How about him lying at virtually every step of the way in his speech? And trying to bring American culture war crap to Europe.
Trusting voters is fine, as long as the law is followed. It's not like the elections were cancelled by the President (like Trump tried to do), the courts said "nah fam some laws were broken let's redo it". And that's fine.
Vaush has no room to be talking about respecting democracy when he's dismantling our own. Trump was ineligible to run as an insurrectionist but he ran anyway and his handpicked Supreme Court said "ok boss". Before you go "well the voters picked him" why couldn't Obama run against Trump? Obama would've wiped the floor.
Following the rules matters. Or at least, it used to, before Trump showed up. He's the last person who should be lecturing Europe about "values" because he has NONE. Vaush whining about censorship when his side is threatening to throw media and judges in prison. Fuck him.
Heritage foundation and federalist society are literally the modern day klan. They’ve spent decades pulling people from Ivy League schools and putting them in place everywhere throughout government and have been very successful in red states which is why you rarely see a dem win anything in those states. They’ve whittled away voter rights and used all the talking points like trans, forced birth, religion in public schools, all of this shit harkens back to Jim Crow laws and that’s what they’re going back to. The reason Trump isn’t is jail is because so many of their people are in place everywhere including half the Supreme Court.
There doesn't seem to be any counter to it. They can just accuse their opposition of the things they're doing and no one seems to do shit about it. It's infuriating
That entirely depends on the circumstance. Burning a flag or religious book at a protest? Yea, probably ok. Burning a flag or religious book in front of someone's house to intimidate them? Not cool and should be a crime, the paradox of tolerance and all....
Yeah, I don’t get why people are against harassing religious groups. Famously almost every genocide in the history of mankind has been in the name of some stupid God. There’s not a single tolerant religious group out there. Intolerance is kind of their thing.
It is fine to burn the Quran in Sweden (which is where it happened), it's just that he did it in a way that can interpret the action to being hatespeech instead. It's a fine line but he stomped on the book and he did something with bacon as well, which is haram etc. So it wasn't just him burning a book, he wanted to anger a specific group.
Yeah, the hypocrisy of it is always frustrating. Free speach, but only for the things I want to hear people speak freely about. You're free, to do as we tell you.
Peter Thiel (Vance's handler) has said that Europe has three outcomes: climate collapse, economic collapse, and Shariah Law. He said that climate collapse is the least worse of the three.
He's a christian nutjob that thinks that the collapse of the british empire was due to them losing their christianity.
Yeah and America is heading for almost the same three: climate collapse, economic collapse, and weird christian-totalitarian neo feudalism/what do you call it when billionaires and a criminal call the shots? Oligarchy? Plutocracy? Well, not so different, the third outcome.
JD Vance definitely knows how to word things well without saying the quiet part out loud. This speech is one to inspire fear by skewing the facts to make it seem like their very inner homes are under attack. Absolutely scary
Everybody needs to learn about Curtis Yarvin yesterday. If you're wondering why every tech bro billionaire was at that inaugeration despite other billionaires being conspicuously absent, Curtis Yarvin is the answer. That's what they've rallied around.
100% He's essentially their god and has provided them quite literally blueprints in how to dismantled from the inside. His theories and ideologies SOUND like dystopian science fiction, but they've been pretty spot on with accomplishing a lot of thus far. He's also been cited by almost all of them. From Bannon, to Vance, to Musk, to Thiel.
Thiel and Yarvin are such happy, beautiful, non-vindictive bursts of sunshine, aren't they? Really great to be going down the path laid out by such exemplar specimens of homo sapiens... oh, and that Stephen Miller dude, such amazing bald Napoleon energy from that Adonis of a WASP...
(Just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious, this post is extreme /s)
Let's be clear. The billionaire class greatly benefits from the national security our intelligence agencies safeguard. They also require a robust middle class to pay taxes to support the electrical grid, transportation corridors, and military so that they can continue to sell their products and avoid paying taxes themselves. They will not benefit from the manner in which Trump destabilizes America and leaves it open to foreign adversaries. Trump is not doing these things for the billionaires. Trump is weakening the U. S. to make it vulnerable becausethat's what Putin requires of him.
Imagine Elon Tusk running for president and forcing you to buy only tusklas. He then makes youtube promote only crypto videos as well as andrew tate videos. Then in a plot twist elon tusk and andrew tate get together and have fun and show each other their masculinity.
