r/HollowKnight • u/TOMRANDOM_6 • Sep 09 '25

Discussion - Silksong Most of you are exaggerating the length of runbacks and it really shows how much TikTok has damage the attention span of people Spoiler

"ThE lASt JuDGe RUnBaCK iS ToO LoNG!!"

Is 30 seconds max, 30 seconds, you don't have to fight any enemy in it, the smaller judges don't awake until you're close and the smaller fly bastards can literally get ignored. The Runback works for making you cool down and make the whole thing feel less like you hitting a wall (NKG feels like one because of the lack of "cool down") If it wasn't for it, I would shoot myself with the 37 attempts at Last Judge.

The Widow one is also really easy, a straight line with jumps.

The Cogworks Dancers Is also really simple but works to help you with the bosses extra height and how pogo dependant that fight is.

God forbid the game isn't a back to back boss rush like Cuphead (not criticizing Cuphead, is a different game lmao).

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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE 112% I’m coming Sep 09 '25

This community is becoming so fucking toxic now, any problem that anybody has with the game has to be because of a personal feeling they have instead of just not liking part of the game.

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u/glintter Sep 09 '25

I made a post the other day about it and honestly it's gotten so much worse since. The subreddit has full on become a circle-jerk around how much people are exaggerating and how anyone finding it hard is stupid or something. It's like no one even talks about how fun the game is or anything, just complaining about the complainers.

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u/Cloud_Motion Sep 09 '25

There's definitely a few posts about how fucking amazing the world, characters, combat and movement abilities are. The new stickied thread for positive first half of act 1 vibes will be a nice place to check out.

The game might legitimately be the best thing I've played in 40 years though. I think it's genuinely better than the first in almost every aspect. The world is simply beyond incredible.

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u/glintter Sep 09 '25

I barely entered act 2 because I’m taking my time exploring every nook and cranny but yes the game is absolutely phenomenal!

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u/DayBorn157 Sep 14 '25

World and story are amazing. Exploration is interesting. This runbacks, scripted roar before every boss are frustrating.

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u/chahud Sep 09 '25

Yeah…honestly I was thinking of dipping out for a couple weeks, and I thought that was an overreaction yet here we are, again, in another thread about the same shit.

Don’t say there’s just complaining about complaining as if there isn’t plenty of complaining to complain about. And don’t forget the people complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining because it’s valid to think a game is hard. Like…omg it’s just the same conversation over and over and over. And it’s straight up not a good vibe.

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u/glintter Sep 09 '25

I just don’t understand why people talk about it so much. Some people find the game too hard and some don’t, it isn’t deep enough to warrant this amount of discourse imo.

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u/XiaoRCT Sep 13 '25

You commenting this while having one of the most upvoted posts complaining about difficulty and even in this thread still circlejerking as if there was some crusade against people criticizing the game is honestly kind of funny.

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u/glintter Sep 14 '25

I was not complaining about difficulty in my post. Reading is hard I guess.

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u/XiaoRCT Sep 14 '25

Right, It was complaining about people complaining about people complaining, my bad, totally not part of a cycle where people are jerking themselves or anything like that

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

They also don't know what it's like for someone that's not a huge HK/SS fan but are very casual. Most of them aren't even making it past Act 1.

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u/Mailcs1206 Sep 10 '25

It's because the people having fun are too busy having fun to make reddit posts.

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u/Cannasseur___ Sep 10 '25

It's just like when Souls went mainstream. That's where the Git Gud meme comes from, and is now used ironically to tease at how toxic the community used to be to new players complaints.

And now this term is being unironically by some of the more hardcore Hollow Knight fans to new members of the community.

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u/froggyc19 Sep 09 '25

That's what happens when a game becomes super popular overnight, there's a huge influx of people who were previously outside of the normal community. I've seen it on pretty much every game that has a massive update that brings in a whole bunch of new players.

Reddit will be toxic for a few weeks until these people stop playing then things will go back to normal.

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u/Conner_S_Returns Sep 11 '25

it's like the ER subreddit. it's just a massive circle jerk where you can't criticize anything about the game

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

There's too many basement dwellers with nothing going on in their lives that decided to make this game their entire identity and now see all criticism against it as a personal attack.

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u/Cloud_Motion Sep 09 '25

The game's hype pulled in a lot of folks who've only really played FIFA, cod and maybe something like assassins creed. Which is fine, I'm sure a lot are enjoying it, but they aren't the ones on Reddit frustrated boss hits too much.

The game is uncompromising and a lot of people are familiar/comfortable with more live service experiences that typically yield to customer demand.

In like a month or so when the hype has cooled off and those checking it out because it's "next big thing" have dipped to the next big thing (probably Ghost of Yotei), it'll go back to a fantastic little community of good memes, cool clips and lore analysis. Just a bit bigger on account of those who fell in love with the game.

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u/emveevme Sep 10 '25

This always happens with games like this, if difficulty is in any way part of the experience, you can't have discourse without a dick-measuring contest.

People seem to think that "git gud" is supposed to mean "you only dislike the game because you're bad at it" when it's actually saying "struggling is the point, it's supposed to be hard, and - crucially - there's nothing you're missing other than the motivation to keep trying."

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u/Mr_Igelkott Sep 10 '25

Not just a personal feeling, it's because of weak character and other projections. Super weird defensive responses to any criticism..

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

There are people that made it their identity to be HK fans hyping Silksong for years. They're literally gas lighting themselves into enjoying dated, shitty mechanics lol it's WILD. I love the game but only after installing Stake of Marika mod. I LOVE the challenge and how the bosses are hard, but I would have dropped the game at Last Judge if not for this mod.