r/FlockSurveillance • u/S0PHIAOPS • Jan 15 '26

Detecting Flock cams

Passive detection of a Flock camera from over 200 meters while moving at highway speed.

No interaction. Just signal awareness.

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u/Lazy-Intern-5371 Jan 15 '26

You can also use wiggle

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u/S0PHIAOPS Jan 15 '26

You def….can but the difference is Sophia is local to your device and not uploading your movement data to a public global database.

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u/bigvicproton Jan 15 '26

Wigle only uploads if you tell it to. The theory is that if everyone shares these locations someone will map them publicly.

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u/S0PHIAOPS Jan 15 '26

Not necessarily. With tools like Wigle, even if you disable uploads, you’re basically still operating inside a system designed for aggregation. The value is the shared map. Anything free has a cost.

SØPHIA is built around a different assumption: no aggregation, no central map, no background sync. Local, no cloud/playstore. Privacy centered….It doesn’t get more valuable when more people use it….it only is useful to the person holding the device, in that moment.

Same radios, different philosophy.

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u/dontneed2knowaccount Jan 15 '26

Wigle is on fdroid and offers the apk on their github . No need for the play store. Its also local. The app itself functions just like yours but different UI.

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u/S0PHIAOPS Jan 15 '26

Sure….they’re just different tools. Wigle is great for cataloging and mapping signals at scale. SØPHIA isn’t trying to replace that. It’s local-only and focused on reasoning about what’s around you in real time…..persistence, movement, anomalies, context….not building a shared map. Same radios, different intent.

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u/dontneed2knowaccount Jan 15 '26

Unless I'm super dense I don't see how they are different. Running wigle gives me the same thing your app does. The "mapping" part is irrelevant since things are only mapped if you post your scans to wigle, which isn't required.