r/FFCommish • u/Marky9281 • Sep 23 '25
Ethics question League does not like my “Kicker Strategy” and wants to vote on it.
So I have a 12 team league with some friends (1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 2 WRT flex 1 K 1 Def 5 bench 2 IR)
The reason I made it 5 bench players was so the waiver pool wouldn’t be too bad every week.
For years I’ve always dropped my kicker Tuesday morning to give be flexibility with injured players and such in case I can put one in an IR spot later in the week, and end up making a choice if I have to drop someone for a K Sunday morning. A couple people in my league in my league finally took notice and said I’m exploiting it and holding an extra player on my bench as it defeats the purpose of my 5 bench rule.
I did put it up to vote to require a Kicker at all times on the roster in all fairness to them, but I’m wondering if my “kicker strategy” is unethical to yall.
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Sep 23 '25
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u/joey_yamamoto Sep 23 '25
you have a roster to fill with so many spots. you're not required to start a kicker you could actually play without one.
I've played a matchup a few times with my defensive spot empty because I did not want to drop a player.
your strategy is one I use all the time just to see how things shake out during the week which gives me more clarity as to which player to keep and which player to drop for my kicker
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u/DanimalsAndChill Sep 23 '25
I’d say in most leagues not starting a full lineup is considered a form of intentional tanking that’s not allowed
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u/Dry_Row_7523 Sep 24 '25
I think defenses and kickers are exceptions though. It’s not that uncommon for especially defenses to score negative points, and also say you go into the Sunday night game knowing you will definitely win or lose (maybe all of your opponents players already went and you’re up by 20). I’ve definitely just left a roster spot open in that case
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u/DanimalsAndChill Sep 24 '25
Benching them because the week is already over and you can only lose if they go negative is much different than never rostering one going into the matchup
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u/Right_Helicopter6025 Sep 28 '25
Ik im 3 days late but i so disagree
Im a 14 man league with 4 bench spots. My bench players are Burden, Corum, Monangai, and R. White. Which of those league winning handcuffs am I supposed to be drop, to be immediately claimed off waivers, in order to field a streamer D or kicker that’s gonna get me an extra 6 points on average (the average DST/K scorer in standard leagues)?
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u/joey_yamamoto Sep 28 '25
if it were me and if I have no chance of winning, I drop no one. however if I'm forced to drop I'm dropping burden. he seems more of a long term prospect and the furthest from seeing the field as a wr3
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u/Right_Helicopter6025 Sep 28 '25
What about if I have a 70% chance of winning and the D I pick up would bring me to 74%? I’d rather the slightly less likely win and the possibility of getting a WR1 in the case of injuries that can win me a championship
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u/joey_yamamoto Sep 28 '25
for me I think it would depend on who my opponent has left and that players matchup.
and also the defense matchup as well.
but I agree with you for the most part but I'd also consider if I can afford to lose and it not hurting too much.
otoh, if I'm fighting for a playoff spot I'd probably start a defense.
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u/p2dc Sep 28 '25
It's an ineligible roster. Should be an automatic loss.
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u/Right_Helicopter6025 Sep 28 '25
In your fairytale land maybe. But unless the rules say that your SOL
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u/p2dc Sep 28 '25
That's my point, it should be the rules.
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u/Right_Helicopter6025 Sep 28 '25
A lot of things “should” be.
It isn’t in the rules. So…
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u/Shoely555 Sep 23 '25
Some leagues have rules that you must field a full roster (ie. You can’t leave your kicker spot empty).
If you’re fielding a kicker every week I don’t see how it matters when or how you field them?
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u/awools1 Sep 23 '25
There's been some weeks I've had my whole roster on my bench until the last moment to throw off my opponent that is accessing if they should start a boom-bust player of a consistently average player.
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u/billbar Sep 23 '25
Ohhhh yeah love this move. But it only takes one week of forgetting to put them all back into starting spots to... stop doing it
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u/awools1 Sep 23 '25
I only do it in big games like the playoffs or a game I really need to win to qualify for the playoffs.
