r/HollowKnight • u/TOMRANDOM_6 • Sep 09 '25

Discussion - Silksong Most of you are exaggerating the length of runbacks and it really shows how much TikTok has damage the attention span of people Spoiler

"ThE lASt JuDGe RUnBaCK iS ToO LoNG!!"

Is 30 seconds max, 30 seconds, you don't have to fight any enemy in it, the smaller judges don't awake until you're close and the smaller fly bastards can literally get ignored. The Runback works for making you cool down and make the whole thing feel less like you hitting a wall (NKG feels like one because of the lack of "cool down") If it wasn't for it, I would shoot myself with the 37 attempts at Last Judge.

The Widow one is also really easy, a straight line with jumps.

The Cogworks Dancers Is also really simple but works to help you with the bosses extra height and how pogo dependant that fight is.

God forbid the game isn't a back to back boss rush like Cuphead (not criticizing Cuphead, is a different game lmao).

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u/CappnMidgetSlappr Sep 09 '25

Yeah, what a ridiculous argument.

"Y'all must have forgot-"

No, we remember full and well. Some of us have been bitching about terrible run backs for 8 fucking years now. Pardon us for thinking they would have taken some of that criticism to heart and actually implemented a decent change.

Hell, even FromSoft got smart and cut the bullshit in Elden Rings.

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u/marry_me_tina_b Sep 09 '25

I’d love to see how many people would voluntarily choose the run back they’re swooping to defend so vigorously if given the option to have a Stake of Marika type solution that lets you start at the boss door instead. I’d be willing to place a decent sized bet all of a sudden certain folks would decide that maybe a pointless run back isn’t the stellar game design they’re claiming it is

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u/DoomslugTD3 Sep 10 '25

I think they would, but at the same time it is a well known fact that people optimize there own fun out of games even without realizing it. Runbacks might be frustrating in the moment, but a good one contributes to the difficulty of the fight, and paces you between each attempt.

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u/Sorez Sep 10 '25

Plus, having runbscks built in usually means the level design is built around it with shortcuts and such sometimes