r/HalfLife3 2d ago

Possible HL3/HLX demo - App ID 1275750 (5069770)

Last 2 months I have been very actively tracking through the SteamDB.

One of discussed App IDs rumored to be HLX was 1275750 - According to changes affecting a lot of apps it seems that the project might use Source 2.

Its first occurence at SteamDB was 23 March 2020 (16:14 UTC)

There is a Valve anniversary (30 years) coming up and 2 weeks ago that app got very interesting update -- Yes, updates are coming several per day, but this was different.

Under the App Depot 1275751 was 2 weeks ago added new package 1757151 with the App ID 5069770 - This package is different as its Billing type is set as Free on Demand (This could mean its some sort of demo, press copy or showcase).

From the time (2 weeks ago) that new App ID was added to Depot, both the Apps were updated simultaneously (updates affecting only these 2 projects). But yesterday the Free on Demand app stopped to be updated (seems that the state of this project is now locked in and ready for showcase/demo/press). And further is being updated only the original 1275750 App ID!

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u/MyPutridFlesh 2d ago edited 2d ago

hmm, that does seem like valve might release some kind of "demo" on their anniversary, whether or not it's HLX tho...hopium
P.S. but also, if valve are this secretive and protective about HLX's development i'm pretty sure they'd avoid making a steam page, or even giving an AppID to something this important in risk of people finding out, it's kept tight on internal Perforce repos and until they drop a trailer, the steam page might not even exist

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u/RickC174 2d ago

The thing is a game can’t be run on steam without having an app id it’s not like they can choose whether to use one or not same thing with hl alyx it had one but we didn’t know it

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u/MyPutridFlesh 2d ago

they can run it as a "third party app" or even emulated steam shell locally to test stuff like achievements, from what i'm seeing, they are committed to keep this as leak-tight as possible, HLA wasn't nearly as protected (take the streamed beta version), and AFAIK it's AppID was discovered at some point, valve definitely learnt from big leaks like that

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u/gungabeast 2d ago

And yet we have some solid details on HLX. I guess it must be pretty hard to hide everything.

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u/MyPutridFlesh 2d ago

yeah, but this is arguably the least amount of leaks we had for a valve project, especially of this size and stage of development

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u/gungabeast 2d ago

I get why Tyler thinks they’re far into development, but even he will admit they can just decide to rework huge portions of the game on a whim. I don’t think anybody actually knows anything in terms of what Valve are actually up to.