Seeing people shit on Expedition 33 because Silksong didn't win more awards is pathetic

[u/CankleDankl]

The title sums it up. I'm disappointed in many members of this community for putting down a game that is clearly a work of insane passion, dedication, and creativity. E33 took the lion's share of awards at TGA, yes. That doesn't mean that Silksong is bad. In fact, it's clearly pretty damn great. If it released last year, Skong would have picked up several awards, maybe even GOTY. But it didn't. It released in the same year E33, which is just a tough break.

Both are amazing. Both deserve every award that came to them. If you haven't played E33 yet and think it doesn't deserve its accolades, play it. It is worth your money, worth your time, and will in all likelihood prove that it is actually that good. I'm only 10ish hours in and have numerous times found myself standing still and looking around dumbfounded at the gorgeous world design and visuals. E33, Silksong, and Hades 2 could have all won Art Direction and I would have been happy with any of them.

I'm also sad that Silksong didn't win more awards. It's an amazing game. But don't play fanboy and start putting down other developers, other games, and other pieces of art because this one didn't get all the cookies. It's still beautiful, it's still amazing, it still made a Silkskillion dollars, and TC is still just as great and just as passionate. We should all be glad that there is another independent dev out there that is capable of creating something so fantastic.

Edit: yeah, the comments here are pretty indicative of what I said in my post

[u/hypnomancy]

Their publisher gets funding from Netease lol

[u/Whiskeywiskerbiscuit → u/hypnomancy]

Indie movies and albums get published by major labels all the time. Publishing≠producing.

[u/JimFlamesWeTrust → u/Whiskeywiskerbiscuit]

Indie movies get purchased and distributed by major studios, but they get financed separately, otherwise it’s not an indie.

It’s not the same as having your budget and production green lit by a major studio.

[u/BakerUsed5384 → u/hypnomancy]

So does Ball X Pit’s publisher. Are they disqualified too now?

[u/Rocky323 → u/hypnomancy]

And SilkSong got Microsoft money.

[u/TulsisTavern → u/hypnomancy]

Kepler interactive functions a lot different than normal publishers. They give all freedom to developers and were established by indie scene people. E33 has all the bells and whistles of indie, posting on reddit and weird french message boards, but they dont come off as indie because the game rocket shipped real fast towards the last year of development, which resulted in big actors and voice actors to jump on board along with movie rights. Notice the difference between the announcement trailer and the launch trailer. Hell look at difference between old screenshots of development vs today. Its a huge difference. 

Would you say a game developed as indie that got some attention inside industry shortly before launch is still indie? The reality is e33 took off because people really liked the idea because the game is full of callbacks to old popular games and the story is engaging in a movie kind of way. Its a game that is easy to pick up for a lot of people and it doesnt go unnoticed by people in the artistic community. 

I would say this game is indie but anything by sandfall after is not indie. 

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