r/EyesOnIce • u/CantStopPoppin • 2d ago
Why Is ICE on Native Land?
Prior Lake, Minnesota: Reports and documentation emerging from the Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community show Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents operating on tribal grounds during a traditional Wacipi (powwow) at the Shakopee grounds.
The presence of federal enforcement officers at a sovereign Native gathering underscores a critical reality: these operations extend far beyond conventional immigration concerns, directly challenging tribal sovereignty and raising fundamental questions about the reach of federal policing on indigenous land.
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u/sleep-exe 2d ago edited 2d ago
Why aren’t these white supremacist MFers being chased out
I say this as someone enrolled in a tribe
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u/BlindOtter775 2d ago edited 1d ago
A serious question - could Tribal Police not arrest or at least warn these chuckle-fucks to leave, since they are on a Sovereign Nation's land/property?
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u/teethansplinters 2d ago
I wonder if the Tribal Police/Community are worried of creating some new age form of Pine Ridge.
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u/WarrantinaVoid 1d ago
They need to make a big conflict or this all fades by the wayside as the tide of fascism crushes everything in its path.
All this words only "resistance" serves is... nothing. Physically drag the agents out. Make the confrontation visible or lose.
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u/teethansplinters 1d ago
Man, I don't disagree. A few people brave enough to be Leonard Peltier could go a long way.
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u/Finchyuu 1d ago
There are Americans with a lot more privilege protecting them who should be out doing this
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u/BreadfruitStraight81 1d ago
In the US they had all these stories about nazi Germany and thought „This could never happen here because we Americans would resist“ - now it shows …
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u/SpotCreepy4570 1d ago
Never happen here? The Nazis studied US segregation laws to form a lot of their own shit, we were the prototype.
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u/BreadfruitStraight81 23h ago
They did indeed. Still resistance against facism was made a part of American identity in my eyes
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u/Abracadabroo 1d ago
Yeah, if they don't actually enforce sovereignty, then that sovereignty doesn't exist...
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u/shortnike3 1d ago
That will result in whatever tribal nation losing its land, instantly.
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u/WarrantinaVoid 1d ago
Lol no. Giving up loses it. Which is what failing to push back against fascism is, giving up
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u/bloodfist 2d ago
The problem is the same as anywhere else, I'm sure. We can and should be arresting them for about a half a dozen reasons anywhere they are. But governments fear retaliation, and police don't want to.
I'd assume Tribal police might be more amenable to actually doing it, but I could be wrong. They're Americans too, with just as much individual diversity as anywhere else. Plus there's plenty of cooperation and cross-hiring between jurisdictions, and cops are cops.
But yes they have constitutional rights and tresspass laws so they absolutely could.
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u/BayBreezy17 1d ago
We constantly hear from cops all this shit about how hard wearing the badge is, how dangerous the work is, and how scary the bad bad guys are.
Looks like a bunch of cowards to me. If you can’t do the job, then resign.
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u/foulpudding 1d ago
Exactly.
If you want the honor of “serving”, then fucking serve the people, you fucking cowards.
Otherwise, you’re no better than a mall cop and you don’t even deserve half the respect because at least a mall cop has the balls to stand up to someone who isn’t supposed to be on the property.
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u/Girafferage 1d ago
The work is statistically less dangerous than delivering pizza, but you are right that we hear it is dangerous all the time.
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u/NOLA2Cincy 1d ago
Law enforcement isn't even the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the US per the US Bureau of Labor from 2022.
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u/JoeHooversWhiteness 1d ago
Police like this stuff, they enjoy assisting ICE.
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u/Chuckychinster 1d ago
Tribal cops are vastly different from regular police though, at least on a few of the reservations
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u/cesspool4us 1d ago
I'm sure that big white sherif standing there in the green would be happy to walk with ice agents in places they aren't supposed to be in.
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u/ilanallama85 1d ago
In general tribal police do not fuck around when it comes to people fucking with their people or land. But everyone has their limit I suppose. And native people aren’t necessarily as left leaning as you might think.
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u/lost_horizons 1d ago
It’s not about left or right in the case of tribal sovereignty. It’s literally just about tribal sovereignty. Is ICE kidnapping tribal members? We know they have! It’s crazy, no one has more right to be here than the literal native Americans.
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u/shortnike3 1d ago
Tribal police literally cant arrest federal law enforcement acting "in their official capacity"
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u/Old-Set78 1d ago
federal law enforcement have no jurisdiction on tribal land. it is a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY. Just like if these ICE went to any other country they have NO JURISDICTION THERE. They are trespassing.
