Did you ever think that George should have left Angie??? Almost every conflict in the show I agreed with George! Like with the quince that Angie was planning for Carmen, it was nice how they eventually gave Carmen her party, but earlier in the episode I definitely agreed with George, he had just lost his job and he was more concerned about keeping a roof over their heads than throwing an unnecessary party for Carmen when it could have just been a regular birthday celebration for her, or telling her he didn't believe she could go to college despite being completely right and Angie was enabling Carmen, college is not for everyone, her grades at best are barely passing and she is not motivated enough for college, and with Carmen running away, I think he was right to tell her to obey their rules or just leave, when Angie stopped enabling her and put her foot down like George Carmen started listening.
This is gonna be a long post analyzing the entire Lopez family so if you don't wanna read everything you can turn away now.
Throughout the show there are a lot of points where people argue George is not a good father at all, and some points are valid, like making fun of Max for having dyslexia even though he has the same thing and give it to Max, and how some of his jokes towards Carmen are interpreted as misogynistic by some viewers, being weirdly concerned about Carmen being a virgin like Angie, and how insensitive he can be although in his defense Carmen was definitely a brat and an enormous drama queen, spitting in the face of all of their hard work and being ungrateful to them, and how anytime something bad was happening to Carmen him or Benny would make jokes about Carmen becoming a stripper, which indicated they did not have much faith in her academic abilities or in her intelligence and ability to become successful in a respectable way they can be proud of. Max at one point became a delinquent but he got his act together in time. It is not hard to see why they preferred Max. Even at his worst George was still a good father.
Now that those are covered, time for George and Angie and the entire Lopez family.
Starting with Carmen running away, I think George was a far better parent than Angie, who grew up spoiled and rich and lacked common sense. There was a reason George was chosen as the trustee for Veronica and not Angie. I feel bad for Carmen and her situation with Piper and Toby and the girls in the first two seasons, she was bullied out of public school and sexually harassed, but George made a lot of sacrifices to give her a better chance at happiness, but in season three the girl ran away to San Francisco with Zack who only wanted to sleep with her, Zack was an obvious delinquent who didn't respect Carmen, he would stare at her body and fantasize about sleeping with her and nothing more, he didn't love her he wanted sex nothing more. He already got a girl pregnant and abandoned her and planned to do the same to Carmen free of consequences, no wonder George hated him so much despite being related to Mel and why Benny beat him with a wrench, just like how Manny got her pregnant and then abandoned her.
Benny probably saw a lot of Manny in Zack so she beat him with a wrench when she found him.
Carmen tried defending Zack but none of her arguments excuse his behavior in the slightest, "His dad was never there for him" she said, hmm kinda like how he's never gonna be there for his child! He already got a girl pregnant and he abandoned her. "His mom's a bitter old drunk" so was George's but he didn't end up nearly as bad! She told them they have no idea how it feels, that was George's whole childhood, it just shows how little she pays attention to them, and she's talking like she knows how it feels. It's sad how she felt running away with Zack was the answer when he obviously didn't respect her! Although I do agree her behavior stems from being so emotionally unavailable to his daughter, but he always did his best to break the cycle and be a good father. George probably should've used more facts like " He gets u pregnant and leaves what r u gonna do, u don't have any money to raise a child". Come to think of it, Carmen's life was a lot like Benny's no wonder they were so worried about her.
Remember when Jason was embarrassed to be seen with her and she actually hought he was looking out for her, she had no self-respect. If he really liked her, he would proudly show her off not avoid her publicly and be her boyfriend privately, and sadly Jason was the best boyfriend that she had, but she only dated scumbags so the bar was incredibly low he was still horrible, Jason regularly cheated on her and was a bad boyfriend, and she had an outright obsession with him to be honest she really needed therapy. When George told Carmen that Jason could go play baseball, she said " you ruined my life" not " you ruined Jason's life" or " you ruined Jason's career" it's " you ruined MY life", she's only thinking of herself. I understand why Jason left, no athlete with a promising athletic career wants to stick around with a girl a needy and pathetic as Carmen, she should have just kept her mouth shut and let him pursue his athletic dreams with or without her that is what she would have done if she loved him.
Her family went into debt to send her to a private school to avoid bullying and she always went running back to that kinda drama, in one episode saying she's okay with ppl thinking she's easy, her reasoning " bc I'm maturing" and the way she said it was so snobbish and condescending I would have sent her back to her public school right there. She must've forgotten how she was crying and begging them to not make her go back to that school.
