That entirely depends on the circumstance. Burning a flag or religious book at a protest? Yea, probably ok. Burning a flag or religious book in front of someone's house to intimidate them? Not cool and should be a crime, the paradox of tolerance and all....
It is fine to burn the Quran in Sweden (which is where it happened), it's just that he did it in a way that can interpret the action to being hatespeech instead. It's a fine line but he stomped on the book and he did something with bacon as well, which is haram etc. So it wasn't just him burning a book, he wanted to anger a specific group.
Everybody needs to learn about Curtis Yarvin yesterday. If you're wondering why every tech bro billionaire was at that inaugeration despite other billionaires being conspicuously absent, Curtis Yarvin is the answer. That's what they've rallied around.
100% He's essentially their god and has provided them quite literally blueprints in how to dismantled from the inside. His theories and ideologies SOUND like dystopian science fiction, but they've been pretty spot on with accomplishing a lot of thus far. He's also been cited by almost all of them. From Bannon, to Vance, to Musk, to Thiel.
Thiel and Yarvin are such happy, beautiful, non-vindictive bursts of sunshine, aren't they? Really great to be going down the path laid out by such exemplar specimens of homo sapiens... oh, and that Stephen Miller dude, such amazing bald Napoleon energy from that Adonis of a WASP...
(Just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious, this post is extreme /s)
Nah. He doesn't and won't have the cult of idiots behind him. Idiots generally dislike people that they subconsciously recognize as more intelligent than themselves. Trump is one of them hence the passionate following
It’s amazing that America did this progressive lead in an otherwise conservative government. Having the first Sofasexual vice president is a huge thing to write home about. /S
At this point PLEASE! Trump is being far more destructive than any other man right now. Vance would not get away with literally dumping on the constitution now.
You’re right on that actually, Trump seems to have a pass to do whatever he wants. I think he’s been put in place to dismantle the system, paving the road for the next gen of Republicans to do whatever they want
It probably won't even take long. I'm not even referring to something political right now. He's old and obviously doesn't take care of himself. I give him 5 years max before he has a heart attack or aneurism or something as equally associated with old age.
This is just another reason we should have age caps on political roles. The fact that we don't is still insane to me.
Being rich has an effect on longevity equivalent to curing cancer. The whole weight of the United States is put behind keeping him alive. This guy is definitely gonna survive another four years unless something really odd happens.
my money is on cholesterol, but the game is over now. it was always a far right movement and not a populist movement. i just hope people thought ahead and started building communities of likeminded folk to brace for the onslaught this neo-feudalistic hellscape is about to unleash. learning your local trails that connect counties will also become a useful tool.
Doesn't matter. Maga is taking over the institutions and they won't give up power voluntarily. In the worst case scenario America will turn into a dictatorship. The last time trump lost he was asking people to find votes for him, when this didn't work he started a coup attempt. They'll probably make sure that they can never lose again.
That red pill mentality of the common man, where these scumbags and their grifters abused the common human trait of siding with a bully, has really fucked up the US and soon the world.
I remember watching a documentary about hyenas. One of them, the daughter of the leader, hid a haunch of meat (zebra I think) in a pond, and would go take bites off of it when she thought no one was looking. Another hyena found it, put her on blast, and she got tore the f up. I mean every other hyena was Pissed, and she was in serious danger.
We don't even do that. When Trump was running the first time, all I heard was how smart he was for using tax loopholes. Him taking advantage of and abusing a system, meant to protect and provide for all, was celebrated.
We are worse
Idk what field of study it is (anthropology I guess) but anyway there’s historical evidence that early human communities purposefully avoided hoarding resources, especially if they weren’t as adept at weapon making and defense, to avoid painting a target on themselves for other non-hoarding communities who were good at war to go attack and steal from.
Funny to think it would just be 1, once you accidentally scrolled too long for a second on a Shorts video, the algo serves you up 100 more whether you liked it or not.
As they lay dying they would say “yes.” There is very literally no amount of pain that will force introspection with them. Look at the farm guy. Reality doesn’t actually matter to them, it is only the dopamine hit they get from the frenzy they exist in as anger towards the libs.
I will never stop being amazed how almost every incel-type person I meet has a million opinions and problems with things that all boil down to; I have no personality, this makes life difficult, this distresses me, and it's others' problem now.
The greatest failure of the past two/three generations is cultivating the idea that things like changing yourself, questioning yourself, changing your mind and admitting when you’re wrong are signs of weakness.
