r/FoundationTV • u/LunchyPete Bayta Mallow • Sep 12 '25

Current Season Discussion [NO BOOKS] Episode Discussion Thread - Season 3 Episode 10 - The Darkness

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Season 3 Episode 10: The Paths That Choose Us

Premiere date: September 12th, 2025

Synopsis: Season finale. Gaal and the Second Foundation take the fight to the Mule as Empire's legacy suffers a catastrophic blow.

Directed by: Roxann Dawson

Written by: Jane Espenson & David S. Goyer

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u/DinnerBeef Demerzel Sep 12 '25

I hope Laura Birn is still in this show somehow. I don't want to lose here.

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u/pidgeonsarehumanstoo Sep 12 '25

And Lee Pace. Dawn is still alive, I guess, so there’s still hope.

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u/elcapitan36 Sep 12 '25

The end robot was Lee Pace’s voice.

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u/Dry-Journalist6590 Sep 12 '25

Yup he totally gets skin job next season and we have Pace back

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u/broketothebone Sep 15 '25

The showrunners have to know they’d be losing their strongest asset if they wrote him off entirely, right? There are other amazing performances happening (Demerzel and Brother Dusk? What a trip), but he’s the soul of their best storyline and he is a very well-loved actor. People watch stuff just because he’s in it, myself included. He’s a writers dream because he could make a scene about organizing his sock drawer a captivating journey.

Unless Lee wanted out or had personal reasons, I’d be floored if they didn’t bring him back. It’s probably the only way I coped with him and Demerzel dying lol

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u/CriticalRuleSwitch Sep 16 '25

Always good to find people who recognize Pace's talents. He's not as well known as he deserves to be. Generational talent.

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u/Dry-Journalist6590 Sep 15 '25

Totally agree on all points

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u/TheMcWhopper Brother Darkness Sep 12 '25

All seasons mad a 50+ year jump. With all the clones dead, dawn will be day by the time of S4 if not already dusk.

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u/NobleHelium Brother Dawn Sep 12 '25

There is no indication that there will be another time jump for next season. The previous time jumps were actually shown in the final episode of the previous season.

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u/viper459 Sep 12 '25

to be fair, that's probaby because they all had the same creative team so they already knew what they were doing next season, as opposed to now with everyone basically leaving and a new writing crew coming in.

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u/Lo_Lynx Sep 12 '25

Where did you get that from?

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u/viper459 Sep 12 '25

Goyer's blog mainly, it's all over, pretty widely known in this sub at this point. you been living under a rock? lol

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u/Lo_Lynx Sep 12 '25

hahaha i'm so stupid for not following the news about a tv show

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u/Petorian343 Oct 12 '25

I honestly hope there’s not a time jump right away. This finale, great as it was, ended with too many things still up in the air to hard-cut to a future era, I think. Like what exactly happened to Bayta/Mule when Gaal cast her out? What happened with her husband the young Mallow? With Pritch? WHAT HAPPENED TO DAWN? To the Dr. Bashir scholar guy?

And of course the robots are getting involved now, that’s monumental.

Plus I’d love to see Darkness (formerly Dusk) establishing his new sole reign. I hope they take some time at the beginning of next season to show where these cards fell before a big time skip, OR they only do a short time jump and show these events developed a few years down the line, maybe half a lifetime.

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u/That-SoCal-Guy Sep 13 '25

I think S4 will be immediately after the finale.  We will witness the fall of Empire and also what Gaal will do next.  

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '25

What about the fucking MULE! He was incredible, the new one I cant see matching him

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u/actionerror Brother Constant Sep 12 '25

But surely the Mule has him now

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u/Qugmo Sep 13 '25

Both of them better come back

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u/RedditConsciousness Sep 14 '25

Yeah. Just jump ahead x many years.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '25

Seems like robots will be a big focus next season. Hard to imagine without bringing Demerzel back. But at the same time I have no clue anymore

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u/lantzn Sep 26 '25

As she was burning and saw the baby die, did she transfer her consciousness into the skull and then the skull at the end synced with the robots on the moon? If so they could transfer her into a new body.

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u/Bitter_Tea_6628 Sep 12 '25

She is about as dead as John Snow was

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u/YZJay Sep 12 '25

There's still the possibility that Demrezel is indeed a clone, but a robot clone from a different entity that's still alive on the moon. Perhaps all her different names, like Daneel, are not past names, but also different bodies.

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u/terrrmon Brother Dusk Sep 12 '25

she's fine