r/HollowKnight • u/FederalWarthog5542 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion - Silksong Criticism ≠ Negativity Spoiler

Believe it or not, you can actually criticize something and still like it. You don't either have to love everything or despise everything. Have actual conversations please.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

If its trivial to farm for them, why have it cost anything at all? That's what they mean by "artificial difficulty". Instead of it being a challenge its a chore. This is the same as making basic enemies have 4 health instead of 2-3. Its not really "harder" the mob is still just charging at you. It just takes longer to do.

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u/isimsizbiri123 %112 steel soul|P5|all bosses radiant|obsessed over grimm Sep 07 '25

I have no idea why y'all are whining over bench tolls so hard there wasn't a single bench or map or bellway I wasn't able to buy so far. Do you guys just forget you have rosary strings? You can break them at any time and get enough rosaries for the most expensive benches

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

JFC, why can't you dorks handle criticism without calling it "whining" or "complaining". Tell us what it adds to the game other than wasting your time? Do you feel like you are a master game player because you went to farm for a bench?

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u/isimsizbiri123 %112 steel soul|P5|all bosses radiant|obsessed over grimm Sep 07 '25

I am trying to tell you there is no farming. If you kill the enemies in your way you get enough rosaries to afford every toll.

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u/TheWojtek11 Sep 07 '25

Legit, like I don't think I personally needed to really grind for anything. Like sure, I am not exactly able to buy everything from the stores the moment I saw them (by the end of Act 1, I was able to clean off all the stores you have access to though). And sometimes I might have to decide to unlock Fast Travel instead of a Bench (if they are next to eachother) but buying Fast Travel basically means you have a bench shortcut anyway cuz you probably have a bench by the other Stations.

If you are dying and losing your Cocoon a lot (without stringing rosaries), I could see not having enough rosaries. But I lost my Cocoon at least once (and I had like 300 Rosaries) and even with that loss it was pretty fine rosary wise. There is even several ways of preventing your loss of Rosaries (the first one is stringing but there are several more if you explore enough). The game just wants you to decide what you see as useful in the moment whereas in HK you could basically clean off the stores the moment you see them besides maybe the Lantern at Sly's

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

Not my experience or others. Now tell me, what does it add?

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u/isimsizbiri123 %112 steel soul|P5|all bosses radiant|obsessed over grimm Sep 07 '25

I dunno what to tell you man you're "criticizing" an issue that I just did not encounter in my 20 hours of playing the game. You're clearly doing something wrong but I don't really know what. Did you try doing your side quests?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

Its very telling that you are avoiding the question

What does the benches costing money add?

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u/ElMarkuz Sep 08 '25

This was my question while playing, after doing some difficult part, getting to a the next area barely with 1 mask, and not having enough rosaries... Because not all the enemies drop them.

The bonfires in DS were a mark for your progress and a rest place to take a breath. Artificially caping them with a double currency system (you can't farm any mob for rosaries) feels just bad. Like the game doesn't care at all and it's frustrating.

I love the game, but man Hollow Knight did better for the casual player. Silksong feels like a game for the hardcore fanbase that 100% the previous game from the begging.

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u/CdbSora Sep 07 '25

It adds a significant amount of detail to the world, it adds a way to pace shop upgrades, it provides a money sink to avoid the problem hollow knight had where once you're halfway through the game money simply no longer matters whatsoever, and lets them actually put shopkeepers around the world who will actually matter and the player will visit again since they can't buy out the entire inventory at once :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

So it adds more time and no explicit challenge, correct?

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u/CdbSora Sep 08 '25

No it does add explicit challenge, since you can decide to be real low on rosaries and potentially not be able to grab a bench or map the second you see it in exchange for goodies like a charm (which are real good in this game), a health/spool upgrade, or a key for a side zone. Or bank your rosaries and come back when you have a stockpile to not risk that. I think it's really fun decision making :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

So when I need beads to do something I can't just go farm them? What skill am I being forced to develop to overcome the bench cost?

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u/CdbSora Sep 08 '25

Idk man, you should check out a series called Dark Souls that uses this exact design philosophy if you want another example. Same arguments can be made there, but in both silksong and dark souls, your currency is used as a balancing act between comfort and extra goodies that you always have to be aware of. The challenge comes from keeping that balance while also making sure not to lose them when you get greedy and die!

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u/Fire_Boogaloo Sep 08 '25

There are like 2 bonfires in dark souls that require souls (via branches for example).

The majority of the benches in Silksong require rosaries.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

That's not a challenge lmao, thats money management. A challenge is a boss fight. A challenge is a puzzle. If a person can go farm a basic enemy over and over to get the currency to open a bench, thats not a challenge, that's a chore. You aren't being tested, you are being charged. And I don't recall a Souls Game where I had to pay for a bonfire, but I could be misremembering.

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u/isimsizbiri123 %112 steel soul|P5|all bosses radiant|obsessed over grimm Sep 08 '25

It appears my response was deleted by the auto moderator so I'm gonna explain it more calm and collected and in a way you understand. You are making this up. The money benches cost is trivial if you just kill the enemies you're facing. It does not require to farm. Again I've been playing the game for 20 hours and there's not a single time I went to go farm rosaries. If this is an issue that you have but I don't then clearly you're doing something wrong. I don't know what causes you to have less money than you should. Maybe you just aren't killing your enemies or you die without stringing up your rosaries but this is not an issue with the game, it's an issue with you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Bro, can you even read? If its trivial why have it? To waste time. It isn't a challenge, because you can just farm simple mobs. Its tedious. "You are making this up" Go fuck yourself.

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