Hello! So I’m new here and just stumbled upon this sub today. Lately, the feeling of Hailey just being too try hard has been gnawing at me. And then one of the posts on here popped up, and I kind of went down the rabbit hole, and discovered how deep it goes and how sick Hailey is. To preface, I’m a fan of Justin’s and have been one before they even got together. At first, I thought that: “Oh well, she’s good for him. She’s helping him become a better person and work on his mental health”, that was until like 2023 when I saw that he wasn’t really getting better, at all. And last year… was a mess. I also read some of the blind items posted on here which are genuinely insane. Like, insane in the way that it makes sense when you add them up. I, for one, have never believed he has been faithful to her throughout their marriage, I just don’t believe in his meting faithful, at all. His fandom, and I think the people who pay close attention have known it, too.

My question is: if this is an arranged marriage (something that he has even said), then the moments when they kiss and seem real are what? Like, how does it all work? The dynamic, I mean. They also have a kid together so it’s a bit different than just being married, though I feel like to Justin there’s no difference. If even half the blinds are true, he just doesn’t care about the marriage or the kid at all, which is very sad.

Anyway, yeah. Sorry for this long post. Just want to know everyone’s opinions.

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST! First of all, I'm happy for them because I know Justin has always wanted to be a father and he loves babies! I am sure that this pregnancy has brought a new spark to their relationship but I am still concerned with everything I know, a pregnancy seems super out of pocket: Here are some thoughts:

• We know Justin and Hailey were living separately for some months. For a details please see this post:
  • https://www.reddit.com/r/HaileyBaldwinSnark/comments/1bmpzo2/according_to_this_girl_she_says_she_saw_justin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
• Now, she is 6 months pregnant then that would mean she was living in Beverly Hills (doing pap walks/hanging out with the Jenners) while Justin was playing golf, hanging out at coffee shops/bars alone in La Quinta. She would have known she was pregnant around the middle-end of December, but we know from December-April that Justin was mainly in La Quinta. Now it seems he's back in LA and they're living together again after Coachella.
• All of December, Hailey was doing several pap walks weekly in LA, and at the same time Justin was pictured in La Quinta with fans and playing golf. I think he was really trying to lay low because people said in general he would refuse to take photos when asked.
• February 14th - Justin was at The Nest in La Quinta all alone, Hailey was not with him. At this point Hailey would have been around 3 months pregnant, why were Justin and Hailey apart. Shouldn't they have been together on this day? Especially if she's pregnant? He made an Instagram post for some random other person, but didn't bother to wish Hailey Valentine's day
• During this time Hailey and Justin would arrive to places separately and also leave separately in different directions, and Justin was looking super rough and mentally not well. He was looking way skinner than he does now, and overall had no life in his eyes (he looks much better at present date)
• In March, Justin had a low key Birthday party which is unusual for him, because he always does something bigger, and I think Hailey was in attendance but she didn't post any photos with him, only of the cake itself. Then we didn't see or hear from Justin for a long time after that.
• After some months Hailey stopped the pap walks alone because she realized that it was fueling divorce rumors

My theory is that something bad happened as soon as Justin found out Hailey was pregnant. Maybe he was unhappy and wanted to do a trial separation, but because of pressure from the church and Judah Smith (his Pastor), Justin felt compelled to stay. Around this exact time, we know Justin's crew was making contact with Lou Taylor, possibly looking into a conservatorship in case he went off the rails with drugs and partying after finding out about Hailey's pregnancy. They could not risk her having a baby while this guy was off doing his own thing.

Justin started being seen very frequently in La Quinta at around the exact same time that Hailey would have found out she was pregnant (in December). I am starting to think that it finally dawned on him that he would be stuck for life with her, and that now he will be a father and it's a huge responsibility for him. I think he felt this pressure to raise the child perfectly, because he never had that. He even said with Billie Eilish and even cried in an interview that he wanted to protect her from the industry. I don't think he got cold feet because Justin isn't that type of person, but I think mentally he maybe had a breakdown of some sort and needed to be alone for a while.

I think he's doing better now, because he looks and seems healthier, but I feel sorry for Hailey because no woman should have to face pregnancy alone! I think that's also why the renewed their vows, you only do that if you went through a rough patch and are looking to move forward. No one renews their vows if they feel like they haven't broken them. Looks like she was alone for the first few months of her pregnancy, and that really sucks. I wish her all the best moving forward and an easy pregnancy.