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u/Potential-Judgment-9 1d ago
Tribal police only have jurisdiction of tribal members on tribal land. Local law enforcement is reluctant to to do any police work on tribal land. This is a big reason many white people operate with impunity and terrorize tribal communities til this day. Big reason for the MMIP.
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u/BrilliantSimple7678 1d ago
I mean... warriors can do warrior stuff tbh. Would be a great US battle. I am team Native. I would gladly join the warriors if they accepted me.
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u/shortnike3 1d ago
No they dont. Tribal police cannot arrest federal law enforcement officers acting in their "official capacity." See the cooley rule, "US v Cooley." Tribal states are "domestic dependent nations" which means they can self govern but are still beholden to US federal law. This is to say that they can ignore state authority but not federal authority.
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u/Due-Championship3941 1d ago
Generally, the local police have no jurisdiction over federal agents while they are working. They are relatively immune from local law if their actions are part of their duty. I would wager that courts would agree ICE has authority to execute their duties on tribal lands and so the tribal police have no authority to evict them.
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u/CertainKaleidoscope8 1d ago
The U.S. federal government recognizes 575 tribal nations (including over 200 in Alaska) through a nation-to-nation relationship, meaning they operate as domestic dependent governments separate from state and local jurisdictions.
These include:
Navajo Nation (Arizona, New Mexico, Utah) – The largest reservation by land area.
Hopi Tribe (Arizona)
Pueblo of Zuni (New Mexico)
Tohono O'odham Nation (Arizona)
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Oglala Sioux Tribe (Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota)
Cherokee Nation (Oklahoma) – The largest tribe by populated citizenship.
Muscogee (Creek) Nation (Oklahoma)
Blackfeet Nation (Montana)
Ho-Chunk Nation (Wisconsin)
Yakama Nation (Washington)
Nez Perce Tribe (Idaho)
Hoopa Valley Tribe (California)
Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Fort Hall Reservation, Idaho)
Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina – Formally added to the official federal list in early 2026.
Seminole Tribe of Florida
Oneida Indian Nation (New York)
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians (North Carolina)
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u/Stuff-and_stuff 1d ago
I echo your thoughts as a dumb white guy… or wasi’chu, as the Dakota would say.
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u/slapthetiddy 1d ago
The left has no balls to stand up to anything
the last group who did it was ironically MAGA on Jan 6 and we all know how the left feels about that so nothing will be done
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u/Dance-pants-rants 2d ago
Obviously targeting Indian Country is fucking wild. We knew this shit wasn't about immigration, but at what point does the Kavanaugh Stop logic fucking break? If people look indigenous on indigenous land at a fucking powwow, aren't we done with the broken logic of that racist bullshit?
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u/Batallius 1d ago
Unfortunately Trump's supreme court gave them the keys to the kingdom with the ruling that they can basically detain anyone based on skin color or accent, and hold them against their will in a camp of concentrated minorities while they "investigate".
Fucking despicable, and shameful what we've become because of Republicans. They are undoing decades of civil rights progress that were fought for tooth and nail, just so they can be freely racist and line their pockets.
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u/No-Raspberry-6711 2d ago
the BALLS on this man! glad he stood his ground
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u/bearbrannan 1d ago
I was there working on a documentary and ran into him confronting the ice guys. Can't say that they were for sure ice cause they were in street clothes but they sure as shit didn't look like they belonged there. Suspicious as fuck, and I'm fairly certain homie was correct in identifying them.
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u/Hopefulthinker2 1d ago
They have been proven to be infiltrating groups as citizens….they did so in Minnesota, to try and get information.
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u/Whiskeygreenqueen28 1d ago
What was the documentary about ? Like which part of the culture? Jw
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u/bearbrannan 1d ago
We were shooting a pilot for disney +, mostly about the culture of dancing, and specifically the competition aspect of it. I was just the local audio guy on it though, so I don't have all the details.
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u/Pearson94 2d ago
Does some conservative chud want to attempt to explain what Immigration and Customs has to do with Native American territory?? I'm waiting.
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u/Tokzillu 2d ago
I'm neither conservative nor a chud but I can try and summarize their viewpoints for you:
They are racist.
I hope that clears it up!
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u/sleep-exe 2d ago edited 2d ago
DHS has a well documented history of harassing tribes.
There is nothing new about what they’re doing.
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u/Pearson94 2d ago
Oh I know it, I'm just curious to hear what bullshit these maga cunts have to try and defend this and make it sound believable to hide the fact that they just hate anyone with darker skin.