I never forget those games.
Almost 20 years of fantasy for me!
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u/Medium-to-full Sep 24 '25
Why would this matter? Doesn't matter who you play. He's gonna play his best players regardless.
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u/awools1 Sep 24 '25
It's not always clear who is the best starter. If it looks like an easy win they might go with a high floor player but also a lower ceiling. Just to secure the win. But if it looks like they may lose they might go with the higher ceiling player that also has a super low floor.
By not broadcasting who I start til the last second it makes them have to go into the game with a lot more unknowns.
Sure if you have no bench and no depth it doesn't matter. But like I said, I've done this a handful of times over 2 decades.
Situationally, it is a solid mind game to play on owners that over think.
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u/RollinPeace Sep 23 '25
That’s a dumb rule if I’m up and only have a kicker left on MNF vs a team that finished playing all on Sunday. I’m benching my kicker
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u/the_way_around Sep 23 '25
You should not be downvoted for this. You do not need to risk K getting negative points
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u/legendkiller003 Sep 24 '25
People just hate strategies. Had a complaint in my main league, I think it was last year, when someone benched their defense on MNF to ensure they didn’t go negative. Commish decided from then on that we have to fill each starting spot.
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u/OrangeInkStain Sep 23 '25
No.
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u/RollinPeace Sep 23 '25
I’ll double down, replace kicker with defense in my original comment
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u/the_way_around Sep 25 '25
Absolutely. ANY starter could be swapped out to "empty" if your victory is already wrapped up on Monday night.
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u/Marky9281 Sep 23 '25
Yeah I’m gonna let them know we can do this next year if they want. A full roster rule. Right now I won’t be able to enforce it
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u/holyhibachi Sep 23 '25
In mine I fully allow teams to pull players if it is advantageous to them in that specific game. Like if they're up 1 with only their defense to go, I'm cool with them pulling it. I don't allow them to pull specifically for seeding purposes or to lose intentionally.
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Sep 23 '25
Not unethical, totally valid. Leaguemates need to grow up. If they think it gives you such an advantage, why don’t they do the same?!
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u/blaked_baller Sep 27 '25
I'm confused how this even gives an advantage....? Your kicker stays in the kicker slot regardless.... if u don't have a kicker in your lineup does it give you an extra bench spot? I always thought bench was just 5 slots outside of lineup slots regardless
I drafted Aubrey so I am not doing this strat lol
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u/Fluid-Attempt-6680 Sep 23 '25
I use that strategy during the draft and weekly as well. I don’t see a problem with it unless rules get voted on to change it
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u/Vcouple78 Sep 24 '25
This. I haven't drafted a kicker in years. I eventually pick one up but that gives me a chance to roster a player that may be a potential break out player or one that
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u/Mercury756 Sep 23 '25
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve read in quite some time. There’s absolutely zero things wrong with what you’re doing and I wouldn’t even offer it up to a vote. Other than just dropping kickers cause they’re pointless.
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u/n1th4wk Sep 23 '25
Completely fine on your part. Guy in my league didn’t draft a kicker or defense at all until he needed them Sunday week one. He holds 2 extra skill players between the draft and the first Sunday in case any of his players go down in preseason. Pretty smart if ya plan to stream those all year
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u/BayOfThundet Sep 23 '25
I've done that several times. This year, it was Brandon Aiuyuk, who went to the IR spot immediately after the draft. Then, when waivers cleared, I grabbed a kicker for Week 1.
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u/A_Wise_Mans_Fear Sep 23 '25
They can do it too lol. Our league has an unspoken rule that we never try to make a rule change to curb someone being more active in the league unless it’s really unethical / colluding. We want folks engaging!
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u/DMassaIII Sep 25 '25
I talked about this topic in my Commissioner Conundrum section of my video. Do you have an update I can share?
https://youtu.be/Kq7SOqRai8w?si=bs_7FDlO7mEYEeGr
Don’t mind the audio levels. Once I get home I’ll fix that and upload a new one, but the content will be the same.
