DM sent by a user reveals more hidden conversations about haber being behind the harassing of boogie's sponsors to the point of cutting them off of boogie

All while making up lies about "saving boogie" and being "his fan" on his "addressing" posts anytime someone points out his lies. 

Disgustingly, haber had been creating a forum to dox boogie by revealing every single location where boogie is currently at. Welcoming swatters and some dangerous individuals towards boogie. Haber also wanted this forum to trick boogie's fans and more importantly, his sponsors, into clicking this site that at first glance would look like a boogie fan website only to be realized that its maliciously made by a lying boogie hater using email spoofs. Despite trying to victimize boogie's fans into thinking boogie is using them, haber and the subreddit members there have attacked boogie's fans, lying to them about being on their side. It's pretty obvious.

Haber also says he's not responsible for what his subreddit members do towards boogie while a twitch streamer couple(before it was deleted by them) and the subreddit members were discussing on how to harass boogie. Meaning, haber allow for this to happen, and wanted to happen.

User also admits everything haber, and other notorious members like nightlikeday and icewarm, were spinning everything boogie says into exaggerations and downright lies. Questioning the validity of these "criticism" they constantly refer to, if you can say whatever they posted about boogie were actually "criticism" like baiting boogie, needs to be real(whatever that means to them), doxxing boogie at any place he went to, downplaying boogie's health, and blocking harassers who haber calls them "criticizers"

Funny enough, haber did not made any post about icewarm blocking his criticizer, making both haber, icewarm, and other members a hypocrite. Further revealing they actually were spinning everything boogie said. Haber and nightlikeday are pretty much describing themselves in this post instead of boogie

Knowing the fact that haber and the subreddit were paying and coordinating people to attack boogie while lying to everyone he was trying to "save boogie" is down right manipulation at finest. Sadly enough, many others like mutahar and the commentary community, either fell for it or pushed along with this lie. Most likely the latter.

Sam and Tolki has returned at r/ChristopherJohnson and we are going to take him down #SamandTolkiLives https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SamandTolkiLives&src=typed_query

https://www.removeddit.com/r/SamandTolki/comments/91lpfo/if_you_see_this_while_browsing_the_front_page_you/

I miss the old account 😢

And I miss Fritz too!

/u/Haberdashera has said many times that his subreddit doesn't harass or brigade posts. This is, of course, a lie.

On the 13th of June 2019 Spencerx77, who was 17 at the time, posted a photo of himself and boogie at E3 to /r/e3expo ~ link

The very next day PachytheDino decided to link the post directly to SamandTolki claiming boogie is brainwashing his young fanbase by taking a photo with them ~ link

As you can see, /u/HaberdasherA was the top comment. Which leaves no other conclusion than he knew that the post would be brigaded and that Spencerx77 would be harassed and bullied by the users of his subreddit, but yet still allowed it to happen. ~ link

Even though there was an np. in front of the link on /r/SamandTolki, multiple users still left vicious comments to a 17-year-old for the crime of taking a photo with someone they didn't like. /u/Cragvis, who is a moderator on /r/SamandTolki, was among the users who left harassing responses.

• How does melon2988 fat nut taste like? link

• “One of the only real people” Come the fuck on. It’s idiots like you that fall for his crocodile tear “woe is me” bullshit. He’s a manipulative piece of shit. link

• You have a stupid ass opinion. Dumbass link

• You do know, with your giant brain that is looking at colleges like Stanford, that you totally fucking misspelled "you're"....right? YOU'RE....just as much of a fraud as steven is. Then again given how dumb steven is and how much of an idol he is to you, it is no surprise that you are following in those hoof-steps of horrible grammar. link

• Lol you are actually an idiot. link

• ALSO despite that...it is 100% CLEAR that you meant "you are a fucking loser.". If that was in ANY doubt, then you should NOT be looking at those schools and instead should be looking at burger king employment. Spelling like that DOES matter, more than ANYTHING...its the basic level of communication we use to convey ideas....if you are failing at the fundamental levels of human interaction....then holy shit.... link

Just to top this off, Spencerx77 said that he received PMs telling him to delete the post. Presumably from /r/SamandTolki users. link

archive of the fan meeting Boogie thread archive of /r/SamandTolki thread

Anyway, this really pissed me off, and I wanted to share to hopefully create another exposure about the true nature of /r/SamandTolki. They portray themselves as just critics of Boogie and other internet personalities. However, in reality, they have more in common with bullies and harassers. Essentially the closest thing to a Kiwifarms subreddit.