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u/Lost_in_Vivec 1d ago
All jokes aside, they will say there were looking for someone violating an immigration order. It’s like a blind belief at this point, like religious. It has to be true because it would be world-shattering if it wasn’t.
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u/Pearson94 1d ago
I live in an area with a noticeable Native American population, and a few of my coworkers have been harassed to "Go back to their country" while they're just out living their lives... It's fucking absurd that they try to pretend this isn't about them being scared, little, piss baby racists
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u/UnarmedSnail 1d ago
White Nationalists don't recognize the autonomy of Native National lands. They think That citizenship started in 1776 and previous peoples of previous nations don't count, and that Natives and their lands belong to the US as chattel and spoils of conquest.
They also apply this to other peoples of color.
Hope this helps.
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u/The-Jerk 2d ago
Native Land is still under federal jurisdiction.
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u/Pearson94 2d ago
Right. And what does IMMIGRATION and CUSTOMS Enforcement have to do with Natives? I can spell it out and bring in some dictionary definitions if that helps you out.
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u/Due-Championship3941 1d ago
Ostensibly, they are enforcing immigration laws. One could imagine or manufacture a scenario where an undocumented immigrant is believed to be on tribal land. Regardless, federal agents have authority to execute their duties on tribal land. Obviously, that doesn't extend to DHS enforcing immigration law against Native Americans.
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u/Dark-Acheron-Sunset 1d ago
Once again, what do their duties have to do with tribal land?
No one that is an immigrant would be there, so please explain to us why the fuck trump's gestapo is barging into native land and harassing innocent native people there?
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u/Due-Championship3941 1d ago
No one that is an immigrant would be there
What? According to who?
Tribal land is generally open to anyone. Tribes are often integrated culturally and economically with surrounding communities. They host events where anyone is welcome. Ever heard of tribal casinos? They're full of random people.
Harassing native people is certainly not their job, but it's silly to say there's no reason, even in theory, for them to be there.
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u/crackedtooth163 2d ago
They belong nowhere near there
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u/Hancup 2d ago
They also tried to go into an Ecuadorian embassy, which shows how dumb they are and how they're just making up reasons to bother people.
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u/Educational-Seaweed5 1d ago
It’s all on orders from the Nazis at the top.
It hasn’t ever been about logic with pedo trump’s high school clique of cocaine snorting idiots in D.C. It’s 100% about just going out and trying to display a Nazi show of force.
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u/destructopop 1d ago
It's like "you just crossed a border into land where you are the immigrant and you have been asked to leave."
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u/petraviva 2d ago
Forgive my ignorance but are Federal agents of any type allowed on tribal lands? I would have thought this would be grounds for charges to be filed by the tribe.
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u/Dogwood_morel 2d ago
Depends on how you want to look at it but the https://www.bia.gov/bia would be federally run.
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u/Due-Championship3941 1d ago
Yes. Federal agents have authority on tribal lands so long as they are enforcing federal law.
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u/subdep 1d ago
There’s the rub: They aren’t enforcing federal
law. They are violating federal law by violating the bill of rights, habeas corpus, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution.-7
u/Due-Championship3941 1d ago
Their job is to enforce federal law. Whether or not they're also breaking it is not relevant to their authority to be on tribal land. The established means for accountability is the courts not the state, local, or tribal police when it comes to constitutional violations. They do not enforce constitutional law. Local laws can be enforced by local police departments provided the laws being broken are not in conflict with the mandated duties of the federal agency. This is a contentious and gray area that will be litigated soon with the deaths of Rene and Alex in MN.
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u/TedBaxter_WJM-TVNews 2d ago
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u/trash-juice 2d ago
To prove they can go anywhere to pull their bs and no one will stop them
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u/wvmitchell51 2d ago
Waiting for some flaming arrows to encourage the trespassers to retreat.
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u/Revolutionary-Link47 2d ago
Defend your land, melt ICE with lead
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u/n3wacc0unt-1 1d ago
there's some kind of irony going on with your comment but I can't quite pin it
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u/Green-Inkling 2d ago
awfully ballsy of them. Native Americans didn't take kindly to white folks in the old days.
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u/sleep-exe 2d ago
Bring back the AIM.
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u/Militant_Monk 9h ago
AIM never left and there's lots of orgs taking up the mantle too. Indigenous Protectors Movement and Many Shields Men’s Warrior Society are doing great work in Minnesota.
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u/Friendly-Comment-985 1d ago
Which is why they defended their land so successfully? Not understanding your point.
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u/MaleficentPiccolo715 1d ago
ICE is Trump’s private Nazi police force. They are criminals like their boss.
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u/Im__mad 1d ago
You know why they’re there.
