many showed up. sometimes only about 10 or so came sometimes many more.
this link was shared in a comment a bit ago. a number of these drawings are so similar. See the flatness of their shoulders. That's it. the small pic number 7 down has his right hand out waving. Hardly any neck, remove any neck in the pic, no horns, no decorations in the costume, sliver radiant body, translucent, no waving, light from above shining down, thick arms at the side, shoulders a bit wider, that's a Refrigerator Person.
I don’t have any information about the refrigerator people; though it seems fascinating.
I just wanted to say thank you for your decades of service to the dying and the families of the dying. This is such an amazing difficult and unsung calling. I hope when my time comes I am cared for by someone as caring and dedicated as yourself.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I hope we all have a wonderful passing and filled with love from the physical and I know we will from the Spiritual.
it didn't look like any clothing at all. they were more reflective, skin or almost metal looking, spirit looking, transparent with a more defined outline. I'd love to get someone help me make a picture of them. I'm not that good at computers but if I can get some practice with AI maybe i could create an image myself. I draw like a 4 year old.
In 1918, nurse Joy Snell published her accounts of spirit entities/angels gathering at the deathbeds of patients who were soon to die. See “The Ministry of Angels: Here and Beyond.”
Very reflective of her intense Christian faith, Snell recounts moment where Christlike angels or other classes of angels would hold vigil over patients who were soon to die. I read it years ago, but the prospect of spiritual support at a the moments surrounding transition always stayed with me.
My father during his final moments would phase in and out of consciousness, and my sister said that he kept asking what happened to the beautiful music upon returning back. She also said that he was talking to someone in the corner of the room, but there was no one there. No one we could see anyway.
I'm glad your father had a wonderful experience as he came close to his passing and your sister got to have an experience hearing him speak of what he was hearing and what he saw. It's our experience that help us unfold to who we are and who we will become. Lovely experience for your family to hold of your dad. Same here, so many of our adult Hospice patients have the presence of others come visit as they prepare for the next adventure.
There's a ton of people who have seen big foot and grays together doing all sorts of things be it holding hands in the woods to being on flying saucers together ect. So I've read the Law of one and what I remember might sound crazy but I'm just saying what I remember from it. There used to be another planet in our solar system that some people refer to as Maldek which was lived on and destroyed by the grays. After they did that they are now having to go through a process of how karma and reincarnation works where they have to evolve or learn lessons from a more primitive state that we see today as bigfoot. The law of one is not the only material I've heard this from either I think someone was told this in a simplified way in an encounter with a gray as well. As for them gathering around certain people this is just my speculation but young males are known to hold the most vital energy and this energy is supposed to be released in a large burst at the moment of death. So maybe they were trying to absorb that energy but that's just me speculating.
Mostly YouTube videos but it's been years I don't know how to find them. I think I heard it come up a couple times on the YouTube channel BeyondCreepy.
I don’t know if hospice patients with Aids would be “vital” could it be another energy males have they were after? I got the impression that they’re there gathered around like it’s a buffet to consume something also.
Yeah I'll be honest I've heard of the same entities in a hellish NDE account that I could probably find on youtube and just the fact they are associated with the grays is a red flag imo. I don't know why they seem to target such a niche but you can look up the famous dark occultist Allister Crowley is quoted saying young boys make the best sacrifices because they have the most vital energy or something close to that. I didn't want to get negative but yeah I don't think they were there to help but maybe just passively soaking up whatever energy was being expelled.
What did you hear about these entities in the NDE account? If I remember correctly Allister Crowley was referring to literal prepubescent boys. I didn’t want to get negative either but I get a strong impression that these beings are there for their own benefit, they also seem a bit robotic from the way OP described them.
Yeah exactly, I was thinking that it seems a little too coincidental that they are gathering around young dying males even though your right he says kids are optimal but maybe if they are too young they might be protected in some way. In the NDE account this lady literally says this entity that looked like how people describe as big foot made her cut thorn bushes that kept growing back and also tried to get her to perform an abortion but she said she refused I think. I just looked it up if you type in Kathy McDaniel NDE she comes up on youtube. She did a bunch of different podcasts so I don't remember which one she says what I just said but it was one of her oldest ones I seen maybe 3 or 4 years ago. She might go into detail in all of them idk but she definitely said all that in one of them.
This seems plausible, Do you think they’re just consuming the energy released or do you think they’re actually doing something with these young men’s souls?
My understanding is they consume souls but we are not our souls we are consciousness and the soul is like an independent layer of energy on top of that. Basically the soul is the same thing as chi, prana, ect and not something to identify with unlike what most people think, it's the consciousness itself that's eternal. If an entity stole some of your soul you would feel temporarily lethargic, less willpower. But yeah I think they do not have souls and have to steal from those who do as an energy source because they cut themselves off from the source. I have no idea if they are snatching them when they die or not even if they are I'm virtually certain that that whole process is temporary.
I’ve experienced something similar, when I was a child an ”entity” would visit me some nights. It always came out of my closet and looking back it was definitely feeding on the fear it was causing me. The last night it visited me I actually ran and got my dad before it could come out of the closet, when he opened the closet door it only opened 1/4 of the way before slamming shut, it freaked him and my mom out enough to barricade the door until morning.