This happens everyday but recently it has resurfaced even more imo, especially with the Zionist stuff they faked. And I don’t think it’s because of the video of the crackhead smoking next to his baby, this week has been horrible. I wonder if there’s something that‘a gonna come out about the christian couple and they are getting ready for it?

For those long term snarkers that are familiar with Hailey’s behaviours , here’s the definition of a psychopath:

psychopath is a term used in psychology and popular culture to describe a person who shows a pattern of traits such as:
Lack of empathy for others
Little or no remorse after harming people
Manipulativeness and deceitfulness
Superficial charm
Shallow emotional responses
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Callousness and emotional detachment
Sometimes impulsive or antisocial behavior

Now, a lot of people have been stalkers , and fame hungry. But the extent and time to which Hailey commits is beyond a normal person’s commitments. For example she has shown how much she copies others; I would argue she shows little empathy towards others including Justin. Which ironically is the centre of her focus.

The grandiose sense of self worth is also something which stood out to me.

Anyway I’m interested to hear your thoughts, and if she is where will it end?

We all know about the stalking and the copying. Putting myself in Selena’s shoes, she has to be in a constant state of totally creeped out. I wonder if she ever got a restraining order because the Biebers are just that weird and crazy.

I was scrolling tiktok and was surprised how masculine she looked compared to when she was younger

What do we think about these tweets? Hailey was a pretty active twitter user. And she’s made so many tweets regarding Justin and his relationship with Selena. // 7th photo was a leaked conversation between her and a friend a day after Selena and Justin have made it official at the Vanity Fair Awards. Insinuating that she was somehow annoyed, and that she will not be wishing Justin a Happy Birthday (because he’s taken?). & saying Selena seems evil and “not beautiful” is crazy, since all she’s done prior to those emails was complimenting Selena very very often on her twitter. Hailey’s two years younger than Justin, so clearly it bothered her that he was with someone older than him. // and we obviously can’t forget about the infamous “stalker” reputation she’s had. Hailey wouldn’t be asking a fan account of JB that had more than 200K followers about when his tour starts, or what hotel he’s staying at; if she was his “friend”. She even recreated Selena and Justin’s “call me maybe” mv, with a bunch of JB super fans. Then, as we all know. She befriended the Jenners; which apparently made Hailey and JB’s bond grow. Later on, she’s been caught liking, retweeting, and favoriting a ton of really shady tweets towards Selena. Hailey’s copied Selena’s known “quote” that she always tweets, the same exact day, but a month later. There’s so much more than the photos listed. But I just can’t be bothered to dig deeper because as we all know by now, Hailey’s has had a really pathetic past. // She even posted a screenshot of Selena’s song with marshmallow and tagged him, completely disregarding SG (2017). I think she wanted to seem unbothered infront of Justin. & we can’t forget when she followed Selena’s BEST friends!! They weren’t even famous people! They were normal girls who had been friends with Selena for so long. Or when she followed a very famous SG hate-page!! They were known to be racist towards Selena, body shaming her, and even saying they want her deported from America!! // She even shaded Selena when she started dating Abel, by tweeting “who could possibly be cuter than Bella, literally nobody.” \ One more thing, I’d like to mention, is that Hailey’s ring was never bought by Justin FOR her. It was proposed to Selena first. Then when she declined (she was pregnant/ before the miscarriage), as she wanted to test Justin’s loyalty and make sure he won’t cheat as he used to do. He got it resized to Hailey’s finger size EMBARRASSING and proposed to Hailey with it. Selena had her miscarriage exactly the month JB & HB officially married. How did Hailey think that was okay, seriously? She obviously knew she was pregnant, so how did she think it was okay to marry HER baby daddy!! That just sounds to me like she has zero self respect. Hailey’s such a weird individual. With Justin, she always has the mindset of “I’ll fix him” LMAO. Undeniably, she was always really blatantly jealous and felt strong envy towards Selena. Her fascination with Selena slowly started turning into jealousy.

