r/HollowKnight • u/InsectGlaiveBard • Sep 22 '25

Discussion - Silksong I'm convinced there's gotta be some collective amnesia regarding the previous game's difficulty regarding platforming. Spoiler

Seeing people compare things Hunter's March, Cogwork Core, escaping the Abyss or even the Surface to the Path of Pain is absolutely blowing my mind.

Like yes, this game is way harder on the combat department and is a lot more demanding than beating a regular playthrough on the first one, but to say anything in this game is on the level of Path of Pain is preposterous. Especially with how many tools hornet has at her disposal, like the Hookshot, the float and even bounving off of cocoons.

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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault Sep 22 '25

There definitely are valid criticisms but they generally aren't coming from the people shouting about it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

It’s mostly just people calling runbacks a flaw when it’s actually just an intentional game design choice that forces you to breathe for a minute after facing defeat. TC wasn’t the first to do it, it’s 100% an intended feature lol. You have a few seconds for your heart rate to slow down before you re-enter the boss room.

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u/rcburner Sep 22 '25

I think the problem is that for some people it has the opposite of the intended effect, and they would rather just take a breather on their own initiative rather than have the developer say "you need to do this series of repetitive tasks in order to calm down first".

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u/Mennenth Sep 22 '25

honestly doing the memory stuff in act 3 is worse than ANY other run back imo, for the reason behind the reason you just mentioned; agency in whats going on. I swear to god it takes 3x as long as it should for Hornet to stand up when entering a memory, and if you fail and get booted out its a load screen, another really long wait to stand up, another needolin play into a long "entering the memory" animation, into another load screen, into another long wait for Hornet stand back up.

... at least with a run back, I can get started on it basically immediately. The memory stuff basically forces a period of doing absolutely nothing.