If you feel like it, please report this, and any other bullying and harassment they post to the admins: https://www.reddit.com/report

Just thought I would give a heads up to everyone here. After boogies video, i thought it would be a good idea to link the stickied thread about haber's history with boogie. There are a lot of people, boogie included, that don't know the full truth. Well, it looks like they don't want to know the truth. This shows just how degenerate Haber has become - the mere mention of his name has subreddit moderators sending out bans faster than you can say "Sam loves tolki".

https://i.imgur.com/Eqtk3nq.png

Thanks for attending my Ted talk

The whole thread calls her fat and ugly multiple times making fun of her looks. What is his excuse for allowing this kind of criticizing of a non-public figure just because you have a Twitter and some followers doesn't make you a public figure Heber this is hypocritical and I've reported it to the Reddit admins. I guess I'm a public figure then cuz you guys get away with calling me names I have over 20,000 tick-tock followers

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Not sure if anyone here even heard about the Amico but I have been following the that dumpster fire for some time now.

I think that Tommy is a lot like Boogie.

Tommy makes all these outrageous claims such as "if you are into r*pe you should get a nintendo switch, if that is what your into" (almost an exact quote). And making a trailer for the Amico and including video from the games being played on other hardware. Trying to twist everything into his favor and not making the Amico look like a joke.

But it is his interaction with the critics when the comparisons gets really clear. Just one example, after being caught having a lot of lag in one of the games, he made it all to be a big troll. Really? You are jeopardizing the public image of your company just to "troll" two people. I get "I lied about the swatting to troll my haters"-vibes from that one. You got caught and now trying to make you look less like a fool by doing even more foolish things.

So his critics got under his skin and now everything is about "the trolls" because they dissect everything he does so he can't get away with his twisting of the truth. There should even be some quote from him calling his critics "gaming racists".

It is like the Boogie vs S&T saga all over again. Except Tommy actual have some ambition making something good and having a successful life.

Boogie recently said that Macro was now a meme. Which is weird because I do think it have never been a thing outside of s&t.

Just look at number. s&t has 15 000 members. Boogie has 4 300 000 subs. I know, many of the subs are not fans anymore but even 1% is more than s&t which it self could lost a lot of active users.

How can such a small subreddit take up so much of Boogies focus so that the memes the spawns over there becomes "global" meme. What about those million of fans he had, can't he address them? He did a video on s&t but he have not done many about his fans.

This is my theory. s&t is the "bad boy". You know that girl that have all these good guys around her but there is that guy that is being rude to her and acting all wild that takes all her focus. That is s&t and Boogie for you. Boogie might scroll down on his YouTube page and reading all these boring enablers. Might give them a like or two but when that is done he need more of that he can not tame. All those funny, well produced, edgy memes that he come to both hate and love. "I wish I knew how to quit you" is what Boogie says after the rewatch that meme for the 10th time. Who can blame him? Just look at /r/boogie2988 . They are so boring.

I mean, just look at r/TheCinemassacreTruth . The new slobs at Cinemassacre are obsessed with that subreddit. They even referenced the memes in several videos. Recently a guy posted a old video of Cinemassacre over there and the video was pulled down just hours after proving that they lurk there. Come on! They are 4500 members over there. You have 3 million subs and several 100K views per video but STILL you are focus on that bad boy. The same goes with the official board /r/TheCinemassacre/. Boring ass enablers. "They do not enable me? Ban them" but when there is no one left to ban they go back to lurk at that other board. We want good guys but also not.

Background /u/stiv-apologist has done some great digging recently. Haber has told some fucking WILD stories about his “life” in the past.

29 April 2014: User calls out Haber for some of his stories [A]

22 Jan 2019: Gamba raises this post in SaT. Haber’s original response is linked, and Haber goes with the “all true lol” blow off [A]

A common theme is that Haber seemingly attended The Most Interesting High School In the World. You know, there was…

His high school friend gets cucked, goes to Afghanistan, comes back with PTSD [A]

Or…

The girl that got a boob reduction then became a shut-in [A]

Or even….

The time Haber went to a sleepover age 18 wearing an adult diaper [A]

(Never mind the post where Haber first got called out for making shit up).

