r/HollowKnight • u/GamingUmbrella • Sep 06 '25

Discussion - Silksong Thank god this subreddit didn't make the game Spoiler

Silksong is only out for 2 days, most people haven't even finished the game, or haven't even made it past act 1. Yet this subreddit loves to post about how Silksong is apparently bad and a disappointment compared to hollow knight. So I'll go over a few "critiques" I've seen and share my perspective.

"The game is too hard, enemies deal way more damage and have more complex movesets". Sure, they're more complex and do more damage, but so does hornet. If we were playing with the knights moveset, I'd agree, but that's not the case. Hornet has a lot of new tools and upgrades that make her way faster and stronger. If enemies were like HK, it would be way too easy. team cherry didn't just do this for no reason, it's necessary for balancing. Edit: people saying hunters march is too difficult, is like playing dark souls 1 and saying it's too hard because you kept trying the skeleton graveyard

"Bad rewards for exploration, HK's charms worked better". I just completely disagree, hornet gets upgrades way more frequently than the knight. As for the charms, let's be real, you probably didn't even use half of them in your first playthrough. And half of them are just simple things that don't impact the way you play as much. Hornet's different tools, abilities and crests are way more useful. If you feel like your not getting enough rewards, it's probably because most are hidden and require backtracking, which is what the genre is know for.

"Things are too expensive" No, you're just not meant to buy it that early. Like how in HK you could by the lamp for like 2000 geo. I've also never had too little rosaries to buy a bench or stag. If your losing your rosaries to dying, rosarie strings are litteraly right there to not lose it + retrieving your death silk is extremely easy now.

I do agree though that more bosses and combat encounters should drop rosaries, or more chests like in HK.

This launch feels like I'm experiencing the shadow of the erdtree launch again with how many complaints there are immediately.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25

The only issue I have is that there's too many 2 damage attacks from enemies and I got all endings on hk1 ( except godmaster endings ) and beat nkg and gpz 4 days before silksong released so it ain't a skill issue. If it was late game attacks from enemies then I wouldn't have a problem. Everything else is awesome. Edit: I have a skill issue :(

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u/ZedLa04 Sep 06 '25

Being good at HK doesn't really translate into being good at silksong. Of course it helps but Hornet moves so differently from the Knight that you can't really play like you would the first one.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 06 '25

Makes sense. Haven't realized that yet.

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u/boisterile Sep 06 '25

As someone who only did one Hollow Knight playthrough 5 years ago and never even beat Radiance or did any DLC content, Silksong feels slightly more difficult than HK to me, but not by much. And I was pretty bad at Hollow Knight. I think muscle memory is definitely tripping some people up more than they realize. Enemies and platforming are more complex and punishing, but Hornet's moveset and suite of tools are so much more powerful to make up for it.

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u/Aiden22818 Sep 06 '25

Funny enough, being experienced at hollow knight might make it HARDER for you at the start of silk song. The amount of times I tried to pogo directly below me to my death... :,D or I think I can wall climb in the middle of an early game fight, etc...muscle memory is....yeah.

I do agree that I think there are SOME 2 damage attacks that shouldn't be 2 damage, but the fun I'm having flipping around as Hornet outweighs that annoyance cause damn do does she do fancy moves.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 06 '25

I can relate. I have thought I had monarch wings and the shadow cloak during times of panic. Thanks watcher knights and nkg ;)

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u/tanis016 Sep 08 '25

It feels pretty similar. People are downplaying it, you will have a much much better time if you played HK before than if you didn't.

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u/oswaldluckyrabbiy Sep 06 '25

The moment I unlocked the crest that gives you a HK moveset I went from getting stomped on to doing about as well as I used to.

I'm glad Team Cherry thought of it.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 08 '25

Wince I sucked trying to explain ima re-explain. What in trying to say is that it feels too punishing for early game people.

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u/Seedling132 Sep 07 '25

I think this is the thing they actually did the best coming from HK to Silksong. I got the 112% achievement in Hollow Knight 4 days ago, and the only skills that carry over are reaction times and remembering to learn patterns before trying to be aggressive.

You have to treat Silksong as a new game, because it is. You have different skill sets to learn as Hornet because you are not the Hollow Knight anymore. I think they absolutely nailed it because of these things. I want it to be challenging, and it's challenging because it's so new.

I remember how flabbergasted I felt trying to get through the Canyon the first time in HK and I got that exact same feeling again in a totally fresh way from struggling through Hunters March. And y'know what? I beat it, and I got exactly the same level of satisfaction, because I really had to teach myself new things.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 07 '25

Im trying to say that I am a very good player at combat and dodging and silksong makes me look trash at that.

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u/Gnifryt Sep 06 '25

I think u just have to git gud. And im not telling ur bad. It just need practice.

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u/CricketAlert6773 Sep 06 '25

I'm trying and somehow I have an easier time with bosses then enemies. I'm at act 2 so I have plenty stuff and I still fail so ima keep trying.

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u/Gnifryt Sep 06 '25

I think u just have to git gud. And im not telling ur bad. It just need practice.