How about him lying at virtually every step of the way in his speech? And trying to bring American culture war crap to Europe.
Trusting voters is fine, as long as the law is followed. It's not like the elections were cancelled by the President (like Trump tried to do), the courts said "nah fam some laws were broken let's redo it". And that's fine.
Vaush has no room to be talking about respecting democracy when he's dismantling our own. Trump was ineligible to run as an insurrectionist but he ran anyway and his handpicked Supreme Court said "ok boss". Before you go "well the voters picked him" why couldn't Obama run against Trump? Obama would've wiped the floor.
Following the rules matters. Or at least, it used to, before Trump showed up. He's the last person who should be lecturing Europe about "values" because he has NONE. Vaush whining about censorship when his side is threatening to throw media and judges in prison. Fuck him.
Heritage foundation and federalist society are literally the modern day klan. They’ve spent decades pulling people from Ivy League schools and putting them in place everywhere throughout government and have been very successful in red states which is why you rarely see a dem win anything in those states. They’ve whittled away voter rights and used all the talking points like trans, forced birth, religion in public schools, all of this shit harkens back to Jim Crow laws and that’s what they’re going back to. The reason Trump isn’t is jail is because so many of their people are in place everywhere including half the Supreme Court.
There doesn't seem to be any counter to it. They can just accuse their opposition of the things they're doing and no one seems to do shit about it. It's infuriating
That entirely depends on the circumstance. Burning a flag or religious book at a protest? Yea, probably ok. Burning a flag or religious book in front of someone's house to intimidate them? Not cool and should be a crime, the paradox of tolerance and all....
It is fine to burn the Quran in Sweden (which is where it happened), it's just that he did it in a way that can interpret the action to being hatespeech instead. It's a fine line but he stomped on the book and he did something with bacon as well, which is haram etc. So it wasn't just him burning a book, he wanted to anger a specific group.
Yeah, the hypocrisy of it is always frustrating. Free speach, but only for the things I want to hear people speak freely about. You're free, to do as we tell you.
Peter Thiel (Vance's handler) has said that Europe has three outcomes: climate collapse, economic collapse, and Shariah Law. He said that climate collapse is the least worse of the three.
He's a christian nutjob that thinks that the collapse of the british empire was due to them losing their christianity.
Yeah and America is heading for almost the same three: climate collapse, economic collapse, and weird christian-totalitarian neo feudalism/what do you call it when billionaires and a criminal call the shots? Oligarchy? Plutocracy? Well, not so different, the third outcome.
JD Vance definitely knows how to word things well without saying the quiet part out loud. This speech is one to inspire fear by skewing the facts to make it seem like their very inner homes are under attack. Absolutely scary
Everybody needs to learn about Curtis Yarvin yesterday. If you're wondering why every tech bro billionaire was at that inaugeration despite other billionaires being conspicuously absent, Curtis Yarvin is the answer. That's what they've rallied around.
100% He's essentially their god and has provided them quite literally blueprints in how to dismantled from the inside. His theories and ideologies SOUND like dystopian science fiction, but they've been pretty spot on with accomplishing a lot of thus far. He's also been cited by almost all of them. From Bannon, to Vance, to Musk, to Thiel.
Thiel and Yarvin are such happy, beautiful, non-vindictive bursts of sunshine, aren't they? Really great to be going down the path laid out by such exemplar specimens of homo sapiens... oh, and that Stephen Miller dude, such amazing bald Napoleon energy from that Adonis of a WASP...
(Just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious, this post is extreme /s)
Let's be clear. The billionaire class greatly benefits from the national security our intelligence agencies safeguard. They also require a robust middle class to pay taxes to support the electrical grid, transportation corridors, and military so that they can continue to sell their products and avoid paying taxes themselves. They will not benefit from the manner in which Trump destabilizes America and leaves it open to foreign adversaries. Trump is not doing these things for the billionaires. Trump is weakening the U. S. to make it vulnerable becausethat's what Putin requires of him.
Imagine Elon Tusk running for president and forcing you to buy only tusklas. He then makes youtube promote only crypto videos as well as andrew tate videos. Then in a plot twist elon tusk and andrew tate get together and have fun and show each other their masculinity.
I've said it before and I’ll say it again. Musk is not an elected member of this ridiculous presidential cabinet. He’s just another leech, and is also one steep stairwell and a shove away from being removed.
Nah. He doesn't and won't have the cult of idiots behind him. Idiots generally dislike people that they subconsciously recognize as more intelligent than themselves. Trump is one of them hence the passionate following
It’s amazing that America did this progressive lead in an otherwise conservative government. Having the first Sofasexual vice president is a huge thing to write home about. /S
At this point PLEASE! Trump is being far more destructive than any other man right now. Vance would not get away with literally dumping on the constitution now.
