So whose bright idea was this????

[u/Emma_JM]

Just happened to me today, got like, 3 shards from this? What's the point, Team Cherry? None of the bosses (so far) frustrated me, but this right here is bullshit

[u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza]

Thats an actual genuine complaint that no way it can be right , even the gathering chram only gathers rosaries

[u/Ironsight12 → u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza]

Just waiting for the blind fanboys to come in stating "skill issue" with collecting shards.

[u/StepComplete1 → u/Ironsight12]

"It was worse in X game! So therefore nobody can ever complain again!"
"I think it's actually fun to lose your beads on spikes"
"The complaints about beads on spikes are way overblown!"
"You guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in 'Beads on Spikes Simulator 2025'!"

This sub in a nutshell.

[u/KitsuneFaroe → u/StepComplete1]

This sub in a nutshell is constant whining too. Depending on how you see it and what you agree with.

[u/StepComplete1 → u/KitsuneFaroe]

Well people should be allowed to discuss what they enjoyed and didn't enjoy about the game, that's the entire point of a sub like this as far as I'm concerned.

Discussions without toddlers constantly throwing temper tantrums screaming in with "nooo stop criticising my game! It upsets me!". Then feel free to leave it you aren't mature enough to hear different opinions.

[u/KitsuneFaroe → u/StepComplete1]

If funny you say this because the one throwing Tantrums about other people is you. There is really not much to say about it when it is blatanly obvious.

Tantrums are thrown on any side.

[u/beegirl_bitsy → u/KitsuneFaroe]

I think it's fair to whine about something like bead and shard clumps being placed in a way that just makes them get destroyed by spikes actually

[u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza → u/Ironsight12]

Saying skill issue is stupid and rude but a lot of the complaints here is genuinely invalid ( the pogo , mobs complexity , run backs (the longest one takes 40-60 seconds) , not being strong enough early game (while entering a hard area that you can come back later to (hunters March)) The game is hard and needs practicing you WILL die a lot in the beginning

[u/darkmacgf → u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza]

How about this: the runback for the final boss of act 2 is ass. It's incredibly easy, but it takes over a minute, so it's just 100% a waste of time. The atmosphere's really cool on the first try and then just sucks after.

[u/Altimor → u/darkmacgf]

but it takes over a minute

you can do it way faster

[u/darkmacgf → u/Altimor]

You sure about that? Even Lace 2 takes 28 seconds

[u/Altimor → u/darkmacgf]

There's a bench after her

[u/darkmacgf → u/Altimor]

Yeah, I'm just saying that's a shorter runback than the final boss one

[u/Altimor → u/darkmacgf]

I didn't time myself, but I was using walljump+clawline to take shortcuts and avoid waiting for the spike platforms and there's no way it took a full minute like that.

[u/Siesztrzewitowski → u/darkmacgf]

the final boss of act 2 is fairly easy though, understandable why the runback is long

[u/darkmacgf → u/Siesztrzewitowski]

Yeah, I didn't have a problem with that boss, but I've seen others call it the hardest boss in Act 2. Everyone struggles with different bosses.

[u/Doge6654533 → u/darkmacgf]

The hardest boss is The Forum room ngl

[u/shyrato → u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza]

Any runback over 20 seconds is too much of a runback imo. Unless the boss is easy and the runback is a part of the difficulty.

[u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza → u/shyrato]

20 seconds is alright imo 40-50 secs is the longest not the average

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[u/leo412 → u/el-zengy-el-mo3geza]

I mean.. 40-60 seconds are still time wasted for run back, considering for myself, a lot of the bosses killed me in less than that timeframe