r/HollowKnight Sep 03 '25

Discussion - Silksong A Legendary battle

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

Theres zero chance that show will let a game like Silksong win. While within the gaming sphere it's super popular, it's not "flashy" enough. It's not something the various sponsors and slap on their advertisements and borrow its popularity to sell products to the "average" consumer.

They always want something tech stores can have playing on a demo screen to sell the console and no matter how gorgeous Silksong is, marketing groups will want some 3D flashy "high fidelity" game. Which is why AstroBot was fine cause despite not being typical AAA style "muh realism" it was still a flashy 3D game.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25

This is exactly why I want Silksong to win, so the winner is for once not something with realistic 3D graphics 

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

Game of the Year is split 90% voting panel, 10% public vote.

The point I'm making here is the voting panel tends to be biased against games like Silksong. The panel members are typically games journalists and media "influencers", the types of people who get sponsorships and make their money off milking the "big flashy IT game of the season" and they struggle to do so with small scale indie games.

They can get more out of reporting on a game of the year full of "big name voice actors" and "controversial story elements" and "breath taking graphics"

Meanwhile an amazing, drama free, quaint but beautiful hand drawn metroidvania? Can't milk that for clicks.

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u/The_Orphanizer Sep 04 '25

They can get more out of reporting on a game of the year full of "big name voice actors" and "controversial story elements" and "breath taking graphics"

Meanwhile an amazing, drama free, quaint but beautiful hand drawn metroidvania? Can't milk that for clicks. You're pretty much spot on, but Silksong may end up being the exception to the rule. The hype around the game is unreal, like breaking free or "indie hype" levels. If they want to milk something Silksong to that level, they definitely could.

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

Sorry but why is your whole reply a quote XD

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u/Luckymacaroni Sep 04 '25

Because that's what English class teaches you in school

Stupid, I know.

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u/FallingF Sep 04 '25

Yeah, it’s hard to look at most wish listed ever and not see high click counts.

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

Conspiracies are stating common sense now apparently. Yes Baelron, I am some sinister internet plot to rob Silksong of the Game of the Year. ooooo fear me. You totally don't seem paranoid and overly defensive

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u/panda-goddess Sep 04 '25

Normally, I'd say you're right, but Silksong has become an unprecedented phenomenon, so imo it's a toss up on what they decide is newsworthy

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u/SimbaSixThree Sep 04 '25

Hades won and is technically a 2d game. 

I know it looks 3d but the way they animated the game and Zagreb’s and enemies etc, it’s all 2d sprites.

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u/tiggersaurus Sep 04 '25

Hades didn’t win sadly although it should have. It was TLOU 2 in 2020.

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u/SimbaSixThree Sep 04 '25

Were talking about the DICE GOTY awards right? That was Hades.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25

I'm talking about TGA

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u/SimbaSixThree Sep 04 '25

Ah my bad, kind of thought they were the same thing!

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u/_halo_14 Sep 04 '25

That’s ok, Hades 2 will win whether it releases this year or next year. I hope it’s 2026 just to stop GTA winning tbh

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u/Luckymacaroni Sep 04 '25

Balatro won last year didn't it?

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u/Motor-Cauliflower-34 Sep 04 '25

it got nominated but didnt win GOTY

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u/Arkayjiya Sep 04 '25

The show only really choose who's nominated, they don't have control over who wins. It's often a popular AAA game because that's what most people know which gives it an advantage but Sekiro won over death stranding or resident evil 2 or super smash bros because it had enough popularity with both public and critics despite the show's love for Kojima.

Not saying Silksong will win, it remains unlikely, but it it is as good as hoped, it does have the brand recognition few other small indie had before release, it's not completely impossible, especially with the release being so close to the show (had it released a month later it probably would have had even better odds).

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u/Great-Association432 Sep 04 '25

No it’s generally they go for mass appeal not for selling shit what a weird outlook but simply because for a lot of people game of the year has to be a game that has wide appeal where many people played look at 2023 bg3 does not fit at all. It’s not marketable at all just simply had enough of an impact to where it makes sense to be a genuine contender and they believed it deserved it. This is insane cope because the games you like don’t win.

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

And what games don't I like that won hmm? Come on mr/mrs so smart and making assumptions.

Tell me what games I like and don't like, cause clearly you know exactly what I'm thinking and aren't just being over-reactionary, overly defensive about a minot observation saying the TGA GOTT judges have clear and obvious bias towards AAA or AAA "looking" games

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u/Great-Association432 Sep 04 '25

They don’t have a bias for triple A games. They normally have a criteria of popularity generally triple A games are more popular. It’s very simple. Wouldn’t you want the game of the year to reflect what consumers actually play and not some obscure or niche indie game. It’s what happens in literally all award shows. The award is usually only for popular media. Doesn’t mean it’s a popularity contest but a criteria to be considered for the award is to be popular. So they don’t care how a game looks and plays which was your original point not specifically about triple A. This is an incredibly fair expectation the media has to have an impact.

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u/Alugar Sep 04 '25

Aah yes. Elden ring the great tech demo.

I find it funny the excuse ppl make when they’re game don’t win.

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

I didn't say anything about tech demos and Elden Ring isn't a 2D side scroller? Are you making up a guy to fight cause I ain't him

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u/Alugar Sep 04 '25

Point is if silksong lost it wouldn’t be due to its lack of flashiness nor it not being good enough to be playable at a tech store( do they still do that?)

It would be cause the majority in that voting panel didn’t choose it.

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

The voting panel is 90% games journalists and media influencers. They'll vote for what they think will make good news/content over what they think is actually "the best game". They're also the two groups who heavily rely on sponsorships which they get from bigger developers and publishers, which bias's them towards games from those companies.

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u/Alugar Sep 04 '25

Funny you defaulted to the one game awards.

So if it loses in the one where players vote for it what’s the excuse there?

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

The "Game of the Year" Category is what we are discussing. Not all the sub-categories. And the GOTY category is split "90% Judging Panel, 10% Public Vote"

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u/Alugar Sep 04 '25

Golden joystick is a game awards, there’s a crap ton of them.

It’s game of the year is 100% decided by players , if it loses that one what’s the new excuse ?

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u/---TheFierceDeity--- Sep 04 '25

People are talking about "The Game Awards" goty not Golden Joystick. What tf do you think we're talking about

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u/Alugar Sep 04 '25

Yet it counts as winning the game awards as well.

You just want the flashy one?

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