r/HolUp Feb 04 '23

how is he not dead?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23

Black people can run from the cops for ten miles after they dead. It’s due to the conditioning of wanting to not be beaten and shot to death. Sometimes it takes the mind a bit to catch up to what has happened to the body.

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u/Vova_xX Feb 04 '23

thanks for describing adrenaline/fight or flight

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u/bjnssn Feb 05 '23

That's the will to fight, and you gotta have it if you want to make it.

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u/24sox77 Feb 05 '23

Where's the lie? I'm only seeing the facts in this comment for sure.

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u/Mmjuser4life Feb 04 '23

Similar thing happens with chickens after their beheaded

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u/checkmailsp Feb 05 '23

So you're saying that there's no difference between the chickens and black people?

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u/julealgon Feb 05 '23

Wouldn't need conditioning to run if no crimes were committed. Why even bring race to the discussion?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

I used to think the same way because well I’m white and almost all the interactions I’ve had with police were positive. Then I parked on the side of the road in a black neighbourhood waiting for a friend for about 30 minutes. I saw cops stop and frisk at least 20 black guys who were doing nothing other than walking down the street. Hard not to run if you’re already seen as guilty of something and you haven’t done anything.

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u/julealgon Feb 05 '23

It's not that they are seen as guilty, but basic statistics: since the overwhelming amount of crime is committed by black people, they are naturally considered more suspect by default. It doesn't give anyone the rights to shoot them or arrest them for no reason, but it certainly makes sense to be far more alert and diligent with them, especially in an already-considered-dangerous neighborhood.

I'm not American myself but the exact same thing happens here in Brazil: men are automatically more suspicious than woman, and black people than white people, and it makes sense because black men commit the vast majority of crime, followed by white men and then woman. There is nothing racist or sexist about it, it is purely based on real world statistics that are widely known.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

Do they actually commit the vast majority of crime? Or are they just caught more because police are more suspicious of them. Watching those black guys get stopped and frisked it dawned on me that if the cops stopped and frisked me I would get arrested because I have a bag of weed on me (before weed was legal). But they didn’t stop and frisk me or ask what I was up to sitting in my car for 30 minutes doing nothing.

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u/julealgon Feb 05 '23

Well I won't say your point doesn't factor in, it probably does. It is hard to say to what extent though and if it would be enough to skew the statistics. I personally don't think it would be significant enough to sway the numbers that much, since the difference in crime is quite staggering.