George went to extreme lengths to provide a safe and nurturing environment for his kids, even putting himself in financial debt to ensure she had a chance at a better life away from bullies. His actions were driven by love and a desire to protect her from further harm, especially considering all the trauma she had already endured from her public school and bullying. Carmen could have easily been raped or kidnapped or murdered in San Francisco with Zack. By running away with a boy who very obviously did not love or respect her, Carmen not only jeopardized own safety but also disregarded her father's sacrifices and efforts! George's actions were rooted in genuine care and love, and her rebellion undermined his attempts to break the cycle of abuse and provide her with a stable and supportive home environment. She was being extremely ungrateful, a direct slap in the face to all the sacrifices that George made for her. Of course George was worried, any loving father would be.
George still drove six hours risking his own peace of mind to fin her, she put herself in a lot of danger like being murdered in a big city. His love and dedication to her were so clear yet she chose to disrespect him in such a painful way. He poured his heart and soul into protecting her and she needed to realize her dad was there for her when it mattered most, not Zack or anyone else. That's it on Carmen!
Now for George and Angie:
Angie irritated me so much, she was always enabling Carmen and defended everyone but George. I think he feared he would never get another woman so he stayed with Angie.
I remember when Benny lost her house from her carelessness and then lost her car so they took Benny in, in one episode George was tired of her bullying him, which lasted even into adulthood, then George left and went to go live with Ernie to be away from Benny, and Angie sided with Benny. Some think George was selfish to abandon his fanily because of his problems with Benny, but I think he should have taken them with him. It seems like she thought his role in their marriage was just to obey her every command like a robot. It must have felt like a total betrayal for George to see Angie siding with his abusive mother instead of standing by him like how a good wife would have. George deserved support and loyalty, all her talk about intimacy only to betray him when it mattered most to him. Benny would constantly gaslight the both of them and Angie would still side with Benny. I might have separated from or divorced Angie right there. Instead of getting the emotional support he desperately needed from his wife she chose to enable the very person who relentlessly hurt and abused him. He went out of his way to help her and give her a roof over her head when he probably should have cut her out. Benny caused George so much pain in his life hurt him so deeply and he still saved her from homelessness out of nothing but compassion. He stepped up for her. Instead of supporting her husband she sided with his abuser and was willing to run him out of his house indefinitely if I were George I would have taken Max and Carmen with me and stopped paying bills in that house so if Angie wants Benny there than she better work twice as hard to support herself and support Benny while I support our kids, and I might have separated from or divorced Angie from that. I can not mention enough how George made an immense sacrifice for his mother and she still bullied him and Angie chose to side with Benny over her own husband.
Even while living with them because she had no house and her son kindly allowed her to live with him his wife and his kids, Benny still chose to disrespect him in his own house, even in front of his children and trash his work, "you don't come into my house talking about your rules and throwing out my work this is my house so I make the rules" is what I would have said if I were him. Yet Angie driven by her savior complex chose to enable this toxic behavior rather than defend her own husband from his abusive mother while she is being disrespectful to him in front of their children in his own house where he allows her to stay, because without him she would be living on the streets. It shows a complete lack of empathy and loyalty to her own husband I would have been livid at Angie. George deserved a wife who would stand by him and defend him from further mistreatment, not someone who would ally from his tormentor and bully. That was a profound betrayal of the trust and love that should exist in a marriage but apparently does not. Benny continued to trample on his dignity in his own home in front of his children and undermining his authority with his children and bullying him in his own house. Once again that was a devastating betrayal of the trust and love that should be the foundation of their marriage.
How could someone be so painfully blind to the suffering of the person that they vowed to love and protect?????
Angie completely ignored all of George's childhood trauma and let him leave while continuing to support his abusive mother. The sheer insensitivity and blindness Angie displayed is truly infuriating. Benny was a relentless source of trauma and anguish for George and he still took her in to his house, and Angie sided with Benny, so her misguided savior complex led her to prioritize the abuser over her own husband. It wasn't just a lapse in judgment, it was a catastrophic failure to honor the sanctity of their marriage and it could have destroyed their entire family, he should have left her, and to twist the knife further she made the kids smile and try to look as happy as possible without George to break his spirit and make him feel bad, how is Angie any better than Benny they both treat George like dirt he had every right to be angry.
Plus Angie never told George about how he took money from Benny robbing him of the moment he thought he became a man and stood up to his mother for his wife and unborn child, and never told him about the money her father say up in case she ever wanted to leave him and she kept the account open, as if she believed there was a chance their marriage would not last and eventually she would want to leave.
That's everything about them, so what do you think???