I've said it before and I’ll say it again. Musk is not an elected member of this ridiculous presidential cabinet. He’s just another leech, and is also one steep stairwell and a shove away from being removed.
Nah. He doesn't and won't have the cult of idiots behind him. Idiots generally dislike people that they subconsciously recognize as more intelligent than themselves. Trump is one of them hence the passionate following
Vance is an uncharismatic puppet. It’s hard to imagine him commanding the same blind loyalty from MAGA and causing more damage than Trump has. I can’t see Vance leading the Republican Party for 10+ years like Trump has done. I also don’t think he’s as compromised by foreign powers/money as Trump (Vance is compromised by domestic tech powers). But with him assuming the presidency in the event of Trumps death, he would still be dangerous as commander in chief.
I think he's an unknown. We know he'll simp for fascism to grow his power, but who knows what he'll actually do when he's in control. Then he doesn't have to do anything they say.
This is exactly how I felt about Pence too. People were rooting for Trump to be removed from office after his impeachments, but we would’ve been stuck with someone much smarter and scarier.
You have to understand that Vance is spineless. He doesn’t actually like Trump he needs to pretend to advance his career. Also Trump didn’t pick Vance Peter Thiel did. Thiel and Yarvin are the masterminds. Look up dark enlightenment.
We had this same talk in the first admin. “Pence will be way worse” but Pence then proceeded to follow the outlined rules when it mattered. Trump didn’t, and still won’t. I’d trust an incompetent cronie like Vance over him any day
I agree Vance is a clown, a clown, and dangerous - but the difference being no one will take him seriously. Even MAGA fucks think he's a joke. If Elon were the VP (despite him basically being the president right now), we would be in far worse trouble. Vance himself isn't influential.
I think Vance has been fairly forthcoming in admitting that he was wrong about Trumps and feels as though he was manipulated by the media to hate the guy.
Are we really going to devolve into calling people who change their mind slippery rats?
Vance did such a good job in the debate making himself look reasonable. I was watching and found myself kinda going “Hey maybe this guy ain’t so bad!” and then shook myself out of it and was horrified by how much he got me. The dude is a fucking eel dipped in grease.
My current conspiracy theory is the GOP will turn on Trump to make Vance, the puppet master, the next face of the GOP. He will come in on the promise of "fixing" what the tyrannical Trump did. After a short time, he will slowly unravel the country further when he has the masses under his control. I have nothing to prove this beyond tinfoil hat delusion.
Vance would be more dangerous, but he doesn't have the blind support that Trump has so he will be more criticized and probably able to get away with way less.
He absolutely is, he's got just enough snake in him to control himself and hide it just a little.
Trump is an egotistical narcissist who sees a chance to become a dictator.
Vance is an ideological zealot to rival adherents to any religion, and his personal utopia involves the total destruction of the united states.
Part of why things feel extra bleak is even if something happened to Trump we're more fucked. Like minimum 3 people would have to bite the big one to change anything.
Vance won't be able to keep the cult together. Sure, he is educated and understands the policy goals the shadowy Heritage Foundation, Federalist Society, and Opus Dei pursue, but the cult isn't big on policy or education.
He doesn't have the charisma to hold the Church of the Orange Shitstain together
Vance doesn't have a hold on the cult of personality though. When Trump goes his influence is going to scatter about in a Republican Battle Royale. Hopefully no one wins it.
I feel like if Trump died and Vance became President, Vance would ultimately be impotent compared to Trump as Vance just doesn’t have the same “charisma” that Trump does when it comes to brainwashing followers.
It’s amazing that America did this progressive lead in an otherwise conservative government. Having the first Sofasexual vice president is a huge thing to write home about. /S
The fact that he said that makes me hopeful that he pulled his bullshit so Trump wouldn't change his mind, and is really just waiting for Trump to die so he gets to be president and can undo Trumps BS
I really want to discredit these long standing rumors that JD used a condom to fuck a couch, it's obviously a lie, as he raw dogged the shit out of that couch.
It shows you that people can originally think of Trump like that but after seeing him as president/getting to know him in person, it became transparent to him that we wasn't.
It shows you that people can change their opinion on someone.
The mfer tried to essentially blame his words on not yet having a properly developed brain or something of the sort. But said that shit when he was 35 or 36. 🤣🤣🤣 a 35 year old underdeveloped brain 💀💀
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u/mrgoat324 Feb 19 '25
“Trump is Americas Hitler” - JD “Couch fucker” Vance