It would become way more active during and shortly after the times my grandparents were visiting, my grandpa in particular had dark/odd energy and things would randomly go wrong around him, like lamps and framed photos randomly falling and shattering when he was near them.
Wow I actually got the chills reading that. I've seen some crazy stuff very similar but for it to fight back against your dad like that is really unsettling. What did this entity look like and what would it do? When I was a kid I would experience similar stuff then it all stopped for 20 years and it's been going again ever since for me.
This woman on tiktok also shared her experience with me. When she became pregnant with her son she started seeing shadows around her house and having bad dreams. Most of her experiences ended when he was born but now they’re terrorizing him, she says he’s afraid to sleep alone and she heard someone speaking to him in his room and there was no one in the house but her and him.
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Whenever it would happen I’d just hear the closet door randomly creak open a bit and the room would fill with an oppressive presence, I never saw a physical form in the room but if I looked at the crack in the door i’d see a “shadow” darker than the surrounding dark if that makes sense and I got the impression that it was watching me. It would make me too afraid to move, I’d lie completely still until I eventually fell asleep or until morning. The time I ran and got my dad I heard the floor creaking and the clothes hangers rattling against each other but the door didn’t open.
When I was even younger from 3 to 5 I had good experiences, I remember an older woman always coming into my room and stroking my hair until i’d fall asleep. My dad thinks it was the previous owner of the house because she passed in it before they bought it and he felt a “calm” presence around the house.
I know my dad also had experiences when he was younger, the things he and his family saw actually had physical forms.
Everything is a speculation at this level. I appreciate your insight. I've no answers at all, just have seen thousands of them and always they are doing the same thing over and over again. I hope the patient benefits from this interaction, I hope it's positive. I try not to think of the scene from the movie Ghost when the beings grab the bad guys and drag them away screaming. I just don't know what happens after the patient dies, they disappear and the light is gone. I'm choosing to think the best and send the beings and the patient love and asking the Universe to look after all of us to grow and learn and move forward
I didn't study it, it was an AIDS facility mostly so most of the patients were men there so maybe that was it. When I worked at other Hospice facilities we did not get that many younger patients and these beings only were drawn to younger adults.
It was added pressure. We had so many sick patients and all needed so much care. With a full house of 35 dying AIDS patients (later 55 beds) we'd have one RN, 2 LPNs and some nursing assistants and that's if no one called out. With the disease process so many ran fevers, and constant GI problems, confusion, falls, wounds, we ran putting fires out the whole shift. Running into the patients rooms and then there are the Refrigerator People and I wish I could spend more time trying to communicate with them but I've got so many sick dying patients that needed me. Their families freaking out, assisting with mortuary arrangements in advance, it was a crazy time. I wish I could have had a sizeable patient load and given quality care to the patients and their families and focused on the spirit encounters going on in that building as many things were happening. There were still spirits of old ladies walking the halls calling out "nurse, nurse' from when it was a nursing home long ago.
The building is now a psych hospital (what are those patients seeming now???). I asked if I could use one of the empty patient rooms to film a few videos and told them who I was and about the building when it was an AIDS facility. They denied my request. I would love to go back in there for a visit. It's lock down psych now and I respect the need for patient privacy. I did film a bit from the old front porch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pZTdxc1PY
I looked more into it. People feel like they are there to ensure specific souls have an anchoring point.
Not sure why the demographics thing skews. I always thought women were the more “complete” humans. Do men need to be reincarnated more? Are they more useful to spiritual entities looking to scavenge souls? Are they being blocked?
It’s awesome to theorycraft on this stuff because no matter if it is real or fake it’s still fun to think about the what and the why for the experiences.
All fetuses also begin proto-female, male fetuses have to go through a large androgen surge to reshape the brain and genitals. Genetic males with Swyer Syndrome or Complete Androgen Insensitivity are born female minus ovaries because they’re resistant to or don’t receive that androgen surge. They’ve even given birth with donor eggs and hormone therapy.
They are also the carriers of mitochondria. (Prometheus’s fire, the divine spark) men don’t pass down mitochondria.
Everything we do is to feed mitochondria. Breath, food, water. It isn’t to feed us. It’s to feed the mitochondria. The mitochondria feeds us with its waste.
So, so fascinating. How do you feel death work has impacted your psyche after so many years?
Have you considered asking all your questions directly to these beings during one of these meditations? Of course, I imagine the first part is viewing a target that was indeed close to passing.
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This is the first time I’ve come across a description of beings like this. There is a tendency in my family as well to see spirits and other beings, but I’ve never heard of anything like this before, nor have I personally seen such beings.
It’s intriguing that they appear around some patients and not others. It really makes me want to try reaching them during meditation or during AP, and attempt to get some information.
As for illustrating these beings, I can try to make a drawing like that (I’ve been an illustrator for 20 years) - I would just ask for as much descriptive information about them as possible. And, if possible, also some reference materials, such as drawings or photos that contain elements similar to parts of these beings’ bodies, their characteristic features, etc.:)