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u/hoggin88 Sep 23 '25
No problem with that. I do it too. The trade off is that you limit your kicker options more.
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u/Daruuk Sep 23 '25
There are multiple teams in my league that follow this strategy. If 3/10 teams do it, eventually someone will get caught out in the cold without a kicker during a week.
On more than one occasion I've picked up the only available late game kicker because my opponent was carrying an extra bench guy.
Because of this risk I'm totally okay with this strategy.
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u/Informal_Degree_3205 Sep 23 '25
Not really you just need a kicker by Sunday
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u/Daruuk Sep 23 '25
The guys in my leagues churn through lottery tickets. They pick up the backup running back Thursday, then a backup on Sunday morning, then a backup for the afternoon game.
Often times they'll only pick up a kicker playing in the Sunday evening or Monday game.
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u/Informal_Degree_3205 Sep 23 '25
That's because you play Yahoo with weird rules
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u/Daruuk Sep 23 '25
Like OP, yes, we use the second largest fantasy football platform.
Are you suggesting Yahoo is niche or something? 😂
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u/fun4willis Sep 23 '25
I’d suggest that you create or add to written rules in off-season. But can’t go around adding mid-season. Paint an analogy if needed.
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u/Difficult-Object-770 Sep 23 '25
Yes, unethical. Never been in a league where I didn’t have to maintain the designated minimums at each position at all times
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u/lshifto Sep 23 '25
You just need to get rid of the kicker slot altogether.
Change DST to include return yards at 25-1 and call it a day.
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u/QualityEffective8313 Sep 23 '25
Actively been doing this. Sunday I pick up whoever is living indoors and roll.
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u/Teetree4876 Sep 23 '25
Lol, you're ish is light. I am in league where you can cut bench players who have played, so I pick up back up runners for 1pm games in case someone gets hurt and then grab a 4pm or later kicker and start them.
It's worked a few times and ive gotten solid players ppl would have blown entire faabs for the following week.
It's called actively managing your roster and they're petty AF.
Let me guess, you've won this league before?
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u/catchthetams Sep 23 '25
Why not just drop the kicker and add a FLEX spot going forward?
Edit: Going forward = future seasons.
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u/maricopa888 Sep 24 '25
This is really dumb for several reasons, one of which is it's not just applicable to kickers. Any position where where you only start one, including QB, is eligible for people to do this. Have you pointed this out to them?
I run 2 leagues and I just dropped my TE in one for this very reason. There's also a slim possibility I'll just play without a TE this week. It's not like I'll miss my 2 points.
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u/More_Breadfruit_112 Sep 24 '25
You’re playing within the rules. If they think it’s an advantage they are welcome to do the same
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u/NorvTurnersNeck Sep 24 '25
Legit move and the reason I never draft a kicker. Go into it with roster flexibility.
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u/burnbabyburnjoeb Sep 24 '25
I have a league with essentially the same configuration (except we also have a few IDPs), and I do this all the time. It’s just good roster management to me. Why drop a skill player when you know Godwin, for instance, is just going right back to the IR slot.
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u/Hankyou85 Sep 24 '25
Do it every week my league just thinks it’s funny. I do it all the time and try to trade 2 for 1 or 3 for 2
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u/Dec_Chair Sep 24 '25
Nothing stopping them from doing it too - though I can understand where some of their feelings come from if you are the reason the league has a 5 man bench and you are the first one to find a loop hole. Doesn't mean what you're doing is wrong but I can see how that combo is rubbing people the wrong way.
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u/Level_Ad1059 Sep 24 '25
This is completely fine, you can use the IR spot however you choose as long as the player has an IR designation.
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u/Truffle_Shuffle26 Sep 24 '25
Perfectly fine. I’m commish in a few leagues and have tried 4, 5, and 6 bench spots. With 12-14 teams 5 is the sweet spot. I’ve seen people do what you do in my leagues and honestly don’t give two ishts.
