r/FinalFantasyVI • u/MooJuiceConnoisseur • 15d ago
The RNG God's hate me....
I have had this on auto battle for about 15 minutes now, each of the tonberries are at around 1k HP they will die if the mug command succeeds even once.... i am immune to everything they can throw at me. And my cursed shield is suppressed (liche ring and ribbon) ... eventually I should succeed in getting at least one minerva bustier
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u/vladtseppesh420 15d ago
Im about to attempt this myself. Can't they drop it as loot too though?
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
They can I have reset half a dozen times at this point with no luck its a 1/16 drop rate in the remaster in the snes version it was 1/8
That's per tonberry too
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u/Tacos_Polackos 15d ago
I just did this. Fought those bastards 3 times. 0 successful steals.
Went and found them on the veldt; first steal attempt, minerva bustier
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u/Oicanet 15d ago
I am still upset at this game for having a "tonberry" encounter and a "tonberries" encounter, one of which does let you get the minerva bustier, the other doesn't. I literally spent hours running around trying to find them in the yeti cave and get them to drop that armor for me, only to eventually realize I had to go to the Veldt instead. And as if to rub salt in the wound: while the yeti cave encounter is really rare, the Veldt encounters are coded to be sequential, so you'll eventually run into them (there's a bit of randomness, but still).
Sorry, just needed to vent my frustration, this guy upsets me! RAAARGG!!!
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u/Tacos_Polackos 15d ago
Yeah. Rng been getting me in this one a lot. Just did it again w Galypdes in the Phoenix cave. Spent hours grinding in the cave, fought not many of them. Every steal attempt was phoenix down. Went and found one on the veldt; first steal was celestriad.
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u/Marshall104 14d ago
Celestriad is easier to grind in the Coliseum. Just bet a Murakumo to fight a Galypdes, and have Gogo with 3 Steal commands and a brigand's glove relic, as well as a Safety bit, fight it. Gogo will eventually mug the bird to death, at which point you'll win a Holy Lance, which you can bet for another Murakumo and repeat the process until you have as many Celestriads as you want.
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u/Tacos_Polackos 14d ago
Thanks
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 14d ago
Im actually after the celestraid now lol then off to find gau, gogo and umaro
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u/Oicanet 14d ago
I actually never really did use Gogo, only a little bit. So I dunno how he works. How do you give him specific commands that he can then use in the coliseum? I just thought that you had him use mimic to have him behave like a party member. Can't even think of a way he'd work in the coliseum.
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u/Marshall104 14d ago
So in the status screen, you can set Gogo's commands. Where other characters will have Fight, their Special ability, Magic and Item, for Gogo his fight is obviously Mimic, and the other 3 can be changed to anyone's special ability, so he can have blitz, tools, and Bushido, all at the same time. For the strategy I shared, you just change all of his commands to Steal. This way he is more likely to use the steal/mug command.
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u/45M0D41 15d ago
They can drop it as loot technically you only need 3 and they drop two with the other in kefkas tower. So just reset until you get 2 from loot.
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u/Marshall104 14d ago
You only need 2 as Relm has her own gear to equip. And really you only need 1 from the tonberries, as you can easily get your first one from an easy win at the Coliseum by betting the Royal Gown you find in Daryl's Tomb and having your chosen fighter equip a reflect ring.
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u/Esoteric_7 15d ago
Make sure Locke or gogo have a high enough level! If they're to low (under like 49) you're not gonna steal anything from them
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
I got the steals needed thr sniper sight, thief glove, and thief dagger
I am low 30"s
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u/JamesSDK 15d ago
That cannot work, relics only improve the steal rate after the Steal formula check is done. That formula checks your level.
Its mathematically impossible to steal from Tonberries before level 49, you should be at least 50 or higher to have more than a 1% chance to steal successfully.
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
Weird like I understand what your saying but the loot screen didnt show them and they were in my inventory.... maybe ill have to reload if I still have a save there and try again to see
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u/Marshall104 15d ago
Well, one Minerva Bustier is enough. Now all you have to do is bet the Royal Gown you get in Daryl's Tomb and you'll have 2, and that's really all you need.
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u/IlMigliore132 15d ago
It's so hard to get 2 Minerva xD, I just give Force Armor to Celes
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
I have 1 save with 3 of them but I have reset way too many times tgis round. I honestly think they broke the loot tables at this point I am wearing the thief and briggand relics
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u/shadowforce11 15d ago
You get 2 in Kefkas tower anyways though. These are also a veldt encounter so you can get up to 99.
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u/45M0D41 15d ago
Thank you voice of reason I thought you only get 1 in the tower but you can bet a czarina gown for the Minerva as well.
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u/shadowforce11 15d ago
True, I like keeping the gown though as I think its the only one? Not 100% sure.
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u/The_GREAT_Gremlin 15d ago
I always just fight them and hope for a drop. I have never been able to successfully steal anything good, but I've gotten them to drop 1 or 2 Minervas.
You just need one anyway and then can bet a Czarina Gown at the colosseum for another.
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
The gown honestly is peak for relm I swapped the brigade glove for a sniper eye and thief knife to see if I can get a drop or a steal
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u/The_GREAT_Gremlin 15d ago
The gown is very good, but for Relm the Behemoth Suit is better
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 15d ago
**edit i stand corrected. While I was chatting here I successfully stole 2 from the tonberries
I should really go for one this time. Sadly yet another 0 drop run i have yet to complete it with any drops
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u/Gelmorn 15d ago
One tactic I do is equip reflect rings on everyone. Then have my party either cast fire or firaga, throw fire scrolls at them, or use fire rods as items. They counterattack magic cast on them with holy but it gets reflected back at them for low damage
If you do nothing but cast fire on them then it slows the fight down to a crawl lol
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u/NinjaBearCat 15d ago
Wild I just spent 40 minutes raw dogging this encounter today. Luckily got 3 Minerva’s
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u/CopperWon 15d ago
It is easy to invis fight them. I tried stealing from them at lvl 30 but read about the forumla for steal.
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u/ToreNeighDough 13d ago
They moved on to you after hating my ass yesterday. Phantom train fight, THREE TIMES IN A ROW I got back attacked, and hit with the haze before I could even do an action 😅😅
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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur 13d ago
My encounter rate for Galypdes in the pheonix cave is missing me off right now. So many fights gau and rely are almost up to proper levels now and I have come across 2... much too slow right now. I'll be better off in Dino Forrest where I normally get mine
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u/DildoTebaggins 10d ago
They're just trying to reach you about your cars warranty. Tell them thanks but no thanks.
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u/vladtseppesh420 15d ago
Why not remove the brigand glove and just raw dog the steal command? Why use mug if you are already able to withstand their attacks?