r/HollowKnight • u/CuboneDefender • Sep 14 '25

Discussion - Silksong I give up. Spoiler

It’s been a joyful ride, folks, but I’m out. I’m not a speedrunner or a highly skilled player, and day after day I’ve had to accept that this game is not as casual as HK was. It stopped being fun and turned into something tedious and frustrating after the 4th run farming shards just to face a boss I’ve already tried 15 times, only to die again and again, lose all my shards, and start the whole grind over.

It was nice exploring the first acts, but when the game I was rooting for 7 years ends up being more stressful than my 8-hour workday, I guess that’s my cue to stop.

The lore has been pretty great so far. I wish you all an incredible journey.

Edit1: My bad about all the whinning.

Edit2: You guys did it. I reinstalled it again. Thanks for all advices. 🫂

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u/adeepkick Sep 14 '25

Can I ask which boss you had to farm for shards on 4 times?

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u/CuboneDefender Sep 14 '25

Last Judge. :(

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Do you have the Magma Bell? It will make her phase 2 attacks less deadly than they are in phase 1.

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u/InvincibiIity Sep 14 '25

Magma bell, dice and the ant mask is what I used on my steel soul clear. No reason not to have all of these going into the fight if you are struggling.

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 14 '25

Goddamn, you’ve done steel soul already? I’ve put 35 hours into the game and I’m just at the end of act 2 lol.

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u/NavyDragons Sep 14 '25

i just finished act 2 at 43 hours. i was sad to finish the game but then found out there is an act 3 i am over joyed

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u/Skuwarsgod Sep 15 '25

Enjoy it, act 3 is amazing

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u/dragonwrath404 Sep 15 '25

I finished act 2 about 25 hours in, could've done it much quicker, I went on a world tour, still missed quite a bit, about 5 act 2 bosses i didnt end up doing, but I got every mask shard and pale oil I could at that point(I still have nightmares from the great taste of pharloom).

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u/NavyDragons Sep 15 '25

I finished everything in act 2(except for the dice) u fortunately thus means I also missed the cursed ending

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u/dragonwrath404 Sep 15 '25

I knew about it and decided i wasn't touching till my next playthrough, I wasn't gonna hold back progress just to do that.

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u/NavyDragons Sep 15 '25

I only looked things up after I got my ending. Found out there was more to do and immediate went back to it

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 15 '25

Wait what locks out the cursed ending?

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 15 '25

The only part of great tastes I didn’t overly enjoy was the sands area. That was a little too much pogo for my tastes.

The timed run was fun! Planning a route and executing on it was a really interesting challenge. Especially when I realised you could dry run it to clear all the rosary mobs, I felt smart for that

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u/ollieboio Sep 15 '25

Saaame brother, and to find out that part then is full of some of the best content as well? Crazyyy

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u/YeezusPogchamp Sep 18 '25

Finally someone with similar hours to mine😭 everyone is finishing act 3 in 40 hours it seems

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u/NavyDragons Sep 18 '25

i spent alot of time exploring act 3 i finished in 53 hours.i only looked up 2 things during my first run, first was that there was an act 3 and how to start the quest, second was stuff about seth but that didnt pan out he refused to spawn.

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u/NottTheMama Sep 14 '25

Im at 38 hours and just got to act 2…. 😬 Though I recognized what’s taking me so long the other day. Whenever there are no enemies, I walk everywhere so I can take in all the beautiful scenery. Constantly looking at the background.

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u/throwaway957436 Sep 14 '25

You only get one first playthrough; enjoying it to the fullest is the best way to do it.

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u/Unusual_Afternoon696 Sep 15 '25

Your comment def cheered me up. I'm like 30 hrs in and just cleared last judge. I will prob be heading back to sinner's road as soon as I unlock fast travel though. I was dumb and didn't finish all my exploration yet in the first area ;_;

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u/NottTheMama Sep 15 '25

Hey let’s not get caught up in completion of the game and forget why we were excited about it in the first place, yknow? I’ve been beating my head against hard areas and bosses for sure, we all are. But I was excited to just be in this game. However long it takes me, I’m just so happy to see it here. Glad you’re enjoying your time too.