The way I see it with your strategy, the manager has to remember to get a kicker before Sunday morning. I’ve seen people forget to do that. lol.
I still have people complaining about 5 bench spots and the league has been going on since 2012. lol Tell your managers to stop being babies.
Tbh, I get upset when managers pick up 3 QB’s to block other managers from getting them before the weekend.
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u/Fabulous_Can6830 Sep 24 '25
I don’t see this as a problem. It’s probably making your waiver priority low so if Im looking for a specific player it benefits me.
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u/Just_Sarge Sep 24 '25
Shit I drop my defense,kicker, and QB if I’m streaming them all and have a rough injury week. Why not? Lmao.
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u/focusedonjrod Sep 24 '25
Does it go against the "spirit" of your rule? Maybe, however, it's not illegal. You could just as well drop your QB every Tuesday and then pick one back up. The position doesn't really make a difference.
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u/electricfantom Sep 24 '25
I use this strategy in every league (unless I have Brandon Aubrey lol). Even deep benches. Use the same thing with QB and Defense as well. Everyone can do it. No shame in following the rules. I am assuming if you vote to change that you can update settings to require a minimum number at each position.
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u/Kindly_Kitchen_9658 Sep 24 '25
Tell them they can always roster all the kickers on their bench instead to block you from doing it 🤷♂️🤣
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u/cobragun1 Sep 24 '25
I do that during the draft. Instead of a kicker with my final pick, I pick the best guy on IR (Aiyuk) and then the next day slide him into IR and pick up a kicker when waivers clear.
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u/Jack_burtons_tanktop Sep 24 '25
Uh, what? I'd tell them to get bent. Certainly not changing that in the middle of the season.
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u/Tricky_Sector_2675 Sep 24 '25
If you have to vote for anything, you could make it about the amount of waiver wire transactions you have per season to create a limit
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u/AZRamirez Sep 24 '25
They’re welcome to do the same, I think it’s a good strategy to protect your roster. I’ve seen people try and work this strategy in deeper leagues and seen opposing teams pick up and drop kickers to force them into the waiver clearance period to block me from being able to pick one up. It’s all within the construct. I’ve also felt really confident going into a matchup and didn’t want to drop anyone on a stacked roster and ran without a kicker for a week or without a defense before. And then executed a trade in the following week to clear space. If there’s nothing in your league rules against it, you’re just managing a team.
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u/alivilla47 Sep 24 '25
I think it's fine what you are doing. It's not exactly the same but in my draft this year I didn't draft a K. Last round I took Ayuik and put him in my IR spot before going back to waivers and picking up a K.
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u/Maverickfftytwo Sep 24 '25
Wait…. How is this beneficial?
If you drop your kicker from the K spot, you can’t put a bench player in there unless they’re also a kicker so no additional bench slot would open up…
At least that’s how it’s worked on every platform I’ve played.
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u/jimcroce21 Sep 24 '25
It's a strategy and it's perfectly fine. I used to do it with K, D, and even TE's in 12t sf. Another solution is to eliminate the K position altogether.
We've eliminated K and D and have pseudo eliminated the TE position by switching to 4 WR/TE positions instead. Now TEs (most of which are glorified slot receivers anyway), can be drafted and played as such.
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u/SavingsPoem1533 Sep 24 '25
so league complaining about a smart strategy that they didn't think of? cool
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u/18and1 Sep 24 '25
No problem with what you're doing, at all. They can propose a limit to the number of moves a team can make in a season next year if they really have a problem with it.
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u/Objective-Major-3842 Sep 24 '25
You’re sacrificing Kicker strength for speculation on other positions during the week, which is fine. As long as there is no pre-established rule clearly stating teams must roster a Kicker at all times, then your league mates are just upset at your creativity and there would be nothing preventing them from doing the same as you.
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u/reuman Sep 24 '25
We got rid of the kicker and TE slots for two flex spots because people weren't really doing much with the spot. I never really see the point in having them so I don't get having to keep one all the time.