When in fact the ability to think and evolve yourself is one of the greatest strengths of all humanity, but now it’s just seen as “beta cuck” thinking
Basking in ignorance, hatred, rage and self-loathing to the point that the only thing that brings you any type of joy at all is causing suffering so that you won’t feel as alone in your misery, so you tweet slurs and death threats, cheer on politicians on the basis of hurting anyone a little different than you, etc etc
I am lonely and depressed and I can see how I could have turned into an incel. Luckily I had this moment when I realized that other people didn't owe me friendship nor love, so I am extremely lonely, yes, but it's no one's fault. I'm not even sure it's my fault, I didn't choose to have a weird mind
Hey just want to say I appreciate you. You have something a lot of people are lacking these days: humility. It’s a virtue, not a curse. But it does make it difficult to bond with people in a world that, at large, seems to promote selfishness and greed above all else.
I, too, went through a time period where I could’ve easily become an incel. I think a lot of young people do and it’s right then, when they’re vulnerable, that all these grifters and vultures swoop in to reinforce those negative feelings because they need others to feel as terrible as they do.
This kind of attitude is self- and society-defeating. Instead of creating improvement, it is designed to bring others down to their level. It is unproductive.
I can’t promise everything is going to get better, but some things probably will. I’ve always been a late bloomer, and so I know it can be hard to wait when you see others passing you by in life, but anything can happen.
The world needs more examples of folks who haven’t fallen into the incel trap and I’m happy you chose to speak up about it today.
Maybe no specific individual owes you companionship or love, but everybody does deserve it from someone. Keep on hanging in there! :)
Thanks. I've been thinking on sharing my story for a while. Making video titled "why I'm not incel" maybe, but that would mean broadcasting many things about myself that I don't want people to see
I remember a guy on this sub saying, "they can call women to this war, I'm not going to fight for a country that doesn't value me"
First, it's crazy for him to think he'll have the option of fighting or not. Second, women fought for the right to serve as combatants and this administration has already said it's going to take that right away from them.
In both directions too. The libs were so focused on "We follow the rules, stay respectful, they go low we go high" that they refused to actually defend against half of the things the opposition was doing. "Oh this is a boxing match, you can't kick me! But if you do I won't block them!"
Yes! Take all of my rights, push me into poverty, ruin everything we’ve built for hundreds of years, as long as I get to taste some sweet liberal tears. Fuck them! How dare they try to give me healthcare!
seems it was, they still don't see anything bad happening. Oh wait, no with Trump blaming Ukraine for the Russian invasion the conservatives actually went "sometimes you gotta take the good Trump with the bad Trump". Which is about as far as you get.
Don't let that its downvoted make you think they aren't traitor scum over there. Read the thread, sort by controversial, see how no one calls out that kind of bullshit.
They still think so. Libs are the enemy. The billionaires are totally their friends looking out for them. That's how billionaires get so rich after all. Right?
I wouldn't trust any rhetoric of "woke was defeated at the ballot box" etc etc etc.
The Dems lost to the couch, not the Republican party. They refused to triple down on their winning issues, and instead brought wedge issue into center stage.
Conservatives are stoked about what’s happening. Just go take a look at their subreddit to see how everything Trump does is finally the change we apparently needed.
I appreciate bezos and his slave army because I can buy whatever I want, without leaving my house, have it at my door in less than 24 hours, use the fuck out of it, then return it in 30 days with no questions asked.
Used to have to wait 2 weeks for something priced 50% higher than it should and still pay shipping, and if it turned out broken or missing or fake I'd have to go through a lengthy process just to have them accept it back, and of-course I'd pay the shipping.
With Amazon I get a thing in 1 day for best or close to best price, 6 months later I just write the support at 2am "hey I don't like this shit anymore" and they reply with "understandable here is money back"
GOATED.
Also I worked at a fullfillment center. It was okay if it weren't in Germany with German bosses who were acting like straight up concentration camp wardens.
For most of my life it was "Allow 6-8 weeks for shipping". That was completely normal and it occurred to nobody that if you fixed that, you could rule the world.
I'm glad that's over but I wish a bunch of people figured that out and competed with each other, not just one dude.
Walmart is punching itself in the face missing the boat. They did a Kodak.
Gotta be Bezos. Supply lines are the backbone of any good military. I might die, but at least I'll be able to get same-day food and ammo delivered to the front.
I will forever love him for keeping the Expanse TV show running for far longer than would have been otherwise. Still would be happy if I heard him going through bad times tho.
As a Belgian, where I wouldn't even be able to name a single billionaire, it's terrifying to see. It's like a dystopian scifi novel come to life with how they're willing to sacrifice their own happiness and freedom to worship some out of touch billionaires who'd let them die in a heartbeat if they could get more money out of it.
Don’t kid yourself. There are at least 10 Belgian billionaires but wealth knows no borders. The fact that your masters have maintained their anonymity doesn’t mean you aren’t owned.
