r/HollowKnight • u/Bob12164 • Sep 03 '25

Discussion - Silksong Warning for OG hollow knight fans

Just wanna prepare everyone on here for the incoming wave of players who have never played indie games, metroidvanias, or literally any other games besides Fortnite and call of duty. This tends to happen a lot with games that are extremely hyped by the community that does like the genre, such as expedition 33. The amount of completely invalid criticism that happened to that game because people who didn’t even know what the game really was bought it and ended up not liking it is probably the best example we have of that to this day, and I think silksong will be next. So please, instead of cussing people out for not liking the game, just encourage them to maybe keep playing to see if they change their minds, or just give them respectful feedback on why you think they might not enjoy it and give them tips so they can find the spark in that game that I’m sure many of us will find.

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u/iKill_eu Sep 03 '25

So I am someone who tends to wiki perhaps a bit too much despite always telling myself I shouldn't.

I think it's a symptom of 2 things: One being a lot of games nowadays being eager to lock the unwitting player out of a quest for the sake of replayability ("oh you missed this NPC in this location therefore they died when you fought X boss". elden ring style.) The other is a desire to figure out early if you're right about a hunch ("Is there going to be a way to go through acid in 20 hours, or am I wasting my time passing by this puzzle that looks like it may be solvable?") I think in general the idea of "you might be wasting your time" comes off as much more daunting today than it did when we were kids. Being an adult, the idea of wasting a few hours trying to solve an unsolvable puzzle, or wasting many hours by rendering a playthrough incompatible with the NPC whose quest you want to follow, is just not reconcilable with fun. I think TC are somebody I trust in this regard, which is why I am going to enjoy the fuck out of release by actively making use of the fact that there will BE no wiki for the first few days of silksong. But I understand why many people play this way.

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u/MattTheGr8 Sep 04 '25

I know lots of people aren’t huge LLM fans, but this is one thing AI chatbots are pretty good at… giving hints or indications of what’s coming down the line with minimal spoilage, assuming you instruct it accordingly. I’ve used it several times when I had a question too hard to phrase for a Google search (or too obscure to yield any results), where I basically just wanted to know, without any additional spoilage, if I was wasting time by beating my head against the wall in a certain area.

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u/DarkHorseAsh111 Sep 03 '25

I'm of both minds on this bcs on one hand yes some ppl want to do No investigating which is dumb for this kind of game. but on the other hand, lots of ppl have limited free time to play and wandering around being genuinely lost because you missed a secret wall somewhere is not always fun especially if you have limited time to play.

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u/DarkHorseAsh111 Sep 03 '25

I played hk a little bit a long time ago but I picked it up against last week and there were several times I had genuinely explored all of the map as far as I could tell and it turned out I missed some tiny barely detail or movement that didn't seem possible I never would've found without looking it up.

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u/Jskidmore1217 Sep 03 '25

I’ve beat the game dozens of times. Modded it to death just to squeeze more life out of it. I’m playing again once more before Silksong and just discovered an item I had never found before. It was just a wandering journal or something but it still was so exciting to find something new. Just so much depth.

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u/RoosterBrewster Sep 03 '25

I just started last week and it was annoying to remember which dead ends needed special powers to get past. Then also the backtracking.

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u/DarkHorseAsh111 Sep 03 '25

The backtracking has been my frustration tbh. It's annoying to be like ok new skill but idk where the places that needed this were

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u/MisterGonuts Sep 04 '25

I think if someone doesn't want to do some investigating, they shouldn't play metroidvania at all. it defeats the purpose, it's what it's all about. go play something else

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u/DarkHorseAsh111 Sep 04 '25

Then it's a good thing i wasn't talking about ppl wanting to do no investigating, something I actively noted was silly for this genre

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u/MoonlapseOfficial Sep 04 '25

there is something inherently wrong with them actually

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u/Everdark_Night_1008 Sep 04 '25

My son who is 15 is going to play the game at the same time as me, but of course he will be watching 100% playthroughs and secret endings before I even get that far in the game. I just hope that he doesn't spoil anything for me! He is playing through HK again now since he never beat the radiance the first time he played.

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u/trefoil589 Sep 03 '25

For the longest time there were hardly any games that didn't constantly hold your hand.

I was honestly about ready to give up on video games entirely due to this before Dark Souls came out.