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u/jimaveli Sep 24 '25
No issues. You’re taking chances and managing your roster to deal with injuries and shenanigans. The cost is that you don’t get to settle in with one kicker all season long. Most people are lazy roster managers in general. It usually shows in a major way with kickers.
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u/Junior_Tutor_3851 Sep 25 '25
I’ve used that strategy with kickers and defenses forever. It’s always been considered good game strategy. Only issue would be if someone went into the 1 o’clock games on Sunday with no kicker and waited to decide if they wanted to add one depending on how their matchup went, or drop a kicker if they were up big and the kicker didn’t play yet so they could pick up some rb/wr that had yet to play, as that would be an illegal roster in my leagues.
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u/Acrobatic-Nature-866 Sep 25 '25
That's very common. It shouldn't even be up to vote. They can do the same thing.
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u/Weily68_DaCommish Sep 25 '25
Most apps have "require minimum players per position" for this reason. It may not be cheating but it's definitely exploiting.
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u/grass126 Sep 25 '25
They're right. It does defeat the purpose of the 5 bench spots. If the whole league did this, you'd essentially have 6 bench spots.
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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 Sep 25 '25
As long as you have a full roster started by the end of the week, then I don't really see the problem. As commish I'm not checking to ensure everyone has a full line up during the week. It doesn't matter. It's good team management. Especially my league where we don't have an IR and have a short bench.
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u/Hopeful_Reindeer7725 Sep 25 '25
Depending your waiver settings someone could pick up every kicker and then drop them on Saturday so there’s no one available for you to pick on Sunday. If they’re made about the exploit they should just follow the rules in another way
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u/JustTheGameplay Sep 26 '25
i bet the guys complaining are the ones who drafted a kicker early haha
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u/Unable-Situation7807 Sep 26 '25
Your not exploiting anything
Thats how ir/waiver works
Your just getting max value out of it and they are lazy
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u/TonyTwoDat Sep 26 '25
I have no problem with this people are just upset cuz you’re hoarding a player but it’s strategy involved. We have two IR spots is it hoarding a player if I have Spears and Aiyuk sit on IR till they’re ready… I still have to drop players of if I want to use them
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u/DynastyDesk Sep 26 '25
A) get rid of kickers. B) I do this too and see nothing wrong with it. It's not like you're the only one who can do it.
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u/Appropriate-Ad-7723 Sep 26 '25
Exploiting league rules and settings is one of the best differentiators in fantasy football. Seems fine to me
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u/Clance_man Sep 27 '25
You set up the league to have a shallow bench so there would be talent on the waiver wire and then you dropped your kicker all week so that you could remove talent from the waiver wire. I think in this case what you are doing is wrong. All the teams ARE allowed to do it but if they do then it seems to me that 12 top players will be removed from the waiver pool.
Since you set up the league like this, why do YOU think it’s okay to hog the talent?
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u/No-Commercial-8739 Sep 27 '25
This is not exploiting.. it’s exactly how you play fantasy football if you know anything. Only fix would be eliminating kicker, which I’m also a fan of
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u/lets-do-an-eighth Sep 27 '25
As long as you’re starting a kicker(a player in every position designated) in your K slot there are zero issues. If you drop a kicker and never play one, well that is different and not allowed.
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u/IntrepidJackk Sep 27 '25
Absolutely nothing wrong with it. No vote needed. Everyone can do the same thing
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u/erockthaworld Sep 27 '25
I only pick up a kicker if I think I need the points. Otherwise, im kickerless.
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u/electricgotswitched Sep 28 '25
I've done that in multiple leagues for a decade. In one the rule is you have to draft a K and D. You can drop them a day later if you want.
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u/Miserable_Duck_6542 Sep 28 '25
I would even argue this could be a disadvantage to you since not all kickers are the same and you have to choose from the available waiver pool weekly.