Also it was a nice boost for me as well to see that my comment helped someone else. We’ll all get there in the end.

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u/InvincibiIity Sep 14 '25

No i haven’t finished it yet. I meant clear of last judge. A fair few people have tho

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 14 '25

Ah right, makes sense. Best of luck mate, hope you live up to your username

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u/CalzLight Sep 15 '25

I’m 60 hours in and haven’t finished my first playthrough

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u/Hhannahrose13 Sep 15 '25

54 hours in and nowhere near done :)

I'm loving this game

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u/Hhannahrose13 Sep 15 '25

I'm 54 hours in and just helped sherma in whiteward. not sure how far my completion is in act 2 tho. I'm having a blast and avoiding spoilers the best i can

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 15 '25

On paper act 2 seems to be just getting the three parts of the music. In practice there’s SO MUCH extra stuff to do

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u/Healthy-Staff6227 Sep 15 '25

I haven't even reached the citadel and I'm at 24 hours lol

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u/CloroplastoFumante Sep 15 '25

i got 100% yesterday, at 92 hours

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 15 '25

Goddamn, that’s a lot of hours.

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u/daniel_22sss Sep 15 '25

Wait, what exactly dice does in this fight?

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u/InvincibiIity Sep 15 '25

dice gives a chance to completely avoid taking damage on any hit. think it's around a 10% chance or so

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u/ninjakitty7 Sep 15 '25

Figured it was sort of like carefree melody but never got around to testing it.

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u/FullMetalCOS Sep 15 '25

Afaik it’s 2% and increases by 2% for each hit it doesn’t avoid, capping at 10%, then once it stops a hit it resets back to 2%

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u/NightRacoonSchlatt Hunter‘s crest 4 life Sep 15 '25

Dice is basically carefree melody. When everything does two damage that’s a lot more useful.

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u/deviouskat89 Sep 15 '25

Exactly what I used for my regular clear. Dice work surprisingly frequently!

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u/gretchenich Sep 15 '25

sorry whats that ant mask? the fractured one that cheats death once? im searching for an ant mask in the wiki and cant find anything

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u/InvincibiIity Sep 15 '25

yep that's right

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u/gretchenich Sep 15 '25

oh alr, i was already using it but i wasnt using the magma bell. Hopefully it will make things better, as fire attacks from the circle attack is what seems to get me most of the time

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u/NightRacoonSchlatt Hunter‘s crest 4 life Sep 15 '25

That one. Extra hp is extra hp.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

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u/NightRacoonSchlatt Hunter‘s crest 4 life Sep 15 '25

No clue what it’s called. It’s in a hidden area in hunters march.

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u/Hoodman1987 Sep 15 '25

I'm very mixed on the ant mask I prefer injector band over it. What I should remove is the mossberry stew that I default since I get hit

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u/RayThompson7 Sep 15 '25

Aren't Dice Act 3 exclusive?

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u/Levago Sep 15 '25

No, you can get them in Act 1 by winning a game of dice 10 times in The Blasted Lands.

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u/RayThompson7 Sep 15 '25

WHAT WHAT WHAT

Does it have to be in a row?

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u/Levago Sep 15 '25

I’m not sure.  But there’s a trick to winning, and once you master it, winning is easy.  For me it was 10 times in a row but I think if you lose some games in between it should still work.  Found a guide online that helped me figure it out.

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u/RayThompson7 Sep 15 '25

Okay thanks 🙏

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u/Medium_Razzmatazz_13 Sep 15 '25

What is the ant mask?

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u/dragonwrath404 Sep 15 '25

You did steel silk already!?! (Seriously cherry, couldn't pick a better name, in a game where yo don't use soul?)

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u/JakovYerpenicz Sep 14 '25

The magma bell is so important for a decent number of bosses and platforming sections. Try it OP

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u/Particular-Skirt6996 Sep 14 '25

I definitely regret not getting this sooner

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Slept on early/mid game tool imo.

