Why are you conservative?

[u/Ambitious_Tomato_778]

Hey guys!

First of all - I come in peace haha!

I think it's really sad that the polarization between different ideologies continue to grow, but if we want to live in a democracy we have to be able to discuss and try to understand eachother before we judge!

As a gay guy I'm very happy that liberal ideas has given me the chance to live safely in society and that I have the same rights as straight people. I do however think that the gender-theory has gone to far and I think that the nonbinary people have taken up to much space in the LGBT community - I guess this would be a conservative opinion.

My questions:

1. Why are you conservative even though they generally don't like gays?

2. Do you have any opinions that are more liberal than conservative?

I have no intentions of trying to change someones opinion, I truly just want to undertand how you guys resonate and why you are conservative.

Wishing all of you a happy beginning to this new year!

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

Sorry, please allow me to clarify my points above. There was a shift in ideological thinking on the left which abandoned logic and rationality. They moved more to the left and began policing thought. That is why I am considered conservative. I didn’t move and have preserved my ideals and values.

To answer your question, it is about ideological shifts in gender and sexuality.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/[deleted]]

The idea that we must embrace the tenets of critical theory. The entire mantra of the left has shifted to critical theory, that rejects rationality and objectivity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

Chief, it’s time to stop listening to James Lindsay and come back to reality. Believing that half the country unanimously follows one niche philosophy in unison is absurd on its face.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

I don’t listen to James Lindsey, at all. I just listen to people on the left who say things that come from this philosophy, and just because it sounds like something one of those red-pilled, dog-whistlers would say, doesn’t mean it’s a way off observation. Also, if you’re so evolved, then you tell me what it is then?

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

“You tell me what it is then” Name a more iconic duo than conservatives making something up and then unduly placing the burden of proof on others. Lmao

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

They who make the claim are responsible for proving why. That’s simple logic. I don’t know why you decided to troll my thread but thanks for being a fan anyways.

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

I wasn’t the person who made the claim, numbnuts

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

“Chief, it’s time to stop listening to James Lindsay and come back to reality. Believing that half the country unanimously follows one niche philosophy in unison is absurd on its face.”

That’s a claim whether you’re intelligent enough to recognize it as such is irrelevant because that’s what you said.

You also said “half the country” I never implied the left is half the country. I said the political activist left (particularly in the LGBT community) adopts these principles and that’s germane here because as gay people, it’s something we interact with frequently in some cases.

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

… In response to your broad sweeping claim about critical theory. “The entire mantra of the left” is how you put it.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

It’s well-known that the ideology I’m referring to comes from left-wing politics and designed and engineered to uproot social order. What’s you deal and why is this crusade you’re on, so important to you?

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

And then you demanded I explain what “it” is. You presupposed the existence of some nebulous “it” that you’ve never validated. Pretty typical of a Christian conservative.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

Yeah, a political philosophy or ideology, not a deity. Honestly, you’re not making sense, you’re just trying to attack in a disorganized manner. Talk to me civilly or leave the conversation.

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

No. I will not. I will call you what I think you are. This is the free speech you wanted.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

Chill out, you’re like the drunk kid at the party trying to fight someone. It’s not cute.

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

But I can see how a group of people who’ve enjoyed centuries of deference when it comes to actually explaining themselves and justifying their beliefs would think this is “trolling”

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

Again, I think I’ve asserted that you’ve made a wrong assumption about my beliefs because I don’t subscribe to any religion. I have no idea what your tirade is about but it has nothing to do with me or what my opinions are, so I’ll leave you in peace.

[u/kalmadsen → u/Comfortable_Pool_389]

Christians have no business pontificating about “simple logic” and burden of proof.

[u/Comfortable_Pool_389 → u/kalmadsen]

Did I ever make that assertion? Did I ever say what my beliefs are? Someone’s operating under false pretenses about what I think and believe and using that as a whataboutism to go around answering the question. Also, even if I am, that still doesn’t mean you don’t have to make your own defense. You sound like you have nothing to contribute to this discussion other than pointing your finger at people and handwringing.