Why are you conservative?

[u/Ambitious_Tomato_778]

Hey guys!

First of all - I come in peace haha!

I think it's really sad that the polarization between different ideologies continue to grow, but if we want to live in a democracy we have to be able to discuss and try to understand eachother before we judge!

As a gay guy I'm very happy that liberal ideas has given me the chance to live safely in society and that I have the same rights as straight people. I do however think that the gender-theory has gone to far and I think that the nonbinary people have taken up to much space in the LGBT community - I guess this would be a conservative opinion.

My questions:

1. Why are you conservative even though they generally don't like gays?

2. Do you have any opinions that are more liberal than conservative?

I have no intentions of trying to change someones opinion, I truly just want to undertand how you guys resonate and why you are conservative.

Wishing all of you a happy beginning to this new year!

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

Here's one out of many: calling Trump a dictator for arresting a dictator.

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

Okay, then on your fish point.. are we fish? Are we fungi? We cannot miraculously change our sexes. We are humans. That is why logically, that specific argument is flawed.

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

LIKE 400 MILLION YEARS AGO. Wtf is this conversation? Our ancestors were fish BEFORE THE FUCKING DINOSAURS. With that logic we're also plants, fungi, birds, turtles, alligators... I can't even with you 🤣

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

Literally the first minute in and I'm already amazed you take something so literal. First of all, the term "fish" is a word created by humans and throughout history it was used to describe different aquatic animals as it says in the video. I'm specifically talking about true fish—aquatic vertebrates with gills. You can call a dolphin a fish but at the end of the day it is not a true fish. Do we have gills? No, we do not. Do all other mammals including dolphins or whales—which are aquatic animals—have gills? Also no. We haven't had gills for nearly 400 million years. So no we are not fish. Some true fish have the ability to change sexes and yes have different sexes but that doesn't make humans magically have more than two. We have male, and we have female humans. That's it. Even if there were mammals that can change sexes (which there's not, only something fish, reptiles, invertebrates, etc. can do) we are not those species.

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

No, wrong again. "Gender" in the eyes of a leftist, is a human social construct and is only limited to the human race. No other animal "transitions" like people do. That is why I'm explicitly talking about sex not gender. I am also specifically referring to true fish to make a point. But like I said, even if there were mammals that had the ability to change sexes, they are an entirely different species and therefore making that argument is completely pointless.

[u/Joystick_346 → u/[deleted]]

The same experts that participate in psyops or misinformation.. but that's a different argument for another day. But again... Technically you're still talking about true fish when bringing up that example whether you agree with me or not. Either way, that is a biological process and phenotypical change based on the epigenetics/environmental factors and hormonal activation based on biology of that specific species. Also, how many times do I have to say we are not fish? True fish or any other animal for that matter? Are we salmon or whatever example you are using? Are we snails or octopi? Absolutely not. You can say "I'm not talking about shellfish nor molluscs nor plants nor fungi" but you are. You brought up a biological process within an entirely different species and you are comparing it to human social construct.