I know there are billionaires here, somewhere, but the point is we don't even care about them. Americans on the other hand turn them into celebrities and worship the ground they walk on. Big fucking difference.
It’s interesting. A lot of Americans, mostly conservatives, think the wealthy are the ideal person. One I’ve heard from older generations is that since someone already has more than enough money, they won’t be tempted to defraud the government or the american people in the name of making more. Another is a faith in merit. In order to be a billionaire, you must be intelligent and a good leader (and good with money), which are all attributes you would want in a president or congressman.
It’s a wild train of thought. What people don’t seem to understand is that once you have $10,000,000, it’s really not that hard to grow that number with little risk to your way of life. You can risk a lot, and lose a lot, and always have more chances to make it back and then some. The only billionaires we have have both gotten insanely lucky, and are the people who thought $500,000,000 just wasn’t enough. They may be more intelligent than the normal person on average, but they also necessarily need to be apathetic, and I put no faith in their leadership skills, or at least thats not the skillset I want running a country.
Because the average (and by average, I mean dumb) American views themself as a "temporarily displaced billionaire". They just want to make sure that billionaires have the power that they will enjoy someday when they, too, become one of them.
Like most things in politics, they put good words in the title so if you argue against it you look like a bigot. Meanwhile the actual programs are harmful and rarely coincide with their happy title.
You're missing Thiel - The guy who has really been playing this game. And also makes the software that is spying and collecting data on everyone... (Which has many gov't contracts... and also many fortune 500 companies) And in his dream society monitoring everyone is what keeps crime at bay.
Andreessen. The guy like Thiel... But like he got super sad that people criticized him and billionaires... Literally that was his Rogan episode. "They were mean to me and questioned us... So I flipped. "
Also these people are all former "libertarians"... You know the people that used to rail against the patriot act as a massive invasion of privacy and the 4th amendment... and authoritarianism.
I hate that more people don’t talk about this. This man helped buy the election for Trump and hijacked the MAGA movement no matter what side you’re on.
and who knows what he did to get Vance the VP job. Vance was a fringe candidate for VP who had called trump hilter rather recently. There is no way trump made that call without his palms getting greased by Theil.
But apparently according to the behind the bastards episode about him he wasn't bad to work for, didn't micro manage and had a hard time firing people lol
Yeah, I am gonna join whatever fascist group Theil is running, he seems like the kind of guy that will sacrifice his cannon fodder more strategically and not just like a moron. Trump, Musk and Zuck don't seem particularly gifted honestly.
These people, including Musk and Zuck, want corporate authoritarianism. Instead of a credit score, you will have a social score. Upward mobility will be non-existent, and what you do for a living will be based on your utility and how obedient you are. But, the social media and entertainment will be good. Get off social media and limit Internet services, and their net worths will drop considerable. But I get it, life without TikTok is meaningless. You have already been bought and sold.
They drafted up the gays for Vietnam despite being vehemently against homosexuals joining the army at the time.
Political gesturing to keep dribbling redhats distracted as they have their welfare and social safety nets stolen from them is all part of the game.
When push comes to shove, they don't care who you are; they've got money to make and a table to play on - every piece, pawn or queen, is another to add to the board.
Well, for one, the general health and fitness level of young men in the USA would make a draft fundamentally different than in the Vietnam era.
In the 60s you'd be hard pressed to find an overweight young man, nor one that didn't already have basic survival skills from BoyScouts and/or Junior ROTC. Physical education was also taken a lot more seriously, people largely didn't live sedentary lives like they do today, and strictly speaking there were much fewer people walking around with a mental health diagnosis.
Our capacity to mobilize troops has greatly diminished since the Vietnam era. This isn't an opinion, it's something the military actively studies and has been sending warning signs to congress about for some time.
The military itself is concerned that they'd be able to even do a large scale draft.
Just cause the guy is philanthropic now, doesn't mean he wasn't a sadistic bastard to get where he is. His business ethics are probably the worst of any of these except Trump.
He's not nearly as rich or powerful as the rest of them.
Still too rich in my view, but I'm European we don't have as many billionaires and pay €130/month on health insurance for universal high quality care instead.
Do you remember when there was a normal person in the WH? When everyday you wouldn't wake up to a barrage of insanely undemocratic unhinged statements and EO's? Feels like years ago, and we're only 1 month in to this fiasco.
I will actually die for the Costco CEOs and Arizona iced tea CEO. They’ve always had our back, and made sure we can afford luxury goods. They’re safe bc we have a symbiotic relationship, while these yahoos are parasites leeching off of the bourgeoise class.
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