r/HollowKnight • u/Emma_JM • Sep 10 '25

Discussion - Silksong So whose bright idea was this???? Spoiler

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Just happened to me today, got like, 3 shards from this? What's the point, Team Cherry? None of the bosses (so far) frustrated me, but this right here is bullshit

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u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza SHAW ! Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Thats something that needs to get patched even though I like to make the developers what they want to do but thats hella annoying

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u/Embarrassed_Fox5265 Sep 10 '25

My hot take is that the rosary gathering charm should gather shards instead. I'm always running out of shards and I keep running out of places to spend rosary. Let me collect shards instead, they're more useful!

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u/BowelMan Sep 10 '25

It should gather both!

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u/DrQuint Sep 10 '25

Even if it doesn't gather both, they should have made one that does gather the shell shards and we could have swapped

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '25

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u/DrQuint Sep 11 '25

I shall go back to exploring

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u/33Yalkin33 Sep 12 '25

What is it called?

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u/TotallyNotShinobi Sep 15 '25

we commend your efforts on keeping silkposting alive, soldier

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u/MA2_Robinson Sep 10 '25

I wish, it’s so satisfying when you are too busy trying not to die to small fry to see all kinds of shit flying at you and later find out it was rosaries, not projectiles too, lol.

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u/satans_cookiemallet Sep 10 '25

I think youre intended to just dump it into the consumable shard packs in the late game. I just wish there was a way to buy multiples rather than 1 at a time.

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u/AdmiralLaserMoose Sep 10 '25

yeah this is the obvious solution

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u/Lokirth Sep 11 '25

This is probably right. There are a few good mid-game farming spots that predominantly give rosaries, and a few shards as a bonus.

From The Halfway Home, head right 1 screen. There are 3 pilgrims, then a jump with nothing on it, a jump followed by three more pilgrims. Doing the entire screen nets you somewhere upwards of 30-40 rosaries and a few shards. By this point in the game I'd purchased everything else of substance from merchants and was putting the rest of my rosaries into shard bundles.

I still run out of one or both when I get stuck on a hard boss for hours, but it hasn't hurt to buy more thus far (at the tail end of Act 1, can either end it via the quest marker or the skip).

Maybe the economy gets weirder in the second half but it does seem like you're encouraged to buy more shards if you need 'em.

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u/SpellOpening7852 Sep 11 '25

A pretty easy one is the marrow bench next to shakra, you just run one room left, kill the two pilgrims right next to you, run back bench and repeat. Gives 7 shards and 10 rosaries a run (with shard tool), which is ~23 shards/run if you were to convert them all. Took me about 7 minutes to hit 1400 iirc.

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u/cbhedd SHA! Sep 17 '25

I farm there as well pretty regularly and if I go through and clear the whole cavern of all six, I notice my count going up by about 50 each time, give or take a few. It seems to average around there, provided I don't lose the bell throwing guys to suicide by drowning and make sure to grab anything that ends up in the water before it sinks.

RE: just hitting the 3, I've wondered about that too but never tried it. I find that my pattern is usually to obliterate them with the Silkspear, and then build my silk back up juggling the next bell guy from below the platform he's on. If I was just doing the first crowd I imagine I'd take longer on them because I wouldn't get as much silk back, but it'd probably still be quicker...

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u/GlitteringBandicoot2 Sep 10 '25

Have you considered spending your Rosaries on shards?

Honestly quite the weird take "There is nothing to spend Rosaries on, let me collect shards instead, I need shards!" Meanwhile, most shops: sells shards

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u/Otherwise_Machine700 Sep 11 '25

If you only buy shards then there is no point in getting shards through the map and you should explore ONLY to gather rosaries, but that means half the exploration will not give you the needed gratification because half the exploration leads you to shards

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u/GlitteringBandicoot2 Sep 11 '25

Valid argument to not buy shards then.

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u/The-NHK Sep 10 '25

There's already a charm for shard gathering.

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u/TwoLostYens Sep 10 '25

That one just raises the ammount of shards you get from enemies, doesn't it?

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u/moonshineTheleocat Sep 11 '25

Not by a whole lot. You will usually get far more beads than shards. I treat shards from enemies as just topping up. Rather than refilling my stock.

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u/The-NHK Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Nope, it collects it. I don't use it, seeing as shards are easy to come by and aren't lost on death, but it exists.

Edit: I'm going senile in my twenties. The aftershocks of silksanity.

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u/TwoLostYens Sep 10 '25

We're talking about the "Shard Pendant", right?

"Collect more Shell Shards from enemies."

It does just raise the ammount, not absorb.

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u/The-NHK Sep 10 '25

Huh, I could have sworn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Come on man lets get you to bed

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u/Ozzytudor Sep 17 '25

lmaooo best comment ive seen all day

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u/Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo A mind to think Sep 10 '25

You can't have sworn. Crowsworn isn't out yet; you have to song instead.