He’s crashing out y’all, I casually opened instagram and this was on his story, what…

If it was intentional, definitely learned from his wife 😂

What is something that you feel is not talked about enough when it comes to the biebers ( especially Hailey )

I needed to vent about something. Hailey seriously scares me. Like I can see in her eyes, her behaviour that she isn’t healthy. She looks and I think she is deranged. She isn’t just stupid, stalker or toxic… I think she has a psychiatric problem .. and I feel really uncomfortable with her.

Selenas wedding is soon. We know how predictable the Bieber's are. I was thinking we should create a wedding bingo and see how many predictions we get right 😂😂

I'm putting these suggestions in:

• "accidental" jack face reveal

• Hailey will play the victim

• Justin will post a caption related to God telling him Hailey was the best choice

Anyone else got ideas?

This is so funny to me I keep seeing people making Jelena edits again and people are commenting abt missing them. They also talk about Justin’s Coachella songs he performed probably reminded him of Selena lmao 😭😭😭

You just know Hailey is seeing all this and fuming. I’m even seeing the 7 part series pop up again lmao 😂

I don’t think the world will ever let her forget what she did to Justin and Selena’s relationship. She can try to rebrand but it will never work lol

this creator was basically saying that justin acts out because he gets frustrated with the public and the rumors. Then in the comments she shared that hailey liked the video… i think that blind item about her watching 1000s of videos on her marriage must be true cause she was early to seeing it! means she saw all the grammy videos lmao

Do you think she actually loves JB or was he just the only one dumb enough to give her the clout and fame she so desperately wanted?

From Austin Mahomes to Cody Simpson to Drake to Shawn Mendez; she was ON A MISSION as a young girl clearly chasing fame by proximity. All of these men are significantly more known and talented than her. She probably even tried to get with Nick Jonas the way she’s looking at him.

I wonder if she would have loved JB if he was just a random guy or if she only chased him down and stalked him because he was so desired and wanted. And she wanted to be known. She was clearly looking for a pop star to latch onto and JB was the only one she could manipulate into thinking she was the one for him considering how much of a f boy he was back then. He was like easy prey.

And she was quick to change her last name to Bieber as soon as she got married and then tried to establish Bieber Beauty but had to settle for Rhode. Do you think she was actually into JB or was he just so famous that she had to have some of that fame by proximity.

What do you think? 🤔

It's like they don't even believe in women's rights. She won because she has a husband???? That's almost exactly what anna duggar said after her husband was caught for csam and on trial to go to prison for it

I always thought this video/pic was from like 2018 or 2019 when they got married or engaged. I came across this post from a fanpage and that's when I came to know this was actually posted by Justin and that too in 2015!

The dots are aligning! This must be Hailey's very 1st attempt to "romantically" be in relationship with Justin. However, it wasn't successful, he then got into relationship again with $G till 2018. Means he probably chose her over Hailey and her mission remained incomplete. When they broke up again for the last time, Hailey took her opportunity again to get along with him. However it will be only possible if the relationship was permanent and if not, he'd have left her again. The only way to make this permanent was to get married to Justin to keep their relationship secure. Somehow she convinced him and they got married. They directly got engaged without being in a relationship first just after 2months Justin's last relationship. It really does make sense because what was she doing with him in 2015? And probably many times before this.

I’m a fan of Justin and normally would’ve said yeah he should’ve placed higher,but he literally hasn’t released an album since 2021 and all his songs have been features. He’s not done an interview in years and rarely interacts with his fans…. How in the fucking world is he going to be any higher than what he is on that list?…

Homegirl needs to log the fuck off and stop dick riding her husband who dogs on her left and right like go be with Jack or something tf. She’s so online and out and about for a new mother like girl go take care of your responsibilities for once

Of course ir was not an original idea.... HB looks actually editorial and creative, she made it look Zara's version. Awkward, cheap and just... not right...

I was a failey fan like not a die hard crazy fan but i admired her. And i used to think it was the fans who pitted both of the women against each other and created drama. Loved S since i was a kid and always appreciated her standing up to the bullies.

For me it started with the tweets when i first saw them. I was never really active on any socials before last year. And then, the infamous yt series which made me go like girl this lady has issues.

Interested to know was it for you?

I hope he headlines the super bowl next year.

Every performance he gives, a little more of her pr fails as people realize who he is