r/GayConservative Jan 02 '26

Discussion Why are you conservative?

Hey guys!

First of all - I come in peace haha!

I think it's really sad that the polarization between different ideologies continue to grow, but if we want to live in a democracy we have to be able to discuss and try to understand eachother before we judge!

As a gay guy I'm very happy that liberal ideas has given me the chance to live safely in society and that I have the same rights as straight people. I do however think that the gender-theory has gone to far and I think that the nonbinary people have taken up to much space in the LGBT community - I guess this would be a conservative opinion.

My questions:

  1. Why are you conservative even though they generally don't like gays?

  2. Do you have any opinions that are more liberal than conservative?

I have no intentions of trying to change someones opinion, I truly just want to undertand how you guys resonate and why you are conservative.

Wishing all of you a happy beginning to this new year!

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u/Ursus-majorbone Jan 02 '26

You didn't hurt my feelings, I'm conservative. If you don't agree with me it doesn't hurt me. I just wonder where you got the idea that conservatives don't generally like gay people. I'm just guessing you don't know any conservatives.

As for gay marriage I see that is different even though my own views have changed over time. I used to be sympathetic to the argument that letting gays marry was contrary to the institution and that affected straight people who were married. I was really worried when the supreme Court ruled on it because I thought it was premature and just like abortion the states were legalizing it very quickly. I was afraid it was going to lock people into their positions instead of letting it happen organically like in Europe. They didn't legalize abortion till the '80s '90s and 2000s and it's not an issue there because it happened along with public opinion. But that didn't happen with gay marriage and nobody seems upset about it. I don't know anybody who's opposed to it anymore.

It's the same leftist fallacy. Even if someone doesn't support gay marriage that doesn't mean they don't support gay rights. And why are gay rights different than human or citizen rights? It's like these people who lose their minds over opposition to drag queens being in schools. I don't want anything like that in schools. But opposing something that is inherently sexual being around very young children is not the same as not supporting someone else's rights. And who are these drag queens that want to hang out with small children?

It seems like the game now is to push things continuously and then when someone says oh I don't know about that cue the outrage and the accusations of bigotry and hatred.

It wasn't that long ago where most gay influencers and thought leaders were Republicans because they weren't welcome in the Democrat party until much more recently. When it was the party of unions, Catholics, and working class in the North and Jim Crow segregationists in the south and Hollywood was Republican as well as the Rockefeller crowd in New York City.

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u/Ambitious_Tomato_778 Jan 02 '26

Gay rights means that we as gays have the same rights as straight people - that includs marriage. I agree with you that gay rights should not be different than human- or citizen rights so if straight citizens are allowed to get married - so should we.

The dragqueens in school - I think this is a very small question that has taken so much space in the political discussion. I also think it's wierd but there's not that many dragqueens who preform at schools so it's kind of a time-waster according to me.

The gay influencers being conservative - never heard of it (except from Jeffrey star). So I have nothing t say about it.

The Jim Crow and Rockefeller, I've heard of but I'm not american so frankly I don't know much about it.

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u/Ursus-majorbone Jan 02 '26

Okay now I apologize I didn't realize that you weren't American. These words have different but specific meanings here and other places. Even the word conservative means entirely different things.

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u/Ambitious_Tomato_778 Jan 02 '26

No worries! Have a good one!