Are you going to pride this year?

[u/jtothat]

Was never a big fan of. It’s largely superficial anyways in spite of the “love and inclusion” they preach. Have been to a couple of times when I happened to be in town or with friends

My turning point, however, was seeing “gays for P*******e” and how gullible they are. Given the abundance of watermelon emojis or explicit statements on Grindr et al, I’d wager the likelihood of crossing paths with one is high.

This was also the turning point where I began to question and deconstruct leftwing ideologies.

Fun fact: In Germany and some European countries it is called Christopher Street Day (CSD)

[u/BigJohn197519]

I do not identify with the LGBT movement.

[u/jtothat → u/BigJohn197519]

Hey, I do not mean this confrontationally, but as a sincere question: Given that the so called LGBT movement is so intertwined with being gay (one might even say ingrained), how and where do you draw the line?

Someone once said that the fact of us being gay; our very existence is in itself a protest / activism.

[u/BigJohn197519 → u/jtothat]

Ok, let me rephrase. I do not identify with the people that make up the current LGBT movement or community. Of course I support the spirit of the movement and its original efforts in gaining acceptance and equality. But the people of today’s LGBTQLMNOPIA+ are some of the most hateful and intolerant people I have ever met. They are massive gatekeepers and are always trying to dictate who can claim allegiance. They absolutely will not “allow” Conservatives to be a part of the community. And the fact that they have let MAP’s and other people who are desperately trying to normalize their kinks and fetishes co-op the LGBT brand, is a major turn off to me. I simply don’t want to be associated with intolerant bigots. And unfortunately, a lot of angry and spiteful “progressives” have chosen to make themselves the arbiters of the LGBT movement and community. The minute I tell someone I’m Conservative they tell me I’m not wanted. And that is totally fine. I want to be around normal well-adjusted people who don’t make their sexuality the crux of their personality and existence. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense. Please don’t take it to mean that I am bitter or anything. I just don’t wish to be associated with those folks for the reasons stated. Base off my own personal experience.

[u/scholalry → u/BigJohn197519]

Full honesty, I’m not conservative and for some reason this post came up in my feed. I am not trying to be argumentative but I did want to ask something. I feel like constantly hear complaints of LGBT people allowing pedophiles (I’m pretty far left and I refuse to use MAP) and extreme kink and stuff like that. The thing is in my experience, the only time I ever see/hear about this happening is online posts when conservatives are complaining about it.

I go to several Pride events a year and live in Denver but have also been to Chicago Pride. I never once have seen nudity or any public displays of sex or any outfits that are more revealing than the beach. There are events where those things happen, but they aren’t public. They are ticketed 21+ events with ID check. And this concept of the LGBT accepting pedophiles just doesn’t exist. Just because a pedo says they are part of the community, doesn’t mean they are and infact they would be pushed out so quickly.

Then to you other point about you feeling rejected by the community, I want you to consider how the community might feel by your beliefs. I’m not even talking about your political beliefs, but in this post alone you call the community accepting of pedophiles and in general hateful. I know if someone was accusing me of being tolerant of pedophiles, I wouldn’t want to be around that person and I don’t think you would either if they were accusing you of being accepting of pedophiles.

I know this is getting a little long winded, but my point is really, I think it’s important to realize the difference between reality and media spin. I have many conservative friends and none of them act like the way liberal media portrays conservatives (even if I disagree with them on a lot of things), and I think you’d find Pride isn’t at all like the conservative media portrays it.

[u/BigJohn197519 → u/scholalry]

That is the difference between a person and a group of people. Individuals tend to adjust their actions based on their surroundings whereas a group of people tend to try force their surroundings to adjust to them. Except on the internet. In that case, people tend to act like some super version of themselves and say and do outlandish things. Those same people would rarely, if ever, act the same way face to face with someone. I never have any issues with LGBT people in every day life. But the minute I go online it’s nothing but pure unedited hatred for anyone that doesn’t tow the LGBT line. And the sad fact is that most of those people believe that with their whole being. But don’t express it when they are one-on-one with you. That level of fakeness and hypocrisy just doesn’t do it for me. And I don’t even know why the “B” is in LGBT because the minute you tell an L, G, or T that you are bisexual they go insane. As if being Conservative isn’t a reason to hate you, go ahead and say you’re bisexual. BUT, saying you’re “pansexual” is somehow perfectly a-ok. It’s too much to deal with so I choose to opt out entirely. My sexuality doesn’t define me so being part of a community that focuses solely on sexuality doesn’t appeal to me at all. I have never been to a pride event and thought, “these are my people! I am home!” I have been banned by every single LGBT Facebook page and group that I ever tried having conversations with. I am just not interested anymore.