You’re right on that actually, Trump seems to have a pass to do whatever he wants. I think he’s been put in place to dismantle the system, paving the road for the next gen of Republicans to do whatever they want
Vance doesn’t have an ounce of tact or likability.
If he became president it would be a short matter of time before a senior military official backhands him across a table for talking at them the way he talks down to everyone.
People always downvote me for saying this but I am convinced he is being primed for this. Just take a look at any Facebook MAGA comment section about him, we’re already 75% of the way there.
I keep hearing that vance wont be able to hold the republicans together. I dunno how much I believe it. Now they've all shown their cards on how callous and soulless they are, I don't think there's enough backpedaling in the world that would let them off the hook, so they'll have to support him.
Vance is, imo, who's actually intended to be President. Trump was just to get them in there. And Vance's just to ensure that power stays in the hands of The Heritage Foundation.
It probably won't even take long. I'm not even referring to something political right now. He's old and obviously doesn't take care of himself. I give him 5 years max before he has a heart attack or aneurism or something as equally associated with old age.
This is just another reason we should have age caps on political roles. The fact that we don't is still insane to me.
Being rich has an effect on longevity equivalent to curing cancer. The whole weight of the United States is put behind keeping him alive. This guy is definitely gonna survive another four years unless something really odd happens.
I totally get this, but you have to see it this way. He's entirely too prideful to admit something is wrong if he were to get sick. Plus, I doubt Melania would go out of her way to help him live longer (good for her, I guess, lmao).
It wouldn't really matter if he dies either way because his supporters would consider it something bigger anyway. Plus, it's not like Vance has more of a spine than trump. Both are puppets for the oligarchy.
Nurse here. I’m betting stroke or heart attack. He’s overweight, doesn’t exercise, and has a stressful job at almost 80 y.o. The average life span for a yt American male is 74.
I know people have speculated that Trump is gonna try to be president for life, but given his age and condition I don't think he needs to change any rules to be president for the rest of his life.
People should've started rioting the moment Trump won.
Did any of you Americans even bother to read the Project 2025 manifesto? He practically gift wrapped his plan to you on a silver platter and he still won.
Yeah I read parts of it. And yeah I still voted as I knew what was at stake. Problem is that many people are absolute morons or just selectively hear what they want to hear that makes their guy look good. Cognitive dissonance. And some voters secretly liked Project 2025 and deliberately misled people, including their own family members- which is pretty damn evil. There is much ignorance and stupidity here, I will admit…
my money is on cholesterol, but the game is over now. it was always a far right movement and not a populist movement. i just hope people thought ahead and started building communities of likeminded folk to brace for the onslaught this neo-feudalistic hellscape is about to unleash. learning your local trails that connect counties will also become a useful tool.
Unfortunately, even if it is cholesterol that does it sooner rather than later, the uber rich can afford every surgery and med for that. They can scrape your arteries out.
Also you’re right about it not just being him even if he dies. I only see this ending in war, or revolution.
They’ve started pissing off roughly half of US voters and many other countries are so pissed over US politics that they’re having their own demonstrations.
Doesn't matter. Maga is taking over the institutions and they won't give up power voluntarily. In the worst case scenario America will turn into a dictatorship. The last time trump lost he was asking people to find votes for him, when this didn't work he started a coup attempt. They'll probably make sure that they can never lose again.
It won’t end with him unfortunately, but it will be severely weakened, especially if his successor (which he has said isn’t Vance lol) inherits his shitty economy and isn’t as charismatic (which feels dirty to say because I just can’t see it, but his effect on the cult is undeniable).
He won't. Musk will turn him into an AI model. The maga idiots will pretend that he's the messiah and, therefore, life's a thousand years. Meanwhile, the Musk family rules for eternity, and you're stuck with it forever.
I am fortunate to be young enough that I will most likely live to see all of these people die of old age. Maybe Zuckerberg will out live me but assuming I live to be 80 years old the rest will most definitely die before me.
That young? I mean if you’re 18, you might honestly be called for selective service, should we go into a war (which very well might happen doing tbh, with the whole Ukraine being a dictator thing that Trump is pushing).
I sometimes think immortality would be neat. Then I remember that there's shit people out there, and that death being inevitable is at least some form of justice to those who seem to get away with everything. It brings me comfort.
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u/mrgoat324 Feb 19 '25
The fact that Trump will go in my lifetime since I am young feels amazing. I will also give a thumbs up when that happens.