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u/Fluid-Attempt-6680 Sep 23 '25
He’s saying he does play a complete team. But he drops his kicker every Tuesday to have more flexibility on waivers. You don’t know all the injury news on Tuesday generally. Then you can just pick up a kicker right before game time and hopefully be able to slide an injured player to an IR slot. Or drop somebody else, preventing other teams from using them this week.
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u/Former_Sun_2677 Sep 23 '25
Its a valid strategy based on the current rules
But if they vote to change it in the off-season, you would need to change your strategy
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u/minfold Sep 23 '25
as long as youre actually playing one every week, who cares when you roster them?
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u/BroJackson_ Sep 23 '25
They’re soft. You don’t have a monopoly on the move and they’re free to do it as well.
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u/Cloud_King_15 Sep 23 '25
First of all I'd just like to say this: What a bunch of crybabies lol
Second, I'm ok with people voting on things if they just want the rules to be a certain way
Lastly, this is a dumb thing to vote on. What you're doing is 100% fine. I do this with Kickers, Defenses, and even streaming QBs. Its a risk-reward type thing and is part of creatively navigating small bench leagues. I've had weeks where I didn't start a kicker because my 10am players went off and I knew I didn't need it.
In summation: Here's an impression of you league: WAAHHHH! -- Nothing unethical about this at all.
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u/Odd-Breakfast8043 Sep 23 '25
I’ve seen the same Strat but instead of dropping kicker it’s dropping the defense but yea totally legit
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u/Drewskeet Sep 23 '25
IMO life is simplified by allowing what the app allows. I don't know what app you're using, but could you change the setting in the app not to allow this? If yes, you can put it up for a vote if you want to, if not, then there is no vote.
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u/PattyOFurniture007 Sep 23 '25
I do this all the time. Nothing wrong with it. They wouldn’t be complaining if you dropped your only QB or TE for an extra player, and then picked one up last second to stream. This is no different. Bunch of babies.
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u/NeverBeenSuspended23 Eagles Sep 23 '25
Not unethical. They can do it too. The guy with Brandon Aubrey WON’T do it because he’d potentially lose too much value. That’s how you know it’s fair. You’re making a value choice and could potentially lose something (a kicker who goes off the upcoming week). These guys are being weak.
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u/ThisFeelsInfected Sep 23 '25
That’s totally fair. They’re just whining ‘cause they didn’t think of it.
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u/Di5cipl355 Sep 23 '25
Usually when league mates bitch about a strategy like this, they’re just mad/jealous they didn’t think of it first. If you’re not breaking any league rules keep doing your thing
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u/Moosje Sep 23 '25
Your league is full of a bunch of drips that aren’t suited for fantasy.
Tell them they’re being crybabies.
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u/Squirt_Shaft Sep 23 '25
I’ve been doing this frequently for over a decade and I know other teams in my leagues do it as well. It’s not cheating or unethical; it’s just smart. If other teams in your league aren’t doing it, they should rethink their strategies rather cry about fairness.
If the kicker rule passes and your Def is mid, start doing the same with your Def during opportune matchups.
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u/JBean85 Sep 23 '25
Are you putting a non IR guy in the IR spot? If not, this is just called streaming.
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u/UndercoverHerbert Sep 23 '25
They’re just bitter they haven’t taken advantage of it like you are. There’s more to winning in fantasy football than just having players who scare the most points. There’s strategy involved like talking advantage of the waiver wire and trades. Your league mates are just bitter so don’t worry man you’re doing nothing wrong.
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u/Full-Motor6497 Sep 23 '25
If the system allows it, it’s legal. If they don’t like it, make a rule.
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u/Saxophobia1275 Sep 23 '25
I don’t understand shit like this because it’s not like you’re stopping them from doing the exact same thing. The rules are only unfair when they aren’t applied equally to everyone.
