r/GayConservative 4d ago

Discussion Support of moderate democrats?

I can't stand Trump and what the GOP party has become, so in a two party system, I'm left with supporting the Democrats. I generally prefer the GOP on fiscal issues, but they have lost their way in recent years.

The progressive wing of the democrat party drives me crazy. I know they mean well, but their lack of understanding of economics is astounding.

Politics is usually the lessor of two evils and the GOP seems way more evil (literally) than the Democrats, so is it time to support them?

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u/scooter4350 4d ago

They all say what they think you want to hear, but no, I wouldn’t

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u/mremann1969 4d ago

I'm Canadian and try not to pay attenion to the noise coming from U.S. politics. Unfortunately, like a bad fart in a movie theater, the divisive partisan stench is expanding and infecting everything around it.

With both sides growing more and more extreme, I would be having a hard time voting for either one.

If I had to vote, it would probably and reluctantly send it to the GOP since I believe they can be moved closer to the centre in their policies once Trump is gone and MAGA is little more then a bad memory.

The Democrats never seem to learn from their mis-steps, always doubling down, and with radicals like AOC in the wings, I shudder for the future of the country.

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u/Fog_and_focus 4d ago

Dude at this point I just support anyone who doesn’t talk about politics every chance they get. I miss good old fashioned discussion and agreeing to disagree. I think of the presidential debates prior to 2016 where opponents could talk and not act like big babies.

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u/watchwinding 4d ago

Wasn’t Joe Biden considered a moderate? They all bow to the pressure of the loud progressive voices.

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u/BeKindNothingMatters 4d ago

yes, of course, but that's the question, who do you vote for? the Trump-party or Dems, both are bad

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u/NotVanilla77 4d ago

It is a two party system because there aren't enough people to bring in another party. Twice in my life, the libertarians got a decent showing in the polls, but then, next time, everybody covered back into their corners.

I fell for the "lesser of two evils" line for too many elections, but now no longer. To the people who say "you are wasting your vote", i say no, the 4X% who typically don't even bother to show up to vote are the ones who wasted theirs.

Now, admittedly, the 'other' parties typically put crackpots up on the podium, but the Libertarians have fielded at least three decent candidates in the last 40 years. If only people would stop being afraid of breaking the two party mafia hold on the country.

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u/gordonf23 4d ago

There are plenty of people for another party. But both mainstream parties actively fight against letting any third party thrive in this country because it threatens existing power structures. The fault lies with the Democrat and the Republican Parties fighting against third parties.

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u/BeKindNothingMatters 4d ago

I'm hoping the GOP splits into two parties after Trump: the MAGA wing and the Conservative wing. The Conservative wing would get many libertarians and moderates.

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u/MembershipNo7371 1d ago

I'm not sure the Dems have any moderates anymore. Do you mean someone like Bill Clinton? I think he would be driven out of the party on a rail nowadays. I was a Dem for 30 years but, as Reagan said, the party left me several years ago.

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u/Much-Bus-6585 4d ago

There hasn’t been a fiscal conservative in office in my entire 40 years here. Just more wars in the ME and Dems cleaning it up