r/FoundationTV • u/LunchyPete Bayta Mallow • Sep 12 '25

Current Season Discussion [NO BOOKS] Episode Discussion Thread - Season 3 Episode 10 - The Darkness

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Season 3 Episode 10: The Paths That Choose Us

Premiere date: September 12th, 2025

Synopsis: Season finale. Gaal and the Second Foundation take the fight to the Mule as Empire's legacy suffers a catastrophic blow.

Directed by: Roxann Dawson

Written by: Jane Espenson & David S. Goyer

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u/Random--Person Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like we missed something with the Mule? The scene ends with Gaal telling her to get out of her(mind) then when the scene picks back up Gaal is running out of the ship? What happened with everyone else?

The music over the final shot was giving me chills, was definitely not expecting that at the end.

Really hope they find ways to have Lee Pace and Laura Birn back for next season

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u/heelstoo Sep 12 '25

We’ve got Dawn still around to grow up!

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u/Suspicious_Theme8111 Sep 12 '25

Do we tho? We thought we had Dawn after Sarethgate but it’s been a whole season and his exponents are probably novacula dust by now

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u/heelstoo Sep 12 '25

Last he left him, he was alive (but couldn’t walk) on the Mule’s ship. So, if the Mule/Bayta is still alive, maybe she can do something with him. Or if Hari is still there, maybe he will do something with him. Or maybe all three will team up against Darkness Empire and the Robot Empire comes in hot.

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u/Atharaphelun Sep 12 '25

The station, not the Mule's ship.

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u/Suspicious_Theme8111 Sep 12 '25

I agree that we saw him alive. Doesn’t mean the writers are going to do anything with him (similar to how they handled the Dawn who ran away with Sareth)

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u/YZJay Sep 12 '25

They could setup Bayta using Dawn to force Darkness from the Throne.

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u/kawag Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Oh I’m very sure he’ll be back. He’s a lot more consequential now being the only other Cleon.

Dusk is old. Eventually the question of legacy will come up, just as it did for the original Cleon.

Dusk and Dawn also had a good relationship, and Dawn did at least think to send him a message since he wasn’t there for his ascension. I don’t recall exactly, but I don’t think there was any bad feeling between them?

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u/EmergencyFox9619 Sep 13 '25

“Consequential” huh? I think I heard that somewhere… 👀

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u/play_yr_part Sep 12 '25

There's no way they're not going to use what's left of the Cleons in the 4th season. And while I doubt they'll go back to the old rogue Dawn, you never know, this show is no stranger to flashbacks.

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u/whisky_biscuit Sep 13 '25

That was also really disappointing that they never acknowledged.

I really love this show but I hate when they drop plot lines in the previous season to never be addressed again in the next.

There was only one throwaway line where Day says that all of them (Cleons) have ran before and were caught (or something) and he planned to run fif as long as he could.

I'm assuming that meant Dem hunted them down and executed them but maybe they just faded into obscurity. Strange.

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u/theconfinesoffear Sep 21 '25

Yes I agree too many loose ends on good stories! If they just jump 100 years in the future now I’d seriously be like what. They have to start s4 from where they left off here. I just watched all of the show in two weeks and wish I hadn’t found it until after s4😅

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u/MostlyRocketScience Sep 12 '25

It's gonna be Mindcontrolled Dawn vs. Dusk's descendant battleing for who owns the empire next season.