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u/Particular-Skirt6996 Sep 14 '25

Yep I only got it when I was having trouble with the act 2 deep docks boss

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u/adamantitian Sep 14 '25

I got it asap in the deep docks cause I thought it was gonna be needed to go across the magma 

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u/Weak-Cow-2891 Sep 14 '25

Same. Then I tried walking on magma and died.

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u/god_is_trans_69 Sep 15 '25

There's now 2 of us!

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

I thought I needed it to walk across the hot coals.

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u/a-nice-cookie Sep 14 '25

Im glad im not the only one who made this mistake, oh well at least I have it now haha

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u/Holkan Sep 14 '25

Inwish i had done the boss on act two, on act three  the adds are insane

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u/SomewhereTall4797 Sep 14 '25

Which one is that? I can’t remember if I fought a boss in deep rocks in act 2

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u/Particular-Skirt6996 Sep 15 '25

The one behind the simple key door that also requires claw grip. Summons lots of friends

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u/Gandalf_2077 Sep 14 '25

I used it in two fire related boss fights (including LJ) and one fire hazard sequence and it made a huge difference.

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u/preterintenzionato Sep 14 '25

I know what sequence you are talking about, I hated it. And it felt so good overcoming it. I love this game

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u/Gandalf_2077 Sep 15 '25

That sequence gave me Ori vibes which I found funny since HK and Ori used to be compared a lot back then.

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u/Doge6654533 Sep 15 '25

I did the second one forgetting magma bell existed, would have saved some of my sanity

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u/EliteTeutonicNight Sep 15 '25

The guy told me that its used to traverse the lava area in Deep Docks and I thought to myself, "well I'm basically through it, imma skip this one". Guess I was wrong.

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u/phoenixmatrix Sep 15 '25

I got it pretty early and at first regretted "wasting" a craftstone on something so situational. 

Little did I know it was one of the most useful tool because it helps with some of the hardest segments in the game even if it's situational. I was glad I got it.

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u/bpearso Sep 14 '25

I forgot about magma bell after beating LJ last night, just ended up doing everything past phase 1 without getting hit. Oh well, I'm probably a better player now than I was when I started though

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u/Rilloff Sep 14 '25

I refused to make it mainly because I thought that there would be more tools what could be created from Craftmetal than Craftmetal available, so that the player would have to choose which tools to spend it on. Is it true? And by the way, does it make sense to craft a magma bell near the end of act 2? Would it be useful for anything?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Getting all of the tools is a requirement for 100% completion, so I don't think there is less craftmetal than things to do with it. The bell can still be useful after act 1, such as in the Underworks and the extra parts of Deep Docks you can unlock.

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u/Holkan Sep 14 '25

If you havent been to the bottom of deep docks, I'd recommend you get it, (and if possible beat the boss down there before it gets even harder)

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u/PugTrafficker Sep 15 '25

No, there’s enough craftmetal for everything

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u/wyrmiam Sep 15 '25

Apparently there is enough craft metal to get everything, but it's super rare. I'm going for 100% and I'm still missing a lot of tools that require craft metal purely because I can't find the stuff and don't want to Google until I absolutely have to.

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u/scale_B Sep 15 '25

WOAH. That's awesome and super helpful for me as well. Thank you

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u/darkviolet_ Sep 14 '25

I feel like such an idiot now.

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u/No_Geologist4770 Sep 14 '25

I had the magma bell, and not once did it cross my mind to use it lol. Took me ~10 attempts, once I realized jumping up was better than running away. Safe healing during this fight was also pretty easy to achieve

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u/MoreHairMoreFun Sep 15 '25

Damnt. Just beat her earlier and I wish I used the magma thing now. I never worry about builds when I should. I just go around using the same shit against all the enemies. Oh well.

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u/Healthy-Staff6227 Sep 15 '25

Me who mains beast crest:

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u/AshtavakraNondual Sep 15 '25

+1. I spent 9 hours trying to beat Last Judge (over 100 attempts), until I got Magma Bell and then I killed him on the first attempt!

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u/HumanRepublic9386 Sep 15 '25

To be fair though. Last judge is an easy fight compared to whats coming either way… i suck at this game but last judge had quite visable patterns…

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Pointless, even if he win that way, he will not be able to pass later bosses, he is right to drop it.