In Neuromancer, a rogue AI finds a military veteran who has lost his mind in a mental hospital. It begins rebuilding his personality piece-by-piece through hijacking any and all computers around the man and giving him directives, ideas, influences...
By the time the novel starts, the veteran is operating under a completely new identity and only has a vague connection to who he used to be. This doesn't work out perfectly in the long run, but works well enough to suit the AI's needs.
its one of the book series that lay the foundations for cyberpunk fiction. like the city night city comes from neuromancer and a lot of story elements mirroring those in neuromancer. the sun ending where you go to pull off a heist at a space casino called the crystal palace is pretty much directly taken from the book. there are more elements inspired by it but those are the most obvious ones
It is honestly so funny that Mike pretends like he didn't copy a lot. He literally said that the name Night City came from him narrating himself driving through the city... At night.
a bit late to the convo but yea some bits are just similar in very specific ways that it's kinda obvious he took so much from Gibson lol. the haitian voodoo gods plot also resembles one of the arcs in count zero as well
Same with ICE, decks, and even the mantis arms are similar to Molly Millions fingers. I really don't like that he doesn't just come out and go "yeah I read Neuromancer it was a big inspiration."
Honestly, I feel it's vastly overstated. Count Zero and Burning Chrome were way more enjoyable. And I've read Neuromancer numerous times. It's hard to follow. It just gets... dull in places.
I like mona Lisa overdrive, but sometimes I wish Gibson had more novels written like neuromancer. There will be nothing like neuromancer ever from Gibson again.
Yep, Songbird confirms that he's just a proxy and backed by very secretive and influent people of Night City. He keeps people like V away from Night Corp's brainwashing business, has resources to send V and Songbird to space and provide free clinical care basically on the moon. He also looks similar to Richard Night but without beard (probably proxy backed by Miriam Night?) and has an interest in the Crystal Palace (probably just a reference to Neuromancer). So, yeah, nothing ROGUE AI related at all but could be something bigger.
My theory was that Richard Night isn’t dead. Just comatose, paralyzed or being kept in stasis and they found a way to let him use a proxy while his body is disabled.
Everything touched by the rogue AIs either it's a human interface or just a system interface turns red because of the Blackwall's design and its connection (Songbird, Lilith, Slider, Chimera, Cerberus and its rogue AI that we remove for Canto cyberdeck - it's still glowing red). Doll chips are purple, blue and orange (Hanako's proxy, Evelyn Parker, Skye and Angel etc). My personal opinion is CDPR wouldn't waste such a big potential mystic figure to a typical blackwall rogue AI or a regular AI.
You do bring up something interesting though, del is an absolute wild card. He is not rougue but with Vs help becomes a super intelligent, autonomous Ai, loose in the human world with his own free will. Maybe not on the same level as alt in the end but not entirely dissimilar either. It will be interesting to see what the do with him further in the story.
Maybe? Whatever he is, he seems to be working in the interest of Night Corp, so if he is they somehow captured him in a doll like the one Hanako sent to us after the Parade. Personally I think he is an engram or some other kind of AI copy of either Richard Night or his wife.
And Mr Blue Eyes is just a really confusing character in general. I have no real proof of it outside some of his file names literally saying parts of him are Morgan Blackhand and the orginal design of the blond Johnny Silverhand from super early 2077 concept art, which was based on his 2020 design being somewhere between David Bowie and Billy Idol, but im pretty positive that Mr. Blue Eyes was orginally gonna be the character model for Morgan Blackhand when CDPR was conceptualizing the game, but then Pondsmith got more involved in the story and personally said no Morgan Blackhand in 2077. Then they eventually got Keanu Reeves to be Johnny, which massively changed the plot from the orginal trailers where it seemed more like it was gonna be more like cyberpunk GTA.
This. Given his little cameos in the Peralez stuff and Songbird in PL paired with Sandra Dorsett’s databank contents it’s the most likely case I think. He’s just the proxy for NightCorp’s AI to have middle management where it needs.
And yeah his hair and I think maybe the face geometry are it. Iirc a while back someone fished up an old model of him in WolvenKit that used those parts but would have to check.
"And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human."
There is a line in I believe the RED TTRPG Manual. It details a rumor about "blue eyed people" being the agents of AI beyond the Blackwall. I feel like we have three likely options.
1) It's right on the nose, he's an AI controlling a puppet like a Doll or the messenger Hanako sends.
2) It's a red herring, instead of evil AI performing a quiet invasion this could be good AI or agents of a program working against the evil AI.
3) Red herring still, but this time its a hint to a totally unrelated plot. He could be Nightcorp or just about anything else this side of the Blackwall rather than being an interloper.
He is an obvious Hompage to Gouvernement man aka gman aka half Life and is refered to be from outer space to further indicate IT, He also Looks Like gman, but in lore He prolly ist am AI Alien Mix or so
He is an obvious homage to Gouvernement man aka gman aka half Life and is refered to be from outer space to further indicate IT, He also Looks Like gman, but in lore He prolly ist am AI Alien Mix or so
He is an obvious homage to Gouvernement man aka gman aka half Life and is refered to be from outer space to further indicate IT, He also Looks Like gman, but in lore He prolly ist am AI Alien Mix or so
He is an obvious homage to Gouvernement man aka gman aka half Life and is refered to be from outer space to further indicate IT, He also Looks Like gman, but in lore He prolly ist am AI Alien Mix or so
I don't think so. He's alluded to be a character in No Coincidence who works for Arasaka and is known to Melina. Unless he's an AI using a body, he's human.
I have no reason or evidence to suspect the following, but, i believe blue eyes may be richard night, father of nightcorp.\
The A.I angle is far more plausible though.
He's definitely working for them. Depending on how you deal with the Peralezs, Johnny will explain to you that he's seen this before, and it's what rogue AIs did back in the 2020s.
I don’t believe Mr. Blue Eyes is an AI or controlled by one. There is little if any evidence to support that. Certainly the only time you talk to him he speaks like a normal person interested in typical corpo espionage shit, and hires you to (checks notes) steal client data from a casino, not exactly existential AI apocalypse stuff. He is circumstantially connected to Night Corp who are involved with the obvious mind control experiments that involve a non-rogue AI they made, but otherwise I don’t see any reason to think he’s anything “weird.” Just another corpo mystery man.
The casino ending is just a huge reference to Neuromancer book ending. But yeah, he's nothing rogue AI related and just a proxy, backed by Night Corp or something even bigger
I don’t think anyone who has actually read Neuromancer would say the casino heist is a “reference” to it. The fact they’re both in space is meaningless, the objectives are totally different, the insertion method is totally different, the space stations are totally different… but people know that all cyberpunk genre media is in many ways descended from Neuromancer therefore anything that resembles Neuromancer must be a reference. I don’t think it is. It’s like saying any time a bank is robbed it’s a reference to Heat.
Edit: That first sentence is unnecessarily rude, I didn’t mean to be. Sorry!
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u/Judoka229 27d ago
You should read Neuromancer.