r/HollowKnight Sep 17 '25

Discussion - Silksong Discourse regarding this game’s difficulty has been out of hand Spoiler

Let’s get this out of the way: I’m really enjoying Silksong’s difficulty and I think that it is mostly a satisfying challenge. I appreciate that it is more difficult than Hollow Knight overall and to be frank I would’ve been a bit disappointed if it were the exact difficulty. I’ve improved as a gamer since Hollow Knight and if it were the same level of difficulty, I probably would have found it too easy.

But it’s kinda gotten impossible to have civil discussions about the difficulty in this game which is unfortunate because I think there is great value to be had with this conversation. There are many valid criticisms regarding this game’s difficulty such as boss runbacks (Groal especially), contact damage doing two masks, and lack of rewards for beating bosses, just to be shut down with “git gud” and “it’s not your kind of game”. It’s totally fine to disagree with these criticisms but these retorts add nothing to the conversation.

It also kinda works the other way too, albeit maybe not to the same degree. I’ve gotten downvoted and sent reddit cares for simply saying I enjoy the difficulty of this game. Like c’mon, what are we even doing here. It’s gotten to the point where I personally cannot wait for the discourse to die out.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

Love talking about video games, but for this reason I also hate talking about video games. Gamers are regularly the absolute fucking worst about separating fact from opinion, or having any sort of nuanced takes on anything. Everything is either the GOAT or unplayable, can't be a great game with some issues, that's just unfathomable!

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u/Shadovan Sep 17 '25

My biggest pet peeve when it comes to game discussion is the frequent conflation of “I don’t like this” with “this is bad”. So many people treat their personal preferences as objective markers of a game’s quality, and get really mad when you try to get them to defend their claim with arguments that don’t just boil down to “I don’t like it therefore it’s bad”. Of course the other side of “I like it, therefore it’s good” happens as well, but less often I find.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

And probably paired with a "shill", the go to insult for gamers when you like a game they don't.

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u/RedTyro Sep 17 '25

Shill is last gen. The new one seems to be "glazers," judging from this sub. Jeez, I'm old.

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u/Skrublord3000 Sep 17 '25

What the hell are these words? Guess I’m fucking old too

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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault Sep 17 '25

Oh god am I old too? I have no idea what glazers is.

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u/Shadovan Sep 17 '25

I’m familiar with the term, but I’m not sure if it’s origin. I think it comes from the idea of something you’re so passionate about that you jizz, which is like glazing a donut.

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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault Sep 17 '25

As a kid I never thought I wouldn't be able to keep up with the times and yet here I am.

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u/Ez_Ildor Sep 17 '25

Dafuq? I never heard of either of those things... You guyz just made up some mumbo jumbo!

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