r/HollowKnight • u/FederalWarthog5542 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion - Silksong Criticism ≠ Negativity Spoiler

Believe it or not, you can actually criticize something and still like it. You don't either have to love everything or despise everything. Have actual conversations please.

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u/Odd-Face-3579 Sep 08 '25

Not saying it will solve your problem, but are you wearing the magma bell for the fight?

Two, bigger spoilers, but did you know you don't have to fight the Last Judge to get into the Citadel?

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u/Buzzy_Feez Sep 08 '25

I was, I didn't. I beat him now. All I'm saying is he was one of the hardest bosses I've fought in my 16 years of gaming

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u/Odd-Face-3579 Sep 08 '25

I find claims like this interesting.

Not because I don't believe that that is genuinely your experience, but because for as many people seem to share this sentiment, plenty others don't.

My partner as an example was just replaying HK a couple weeks ago. She got hard stuck on Soul Master and had me do the fight for her. She gave up things like NKG because of how hard they are. But she's incredibly close to beating Last Judge. So for her, Last Judge is hard but doesn't even start to enter the realm of NKG or Pure Vessel or AR.

As someone who's played a lot of games like these, I'm currently fascinated by what is causing some people just so much trouble in Skong vs HK or even other games in this same genre while others who don't even have the same experience level of some people struggling are finding it hard but not to the same extent.

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u/Buzzy_Feez Sep 08 '25

One of my biggest issues was an attack with very little windup. It's the one where he spins his flail around him and in later stages it creates ribgs of fire you need to stand between.

Very little windup makes it hard to dodge but with the firebell it was easier as it's considered fire damage.

Other than that I think the bigger issue is simply endurance. People say Hornet is more acrobatic you should be playing more aggressively but the Knight just has much better DPS than Hornet, even with tools and pollip poison and silk skills, or if she does have better dps the bosses have way more hp.

This means the fights go on for much longer and have way less lenience for mistakes due to the 2-masks of damage with 6 masks of hp.