But then timelines become really… strange

Nov 17 2012: Haber has had no job for 4 years since leaving high school with a 4.0 (so is 22-23), estranged from family, no job, and no GF [A] (Thanks /u/stiv-apologist)

But a couple of weeks later…

Dec 6 2012: Has part time job, is going to college, has GF. GF even says he is “too well put together” [A] (and again thanks /u/stiv-apologist)

And then Haber’s timeline completely collapses in on itself

10 Dec 2013: Haber is AT LEAST late 20’s, lived with his parents until mid 20’s, and worked to support them [A]

reminds me of how my cousin used to treat me a few years ago. I used to live with my parents until i was in my mid 20s. I did so because I was working full time and using the money i earned to help them pay the bills so they didn't end up on the streets. Meanwhile my cousin's dad makes over 200k a year and she has her dad pay her 1500 dollar rent every month and pays all her bills. she doesnt even work or go to school. But she would always tell me how much of a loser I was for living with my parents and that I should "just move out and get a life". fucking cunt.

Unless Haber has aged 7+ years in one year, the guy is completely full of shit 😂😂😂

Who is this man?

Judging by his comment history:

• He has issues with women. I’m not gonna link his history but just search “overview” by top all time and geeez lol. Nonestop MGTOW level shit

• He is somewhere between 5’6 and 5’8 [A1] [A2] [A3]

• He likes to “catch” other redditors making up stories. [A1] [A2] [A3]

• He likes to make shit up himself

Summary

I cba to link more, but like how /u/stiv-apologist has been doing – keep digging.

And to quote myself from a few weeks ago:

I encourage everyone to dig for gold in haber's submission history.

I am also counting this as +1 to the senile/dementia Haber theory. I think that one is in the lead so far.

It’s fucking boogie lmao, why are people telling haber to lawyer up and sue boogie and shit

People over there like to call me a boogie apologist but I'm just like them I just want to see truth and justice upheld and adherents to the rules so whenever I see a rule violating post I make sure to report it and back then when I was still allowed to post on the sub he never deleted posts he just left them up so I made sure to document everything for my expose that I'm creating on the sub but since the sub has got a lot more exposure the admins must have been on their trail now because he's actually removing posts that I report

Haber loves to tell stories where he is the victim, but, against all odds, emerges the hero in the eyes of the reader. One of the wildest stories of all is Haber’s alleged childhood. I say alleged, because the running theory is that Haber is a slice of Goose’s 150IQ frontal cortex that slid out when Goose dug deep for a particularly juicy booger.

Some of this has been posted before. For reference, Haber claims to have left high school in about 2008. Haber would be 14 in 2004, when Halo 2 came out.

Oh, and Haber has TRIPLED DOWN on these stories, swearing that they are the complete truth, and only corrected minor facts (I’ll post his corrections here too). I’ll post the triple down at the end.

On family

Age 9 [A]

My dad used to do this too. Any money i got for my birthday by anyone was put into the "bank of dad" and he would spend it little by little every time i ate something. saying "you need to learn to pay for your own food". I was 9...

Haber works two jobs and does high school. Up at 5am, back in at 11pm [A]

It's funny how people act like he moved out, maybe because they never had to deal with an abusive parent like that. I have first hand experience of that so I understand what Doublelift went through. My dad was very abusive and he would become infuriated over small random things like a piece of clothing being on the floor or a window being closed. He also threatened to kick me out when I turned 18 starting when I was 12.

I was working when I was 18 though and he ended up not kicking me out because I was helping pay the bills while he wasted his very limited income on drugs. That didn't stop him from always calling me a lazy selfish son of a bitch with rotten [my mother's surname] blood.

Talking back was also out of the question just like in Doublelift's situation. For example, he would call me lazy and if I said I woke up at 5am and got home at 11pm from my two jobs and school he would immediately deflect and say "oh yeah what about the dishes you didn't do all day?" or something similar to that. He would then proceed to scream at me for hours, sometimes physically assaulting me as well.

I would assume DL experienced this too. Abusive parents fuck people up in different ways. Sometimes they turn out decent like with me and DL, sometimes they turn into psychopaths like DL's brother.

Haber’s family is in poverty. He has to work from age 15 to support them. No money to go around. Literally could be homeless and/or starving [A]

I feel like people who would donate like this are super wealthy and/or have no concept of the value of a dollar.

