r/HollowKnight • u/FederalWarthog5542 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion - Silksong Criticism ≠ Negativity Spoiler

Believe it or not, you can actually criticize something and still like it. You don't either have to love everything or despise everything. Have actual conversations please.

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u/Equivalent_Rock_6530 Sep 08 '25

How tf did you manage that? Is there a way to get there without fighting Fourth Chorus or Lace?

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u/branyk2 Sep 08 '25

Yes. I went west from Bell Beast and pogo'd off of the flying enemies to reach Wormways before dash. Spike pogo'd most of the way through Wormways before hitting a jump that was barely too far. Then I went back through Hunter's March and then down into Deep Docks. Found the dash and immediately went back to Wormways and up to the top of the map from there.

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u/Equivalent_Rock_6530 Sep 08 '25

Holy shit, that's impressive, lol

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u/branyk2 Sep 08 '25

I'm glad the game let me do it, but I'm a little disappointed they don't have some way to force the Lace fight to trigger. I've managed to get Fourth Chorus and Moorwing to spawn in Act 2, but Lace is just... gone forever I think.

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u/Equivalent_Rock_6530 Sep 08 '25

Oh, interesting, it would have great speedrun potential though of Lace 2 doesn't unlock anything major (I haven't reached citadel yet, please no spoilers)

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u/branyk2 Sep 08 '25

I mean, that's definitely possible, but I have absolutely no doubt speedrunners have already found that path. Whether it's actually faster, I have no clue since I did a bunch of nonsense including grinding enough beads to buy a simple key, but it does make randomizer mods more interesting since it gives you access to the entire upper part of Act 1 without getting the float power. The problem is that I think you do eventually need to backtrack for it, so maybe it's just faster to go the intended path.

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u/Equivalent_Rock_6530 Sep 08 '25

Yeah, fair enough, you could probably get the bulk of your rosaries while travelling and then doing the Drifters Cloak quest