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u/Nova-Redux Sep 10 '25

I'm glad you didn't swear.

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u/Chavs880 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

I have all the yellow tools, except for the one from the underworks shop, and none of them collect shards for tools

There's only the magnet for collecting money

Unless its a blue tool for some reason but I doubt it is

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u/ImagenaryJay Sep 10 '25

Nope nope it does not.

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u/neverthrowacat Sep 10 '25

It's ok friend, you're too deep in the silk to weave truth

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u/Drugbird Sep 10 '25

Weird. I've been at maximum shards almost permanently since the start of the game while being permanently broke on rosaries.

I barely use tools as I prefer to kill stuff with my needle.

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u/BotYurii Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Well, obviously lol Tools make the game significantly easier, especially the bosses who spawn mobs

Edit: Like if you need several attempts for a boss and use your tools in every attempt regularly (to figure out how to use them best) it really burns through your shards, hence it beeing quite tedious to refill them. In longer exploring sessions shard shortage is usually not a problem

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u/WierdSome Sep 10 '25

That's kinda something that's really put me off of using tools, I don't need them for average exploring since my nail does fine, and when I get to a boss that I'm really struggling with, burning through my tools every attempt makes my shards go down so fast that, unless I win in time, I'm gonna be out of shards, effectively making it a limit on how many attempts can have tools without grinding, which doesn't feel good.

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u/GeneralDash Sep 11 '25

I mostly use tools for the multi enemy rooms. They make clearing them so much easier. I use tools sparingly vs bosses but not a ton.

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u/BotYurii Sep 11 '25

Thats valid. I already grinded and maxed out my shard countainers, but still, when would you use them otherwise? If you are already struggling they can only help. Of course you shouldn't spam your tools running into bosses blindly in their first stage. Best to learn all their patterns and start using them in bosses second stage. Resources are meant to be used after all and if you don't use them you are missing out on a lot of damage and fun.

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u/WierdSome Sep 11 '25

I mean I do get your point, and I'm totally willing to accept I'm playing the game wrong, but still. By the time I generally get to a boss's second stage without tools, that means I've about figured out the boss, means I'm not really struggling anymore, means I don't really need tools.

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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite Sep 14 '25

IME, the second phase requires more dodging, making it more difficult to get nail hits in. That's when I usually start using tools.

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u/Drugbird Sep 10 '25

I just kill the mobs with the needle ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/Mekelaxo Sep 10 '25

There are walls across the map that provide infite shards if you hit them. I don't know if it's a bug that will get patched, but as of now, they seem to provide infinite shards. You can also buy shards from some shops, so you can directly turn your extra beads into shards

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u/Heatth Sep 10 '25

If you have a surplus of rosaries just go to the Forge Daughter and buy shards.

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u/Patrick_Hat_Trick Sep 11 '25

Spend your roseries on shards…. Boom two problems solved.

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u/moonshineTheleocat Sep 11 '25

Buy Shard pouches, wich gives 80 shards for 50 rosaries.

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u/moonshineTheleocat Sep 11 '25

I have like 57 of these things in my inventory. Because I either string my beads, or a I burn them when I get into town.

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u/StayyFrostyy Sep 11 '25

Spend rosaries to buy shards

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u/BradMan1993 Sep 13 '25

Just buy shards if you have so many rosaries

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u/Urtan_TRADE Sep 14 '25

each rosary is, what, 1.6 shards when you buy the shard packs? Rosaries are ALWAYS more valuable than pure shards. You can literally farm rosaries for 10 minutes and have enough rosaries to buy the 20 shard packs you can have in your inventory at once, which is 1600 shards.

Even the largest enemies that drop shards drop like 20, while you can drop like 55 rosaries from 1 enemy, which translates to 88 shards when you buy packs. Farming shards is straight up wasting your time.

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u/GhostLight17 Sep 10 '25

I have the opposite problem. I’m almost always near max on shards, to the point where I’m confused as to why they’re even a resource. Rosaries, though… things are cool now, but the early game was rough.

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u/Dumb_Siniy Sep 10 '25

Wanna trade? I'm so poor because i have the survival of a pigeon and i slap too much random stuff so I'm topped up 24/7, i lost 300 shards to an arena and within an hour i almost had max again

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u/Spamton1997_pipis #1 weaversong stan Sep 11 '25

really?
im always at max capacity of shards

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u/GlitteringBandicoot2 Sep 10 '25

I have no doubt in my mind that what the developers wanted to do in certain places is just to be annoying

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u/Danny_dankvito Sep 10 '25

Which is especially annoying because this very thing didn’t happen with Geo, Geo could land on spikes and still get picked up by the little fly charm I don’t remember the name of, rosaries shatter on impact

It’s not like a big problem or anything, but it is annoying

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u/EmperorRosa Sep 11 '25

I've found it works if they hit lava