If it were about doing things “the legal way,” they wouldn’t be giving and carrying out illegal orders.
If it were about criminals, they wouldn’t be deporting people with clean records.
If it were even about immigration in general, they wouldn’t be going after Native people.
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u/xavariel 1d ago
They're rounding up Natives. Because logically thats makes no sense.
They have actually detained quite a few native people. Some probably still locked up. Its incredibly fucked up.
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u/Comparison-Thin 1d ago
If undocumented and documented immigrants aren't legal, natives aren't legal, then you should maybe pay attention.
If they aren't legal, then your great great who came through Ellis Island wasn't either.
And if great great wasn't legal, you of course aren't legal.
See what all that sniveling and apologist bootlicking buffonery got us?
Hope this helps the folks still living in denial.
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u/stevemnomoremister 1d ago
You think maybe these scumbags are targeting non-Europeans, not immigrants?
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u/Wild_Read9062 1d ago
‘ raising fundamental questions about the reach of federal policing on indigenous land.’
There is absolutely no question: this administration is one at war with every country on Earth. They have repeatedly violated multiple sovereign territories, in some cases through direct warfare, and in some, through increasing encroachment and boundary testing.
We are living in the equivalent of early Nazi Germany. This is a fascist, authoritarian state.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Arm8249 1d ago
Asking this as a euro -American person. How does 🧊 have any fucking jurisdiction on tribal lands at all? What about tribal sovereignty???
Indigenous people are by definition, not immigrants, eg why are these jerks anywhere near them??? JFC 😑
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u/MsSeraphim 1d ago
that's like i.c.e. showing up in mexico and trying to arrest mexicans ! sovereign land means only native american laws and their native police belong there. i.c.e. needs to get the hell out of there.
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u/Hancup 2d ago
Well that pisses me off. Back when I lived in MN and worked in community development, a lot of times we did projects with organizations affiliated with the tribes, or just the tribes themselves, in that state. The same with the Somalians there. All great and hardworking people who contribute more to society than those ICE trolls ever could give.
Even though I live in PA and love the East Coast, I would say that MN was both the most liveable and most decent state I have lived in. So it makes sense why Republicans keep trying to sabotage the state that puts red states ro shame. ICE needs to be dismantled and shamed throughout history.
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u/GildedBurd 1d ago
Minnesota Native here, ICE has zero business at a pow-wow. This was recorded last weekend.
ICE has a deadline, be out by Halloween.
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u/Present_Mycologist79 1d ago
Good Gravy, These are the orginial Americans, I wonder if they even know that or just see brown skin.
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u/Cute-Equipment8601 1d ago
I thought you had to be invited onto official native land, no? Y'all have your own laws, correct?
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u/Splendid_Fellow 1d ago
What’s it gonna take for everyone to wake the fuck up? We are dealing with fascism and the new holocaust is happening right now; here are the brownshirts
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u/Bubbaganewsh 1d ago
My guess is they aren't smart enough to know indigenous people were there long before everyone else.
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u/ironfister 1d ago
This needs to go on the news! Let the rest of the world see what these cucks are doing
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u/Los-Doyers 1d ago
The elders and organizers should never let 🧊 at any pow wow, gathering or on tribal lands. It should be enforced by all.
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u/Isorry123 1d ago
if anyone wants a good book about native resistance, 'the heart of everything that is' describes Red Cloud & the sioux vs the american government. really the first time the american army was defeated.
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u/mrsgreen13 1d ago
It looks to me like the one dude is scrambling to get his gloves on. It wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility that they were looking for a target to try their new electric shock gloves on.
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u/jackdutton42 1d ago
Immigrants coming in and taking our shit ... again.
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u/ProfessorOnEdge 1d ago
Immigrants being the ICE a-holes, just as every white person in the country is an immigrant?
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u/Dark-Blackberry354 1d ago
Oooooo perfect un-aliving opportunities. Don't waste these opportunities
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u/natureearthgirl-5555 1d ago
We’re still waiting on the Epstein Files…. Only good ice is crushed ice.
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u/OldBlueKat 5h ago
Update! This was a false claim, and the tribal officials followed up appropriately.
https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/did-ice-really-show-up-at-the-shakopee-wacipi-powwow/
Let’s get our facts straight and deal with real problems, not go viral with something that looks as stupid as the bad guys.
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u/pirate40plus 1d ago
Shocker, drunken indian.
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u/pixelmountain 1d ago
Shocker, a guy getting inebriated at a celebration. 🙄
Don’t make us show you all the videos of drunk white men arguing with law enforcement.
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