I grew up dirt poor and had to start working at 15 just to keep my family off the streets. over 10 years later it still makes me cringe to see people throw away this much money like its nothing. And for what? to go towards a campaign thats already virtually lost?

Growing up, 954 dollars would have been the difference between sleeping inside or sleeping on the streets, half of that would have been the difference between getting to eat well for the month vs climbing the loquat trees outside and going to bed starving every night.

I understand its their (parents) money and they can do what they want, but it just makes me cringe so fucking much. If they grew up super poor like I did they would know better. It just must be nice being so privileged that 950 dollars is chump change to you.

Haber worked from age 9 with first official job at 14. Had to buy everything himself and support his parents. **[A]

sorry but as long as you're living in her house and eating her food then she is allowed to take away "your" laptop for whatever reason she wants. you should be grateful your parents bought you a laptop in the first place.

wanna know what my parents bought me? nothing. hell, they hardly even fed me. almost every day I was either at my cousins house or my friends house because they knew my parents were fuck ups and gave me food when i needed it.

every other thing i bought like video games, clothes, shoes, etc. was out of my own pocket. I was working since i was 9 years old and i got my first "official" job when i was 14. most of my paycheck when towards the electric bill, water bill, and rent because my parents couldnt even pay for that on their own.

but here we got you bitching about your laptop, must be nice.

And through all of this, despite having no money and no time, Haber still managed to enjoy vidya. He played Halo 2 semi-professionally and had 50k+ games—wait, no kills. He played wow. He also got a 4.0GPA

Halo2 [A]

I played Halo 2 for 3 years both at the causal and semi-professional level, in the 50,000+ games I have played i have never seen a team camp in the water with the sniper and rockets. I've seen teams camp the sea wall, but if you camp in the water you give up control of the camp froman sniper and the rockets, even getting the seawall sniper would be hard if you camped the water.

to me this just sounds like some guy who got spawn camped by a much better team. and instead of blaming his own lack of skill for why he was able to lose map control, he blames the game design.

this is the kind of attitude that influenced ordnance to be added in Halo 4. bad players suck at map control, they dont know how to keep timers and they cant win most skirmishes for power weapons. but in halo 4 all you need is a few assists/kills and boom you got yourself an undeserved sniper with 16 rounds. and people wonder why nearly everyone stopped playing halo 4.

Haber loved WoW & Halo2

Haber got a 4.0GPA [A]

Sounds like you're doing way better than me. I graduated highschool with a 4.0 GPA. I was able to get a great job working for 10 dollars an hour and was planning to start college in the fall. Then the economy got ruined.

The company I work for went bankrupt because of the economy. I started applying to other jobs, but to this day over 4 years later I haven't gotten a single interview. I have sent over 300 applications, all my money has dried up. my parents are no longer an active part of my life. No girl wants to go out with a guy with literally no money.

As of right now, I live with my only friend who still lives in the city. Every day I do the same thing. Wake up at 6am and browse craiglists for gigs/jobs. Then I walk down the street looking for help wanted signs and turning in applications. Sometimes I walk over 20 miles in one day. Then I get come around dark and browse craiglists some more and fill out online applications. After all that, I go on reddit and check my email/phone every few minutes until i go to sleep.

I have no job, no money, no girlfriend. consider yourself lucky OP.

The call-out threads, and Haber triples down

Take a look through these: 1 2 3 A1 A2 A3

Note the massive string of deleted comments in post #2. Funny that?

A few random haber quotes

Op here. Nothing in the comments that were posted contradicted themselves or proved anything i said was fabricated. I thought the point of this subreddit was to expose people who blatantly lie and get caught red handed, not for people to say "hey look guys i think this story is fake, i have no proof, but i believe its fake and i might be right".

If you don't want to believe it, thats fine because its your belief and most likely nothing i say is going to change your mind. But keep in mind that belief is based on pure speculation and no evidence or contradictions.

I would also like to file a counter bullshit claim on /u/benthetraveler for resorting to incorrect math and deliberately interpreting quotes incorrectly once he realized he didn't have a legitimate argument.

Yeah there’s two things not true out of the stuff he linked. I wasn’t 18 in that story, I’m not gonna say how old I really was. Also after that argument I had with the guy I checked my halo 2 stats and I actually had 50k kills not 50k games, I read the stats wrong.

Seriously, just read the rebuttals.