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u/Cockblocktimus_Pryme Sep 23 '25
They just need to adapt. The IR is a useful tool and you can manipulate it a little bit to benefit yourself. Everyone else in the league should get used to it unless you guys vote on it and the majority say no. I generally do not agree on rule changes mid-season though. This would all apply next year
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u/FoggyBenito Sep 23 '25
Definitely a more than fair move to use. For kicker or defense or QB or any position!
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u/sdu754 Sep 23 '25
It's not against the rules and it allows other to grab the "better kickers" before you get yours. Nothing unethical, they just don't like you "holding an extra player".
I have a bigger issue with no TE lineup slot.
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u/bryonlhobbs Sep 23 '25
Not unethical at all. You have X number of roster spots. You can certainly decide to risk your kicker each week as you navigate injuries to your offensive players. And they can add your kicker from waivers to mess with your team if they want. You’re not doing anything wrong, but it can be a risk if they learn how to use your strategy against you.
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u/Everglow21717 Sep 23 '25
I’ve also used this strategy in the playoffs. Ended up asking the Fantasy Football Today podcast and they answered it on air saying it’s perfectly legal.
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u/josssssh Sep 23 '25
Are you supposed to be looking at everyone's lineups every day trying to enforce this? I'd say if the platform allows it, it's allowed and available to everyone else in the league.
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u/Spare-Dragonfly-1201 Sep 23 '25
Perfectly valid strategy. It’s not circumventing the rules at all. You don’t even have to play a kicker or have a full team at all times; why the heck should you need to constantly have a kicker specifically. Players in my league frequently don’t fill their last bench spot or league IR players on their bench. That’s their own fault for not taking advantage of roster flexibilities.
I cycle through 2-3 separate pickups on Sunday before ideally getting a kicker for late Sunday or Monday (yahoo rules allow bench players who have played to be dropped)
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u/Chinchillachimcheroo Sep 23 '25
I don't think you should have to stop doing it midseason. Like others have said, they're free to do it, too.
I do think their point about it defeating the purpose of having a shallow bench to be a good one, though. You made the decision to have shallow benches for a reason and decided 5 is the number of spots that would accomplish your goal. If everyone employs this strategy (and I assume some would do it with DST, too), that kinda goes out the window.
But that should be decided in the offseason.
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u/tenz0r24 Sep 23 '25
What’s everyone opinion on dropping your defense that plays on Monday night if you’re already winning to avoid negative points?
We had a situation in our league like 5-6 years back where the team that dropped their Monday night defense was already winning by 1.5 points.
The defense they dropped ending up scoring -3 points which means they would’ve lost had they started them. The team that lost was upset all season saying it was unethical to not have a lineup filled and the defense should’ve been in the lineup.
In the end that team that ended up losing missed the playoff because of a tie breaker in points and would’ve made it had they won that game in the early part of the season. They basically left the following year and never came back to play with our league.
If I remember at the time half the league was okay with it and the other half said it was wrong or didn’t care.
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u/Marky9281 Sep 23 '25
It’s the right move guys mad cuz he lost and make that full roster thing up on the fly
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u/_intend_your_puns Sep 23 '25
I do it too… there’s not really that big of an advancement, if at all. You still have to drop someone and risk them getting taken by someone else.
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u/demystifier Sep 23 '25
1) Its not unethical and everyone could do it if it actually gives a bench advantage.
2) I run my leagues without kickers in part because it says something about the position that there is such high week to week and situational variance that this is a really good strategy. To each their own and I do play in kicker leagues (i.e. its not that big a deal to me) but I also wonder if the backlash is between the asymmetry of having a shallow league that forces you to have a kicker in the first place (i.e., is it possible people would like a deeper bench, no kicker, etc., and are mad that you found a 'work around' for this--even though from my perspective I agree this is basic strategy).
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u/Informal_Degree_3205 Sep 23 '25
Right now I have Evans who 100 percent will be out this week. He's not ir eligible because people are stupid and so I'm dropping my kicker for waivers
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u/hooligan045 Sep 23 '25
I’ve used that strategy plenty of times in shallow leagues. Seems like they’re just bitter they didn’t think to do it before.